[Highlights] Rochard Dolan and Jeremy Corbell from TOEnanza

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      "text": " These clips feature George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Richard Dolan, and Matt O'Dowd from PBS Space Time."
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      "text": " They're highlights from the over eight hour live stream of Tonanza for those who aren't interested in two, four, five, six hour or even in this case, eight hour long podcasts. We'll try to release weekly highlights of roughly one hour in length or less exclusively to the audio channel here at the end of the week. Enjoy. So what's going on in twenty twenty three, Jeremy and George? What's going on? What are you looking forward to?"
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      "text": " I'm looking forward to it. George and I have some stuff coming out. A lot of stuff we've covered that we're going to be able to reveal a lot more information on direct witness testimony. Just you're going to hear from people that you wouldn't expect you'd be able to hear from stuff George and I have talked about. But now you get to hear directly from those individuals. So I know in January that the UFO subject is going to blow up again because new information will be coming to light."
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      "text": " This was an exciting year, the end of the year, the signing of the NDAA and what that means moving forward. I mean, it's great. In a sense, it's sort of, to coin the old cliche, it's sort of the end of the beginning, not the beginning of the end, because we're finally as a society moving toward trying to figure out are these real and are genuinely asking the question. And of course, Kurt, as you have learned, the answer is yes, they are real. And now maybe in the years to come,"
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      "text": " Arrow, NASA, various scientific organizations that are now openly interested in the topic can address the bigger questions, the really important ones. Where are they from? Why are they here? Who are they? What's their interest in us? You know, once we get beyond the obvious question that our society has struggled with for 75 years, then we can start digging into the good stuff. And the tools are now in place to do that. Jeremy and I"
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      "text": " are aware of some of these whistleblowers who've been standing by ready to chime in and tell Congress and others what they know. And in fact, we know that some of them have already done so. And when this comes out, assuming it comes out, man, it's going to be an explosion. So Kurt, what George is talking about is what the whistleblower protections laws are being implemented for."
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      "text": " We're talking about reverse engineering UFOs. We're talking about our government physically reverse engineering physical hardware that they suspect is from another world. So we're talking about programs that are actively reverse engineering actively exploiting these non terrestrial technologies. That's the claim."
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      "text": " And he's also talking about the idea that people have already utilized some of these internal mechanisms to establish where the hardware is. So this is something we have knowledge of and we're hoping that this gets out to the public because it is happening. This education is being given on the inside."
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      "text": " Expand on that point where the hardware is. Expand on that. What do you mean? I'm not gonna expand on that right this second, but this is something that's being told, you know, within Congress, within the Senate Intelligence Committee, within whistleblowers coming forward, you know, under IG investigations. They're looking into this. This is something that George and I know for sure is happening to people involved, all the mechanics of it. And we hope it becomes public through the right channels. But I'm just"
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      "text": " It's important for people to know it's happening. This is not something theoretical. It's happening. I'll tell you, Kurt, my first foray into this idea, the preposterous idea that we've got craft and materials from some other world, some other intelligence, was 33 years ago with Bob Lazar. And I know a lot of your listeners will have problems with Lazar's story. I don't care anymore. I don't care."
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      "text": " But at the time that I proposed it and presented that information in a news series, it was ridiculous even among a lot of UFO folks. Not so ridiculous anymore because what Jeremy and I have reported over the last couple of years is there were legacy UFO programs that have not been made public. There were efforts to take these materials"
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      "text": " exotic materials of unknown origin, put them in the hands of aerospace companies, the big players, and try to figure out how they work. And when Bob Lazar had that story a long time ago, you know, people tisk-tisked and denied it and ridiculed it. Now not so much because some of these whistleblowers we're talking about"
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      "text": " or appearing before Congress now have already given statements, are there to tell them about the legacy programs, that they are real, that there are these exotic materials, that reverse engineering programs have been underway. The big question remaining is, will the public get to know about this? And can those materials be retrieved? If you hand them over to, say, a Lockheed or a Northrop or a company like that,"
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      "text": " And they verified some of that testimony we know."
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      "text": " Great. Just so you know, there are a couple of people in the waiting room. I just want you all to know that I see you. Thank you. Please hang on for a couple more moments. Okay. So can you tell me, Jeremy and George, whoever wants to chime in, what is the significance of this whistleblowers act specifically for people who don't know what the legislation is? What is it? When does it come into effect? And why is it, is it groundbreaking? Do we feel like, do you think that this is just, well,"
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      "text": " Go ahead, Jeremy. Yeah, I think we both have a different perspective on it but I think that we're in agreement"
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      "text": " that it is a huge invitation. It's an invitation and not only an invitation. I mean, they're telling you that you need to tell if there were illegal UFO programs being done. So this is kind of like a duty. So will people come forward? Let's pretend like what Harry Reid said, that's from Lockheed. Will people come forward saying, I worked on reverse engineering of non-terrestrial technologies. Well, you have to be motivated to do so. But now they're saying,"
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      "text": " You need to come forward. So I think this is a this is a big deal. It's protections. This is on the lines of like"
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      "text": " the church committee or whatever they called it when they were discovering all these things the CIA was doing back, you know, on American citizens. This is that big. This is big enough that people have already come forward. Now, this is in the mechanisms of government that are going to keep it within the intelligence communities. But some people are going to come forward publicly. And we know this for sure. So I think this is a huge deal. We've never seen this kind of thing for the UFO topic, this type of acknowledgement"
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      "text": " And I think someone like George, who's been seeing this for 35 years or however many years now, this is unprecedented. So I'm an optimist. I'm super excited. I think, you know, we're kicking the doors down, but"
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      "text": " I am the pessimist. I'm the glasses half empty. If there is a way to bury this, if there is a way to keep a secret, they'll find it. And we're already seeing some of that kind of pushback, Kurt. You saw this recent Wall Street Journal article. There was a New York Times pre-bunking piece that came out in advance of the report, which wasn't even written at the time that said, oh, yeah, this is all explainable. That's exactly what I've expected for a long time. And I think we're going to see more of it. The closer Congress and the public get to answers,"
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      "text": " The closer we get to actually seeing or learning about the goodies, the metamaterials, pieces of scrap metal of unknown origin, craft, maybe bodies, the harder the pushback is going to be. If I were Lockheed and I had this stuff, I wouldn't give it back to us. What you're seeing is a significant pushback already by the Department of Defense. At the same time, they're speaking out of this side of their mouth saying, oh, yeah, we're all about transparency."
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      "text": " Behind the scenes they're feeding this disinformation to people like that reporter the new york times who kind of try to dismiss it i will bet you could you have had pushback yourself. For the fact that you even dare to tackle this topic in a very curious way that you would even dare ask the questions i'm sure your colleagues have given you crap about it and there's gonna be a lot more that the closer we get to the goodie so if they can find a way to bury it and hide it they'll continue to do that you look at the us air force."
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      "text": " They have more information on the subject matter than anyone and they're nowhere, they don't have a seat at the table. They're not showing up giving statements, they're not making press releases, they haven't shown up at any of the hearings. Where are they? They're not going to give it up very easily so I'll believe it when I see it. I'm hopeful in a sense but I'll believe it when I see it. Yet people continuously and with increased frequency come forward to George and me"
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      "text": " and they provide information and data and footage and images. And, you know, we, I've been kicked around people saying, Oh, you said, you know, you're going to release more. It's been so long. I'm on cosmic time. Oh yeah. We're just starting. So starting in January of 2023, providing more information. A couple of days, a couple of days from now. Yeah, well, that's right. I'll say January, you know, we're going to start, you know, providing information that we've thoroughly vetted."
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      "text": " And where should they go? Where should the audience go to find this information out? Is there a website? Is there a Twitter? Is there a YouTube? Right now, just go to our social media, mine and George's social media. There's going to be a location for that, you know, that'll be a little bit better. But right now, I can write it in the chat and pin it and also put it in the comments. Sure. So I'm at Jeremy Corbell and like George on Twitter is G underscore nap."
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      "text": " I would send people to mysterywire.com. That is still an active website. It's a repository of all the stories that I've put together for 30 plus years, including interviews. Yesterday marked the one year anniversary since the death of Harry Reid. Five years ago this month, he got things started by talking to the New York Times about"
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      "text": " What a program that the time they called a tip. There's still a lot of misinformation out there. A lot of things that have been made murky, I think, on purpose. But all those interviews that we did with Harry Reid, with Lou Elizondo, with other key players in this was all still on mysterywire.com. I would add this. We did a story. If people are looking at big events of 2022, we did a story about a defense contractor named Radiance Technologies."
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      "text": " They're located in Huntsville, Alabama. They put out news releases about the hiring of two people. One was a guy named Jay Stratton, who had been with the Office of Naval Intelligence and DIA. The other was Dr. Travis Taylor, whom we know as a UFO type scientist on the History Channel and Ancient Aliens and The Secret of Skinwalk Ranch. In their release, Radiance Technologies bragged about these two guys for their UFO work."
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      "text": " Jay Stratton had been the head of the UAP Task Force. He'd been part of ATIP and OSAP as well. And when they put out a release about his hiring, they bragged about it. I think that is a major step for private contractors, defense contractors, to go ahead and say, yeah, we're interested in this. In fact, not only are we interested in it, we'd like to get some contracts for it. Big step for industry to make that. And I just wanted to mention that's a pretty good story that I think probably has fallen through the cracks."
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      "text": " So a question that's come up several times on today's show is what story from 2022 ignites you the most? Now I'm going to rephrase that for you all. Which story from 2022 regarding this topic is most relevant to something that you can't reveal now for whatever reason for later so that if I want to put some pieces together I can?"
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      "text": " If you use that code, you'll get two years worth of blades for free. Just make sure to add them to the cart. Plus 100 free blades when you head to H E N S O N S H A V I N G dot com slash everything and use the code everything. Yeah, I mean, I'd say say they're everything George and I have reported on. We've dug really deep and we've really vetted people and now we're at a place where we can bring stuff forward. So I think"
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      "text": " the 2019 swarms over USS Omaha, USS Russell, actually 10 Navy warships. We initially reported on that, like what our government said, we obtained and released information that was confined within classified files originally, but we were able to get out the unclassified parts. And that story is going to open up. There's been a lot of attempts at debunking it, talking about,"
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      "text": " how there's red, green a you haven't heard nothing great. I think that that"
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      "text": " And I think the 2019 swarms, it's just one of many, by the way, that we've looked into, but it's one we could provide corroborative video evidence on. I think overall that story is a great place to start. We're going to learn a lot more about that. And I'd even say the Bob Lazar story, everything Bob said to George in 1989, we are looking at it through a different lens now. And I think there's more to tell."
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      "text": " I would say something more that's coming is about OSAP. You'll recall, Kurt, the congressional hearing, first public hearing before Congress on the UFO UAP topic in 54 years, and the Defense Department was asked"
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      "text": " Are there any programs that existed in between Blue Book and ATIP? And they said, no, sorry, nothing. Well, that is absolutely not true. And a year ago, we put out a book called Skinwalkers at the Pentagon that had details about the OSAP program. It was a predecessor to ATIP. It's the one that got $22 million that went to Robert Bigelow's Bass organization. They created the largest UFO database in the history of the world, more than 200,000 cases."
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      "text": " Public hasn't seen congress hasn't seen it but i can tell you that in the year since that book came out there's a lot more information that's come our way interviews with key players that we're gonna be making public in twenty twenty three and i think i think it will blow it wide open i hope."
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      "text": " Agreed. Yeah. And I think also Kurt, so people right now it's kind of neat because we're, I'm just kind of celebrating the fact that we have a few movies out and they've done well and I'm trying to kind of get people to all catch up and watch them. So on extraordinary beliefs for free, you can watch all three of my initial movies. So all three of these are now free and go check them out. This is a good time to get caught up for what you're going to be learning starting January."
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      "text": " So I know Jeremy and George that you've got to get going soon. If you want, you can hang out. You're more than welcome to get some popcorn, answer questions. But if you have to get going now, then I'm just going to introduce the next guests. Do you have to get going now? I have to go. Hi, guests. How you doing? I'll be listening."
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      "text": " We'll be listening. You guys have a great New Year's, everybody, and I'm real excited for the next year. I'm extremely grateful for you all taking some time out on this day. Lily and Greg, Jesse, George, and Jeremy. So thank you all for coming out, and Jeremy and George, we will have a conversation whenever you'd like to come back on tour. You're obviously both welcome, and we can have a much longer conversation. This is rushed like mad. Keep up the great work, Kurt, and I'll be listening. Thank you, man. That's incredibly kind. Thank you."
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      "text": " So Rich, what are you looking forward to in 2023? I'm building a little bunker, digging a deep hole. I'm just going to hide as deep as far as I can. But when I'm not doing that, I'll still be looking at the UFO subject. I'll still be looking at the dissolution of global geopolitics and the world around us and seeing how long we can hang on before things get really crazy. We think they're crazy now. I think it's going to be a lot more ahead in 2023."
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      "text": " I don't think there's going to be a respite from the insanity. And I wanted to tell the audience where they could find more out about you or what you have going on next. And I was supposed to take that link. I don't know if I did. It's fine. Don't worry about it. I had a new book that I just did a new edition of one of my books, but I have it here. Can I show it on this screen here? My latest UFOs for the 21st century mind."
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      "text": " The old edition had a bit of a Monty Python look. This is actually a little more for the 21st century. This is Richard Dolan's work. I'm pinning it. So people who would like to search this and buy it or at least check it out. Here is the title. And again, it'll be in the description once this finally goes. Thank you. Thank you. It's I wrote quite a bit more to this. So it's an updated version of a book that I wrote almost a decade ago and just wanted to bring the UFO story up today to the end of 2022, which I just did."
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      "text": " So I was happy about that. But I keep myself busy with all kinds of analysis of the UFO situation. Is there going to be a disclosure in the next year or two or not? We're going to progress. We're going to regress. And I have conversations with people pretty much every day about that matter. It just never stops. I think we're in a really, you know, I think when we were all of us were little, I don't think any of us had an idea"
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      "text": " of just how fast-paced the world was going to become. It's always been fast, but my goodness, it's just gone into high gear. So I'm definitely going to be looking forward to monitoring and commenting on everything that happens in my little area for the coming year, that's for sure. And your YouTube channel is Richard Dolan. You just searched that, correct? Richard Dolan Intelligent Disclosure, yeah. It's the name of one of my programs."
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      "text": " And I do have a website, I have a member's website, richardolanmembers.com, where I do a lot of work there as well for a really cool community of people. So that is what I do, yeah. Okay, you're staying on. You're not getting up that easy. Not that easily. I want to let in Dr. Brian Keating, as well as one of the runner-ups for the contest. His name is Brad from Sonic Gravity. Hello, Dr. Brian Keating, the legend."
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      "text": " The legend is here. And Brad, I've heard so much about you, so you're a legend as well, at least to myself. We're going to stick with Brian Keating's intro first. So Brian. Brian is a... I don't know how you do it, man. Not only if you just read Wikipedia as to your accolades and your current status, so you're not only a professor, you're a particular kind of professor, the chancellor chair of so-and-so. You're going to say it much better than I can. I don't recall it."
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      "text": " Six adjectives before your name, usually. And then you have a podcast. And then not only that, but you put out way more content than myself, which I'm desirous of. Yeah, extremely desirous of. You also have kids. You don't just have one kid, which is more than enough. You have five kids."
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      "text": " And then I think there's something else you're doing, which I think you're also working with, or at least you used to work on the Galileo project. And there's probably other projects and you have PhD students and geez, man. Holy moly. Like I work like a dog, right? And I work like a dog and probably get like 10% as 50% as at most as much as you. So welcome Dr. Brian Keaton. So the podcast is Dr. Brian Keaton podcast into the impossible. Thank you guys. Thank you, Kurt. It's a pleasure and honor to be here. You're one of my"
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      "text": " early inspirations and my continuing. I would say you're you're sort of a mentor to me, Kurt. You've done a lot. You've inspired so many millions of people around the world. And, you know, I'm just trying to grow a quality audience like you've done and doing so in the in the kind of nooks and crannies. As you mentioned, you know, I have a lot of obligations and responsibilities at the university. The thing I'm most looking forward to outside of my family and my"
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      "text": " home life and my friends is to grow and develop the Simon's Observatory, which is the world's highest operating astronomical observatory. It's actually the highest construction project in the world. It's at 5200 meters above sea level in the Atacama Desert. And I was just there a couple of weeks ago, spent about a week there, and it's paradise for nerds. When you're up there,"
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      "text": " Thank you, Kurt's Patreon, which he funnels to me. No, no, he doesn't do that. I do support Kurt. So I want to ask you all out there if you can give Kurt a little bit of feedback. And the way that humans have done this, since the Phoenicians invented the concept of fungibility and coinage and money, is to become a patron of Kurt Geimungel, who has promised"
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      "text": " And I have it as proof. He's going to visit me in Southern California, where I am not right now. I'm in an undisclosed subterranean bunker where I'm hoping to go skiing with some of my kids. But please support Kurt. He needs to make a proper introduction, come and do a live podcast in my new studio at UC San Diego, where I am the Chancellor's Distinguished Professor of Physics. And we're going to do a video together"
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      "text": " And I've already started doing some work. So it's going to be epic in the studio, in the laboratory. Okay. All right. I will go for eight hours. So I'll record one with you. You record one with me. And by the way, don't just support me, support Brian, support Rich, support Brad, who is about to be introduced. Brad, please introduce yourself if you don't mind. And I want to just thank you for submitting, not only submitting, but I want to thank you for producing a quality video."
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      "text": " Hey, thanks. You say quality. I know you're defining that to him very loosely because I mean, my tech is really low. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, but no, I just want to say Kurt. Well, I'm a vet. I'm an engineer and a lawyer. And when the Navy said that UFOs are real, just my brain started spinning and I just got really focused on how could it possibly happen?"
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      "text": " Essentially, you know, if you shake the left hand electron, the left hand is holding onto the Higgs field. Of course, I have a non-consensus theory that the Higgs field is negative energy density, gravity. And just a moment, Brad, because if people aren't following this, I want to leave a link to your work. So a link will be imminent and then I'm going to pin it. That's just for people who are wondering what the heck is happening. So please continue."
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      "text": " Yeah, so if you can shake 246 gig electron volts into that left-handed electron that you caught in your Faraday disk magnetic field. So you can see behind me there's the oscilloscope, it's dual channel. It has one polarizing field and then it has a harmonic one that bounces the field. I run it through a car stereo to jack up the wattage. But essentially it shakes the, hopefully, I mean I'm hoping that what I've hit is a resonant frequency that"
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      "text": " You guys are all great. I mean, I'm crying right now inside and I screenshotted it so I can like show my family that I was next to famous people."
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      "text": " But I think space-time blows out of black holes, which is why the universe expands. And the further you look out, I'm so pumped to just even be in your guys' aura. Thank you so much. But yeah, I do it in my free time. I have a regular day job and everything. I only have four kids, though, so I'm quite disengaged. Well, Brad? Brad? So, firstly,"
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      "text": " Thank you for your comments about that. That's incredibly kind. And I'm Richard and Brian, and I'm sure we're all like super flattered by that. So thank you. And I do have to let you go now, only out of fairness to everyone else who is honorably mentioned. I only gave him about a couple of minutes. So I'm going to let you go, and it'll be Brian and Richie. But thank you, and we'll speak again, okay? Sure. It was a pleasure. For people who are interested, again, I will leave the link right"
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      "text": " So to hear the treatment of Jay and how much has changed just in the last few months is really a breath of fresh air. So I'm looking forward to discoveries. I had an epic tweet thread I posted yesterday, predictions for 2023 in science, also the UFO project. I'm very good friends with the NASA UAP study director. Doesn't give me any special favors. Dr. David Spergel, who's been a two-time guest on my podcast."
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      "text": " I'll answer that but I just want to say this is the first time I've heard Brian Keating speak and I kind of like the political analysis. I agree with Musk and Twitter and pretty much I think everything else you said Brian. I'm looking forward to seeing how that NASA UFO UAP study goes. I have a little bit less confidence maybe than you do that will be according to what I think it really ought to be. But that's just based on NASA's long long history of UFO obfuscation and actual dishonesty."
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      "text": " that they've had and a lack of really good work done on it. But maybe this will be different and I'm looking at that carefully and critically as well. As far as your question Kurt, well I think the conversation we're having on UAP or UFOs in our society, it's much, much better than it's been five years ago and long before that where it was utterly impossible to have an adult"
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      "text": " People see these things all the time and I would like to know who the heck is behind them. What are they doing? What's the mission? Are these aliens or not? I don't think they're black budget. So there's a lot of progress that we need to be making on the UFO matter. What can people do? Well, this is a subject with a steep learning curve. I've learned that. 25 years ago, I thought I'll take two, three months out of my life and get up to speed on it. Right. And that was a long, long time ago."
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      "text": " So it takes a long while to become what I would say is genuinely sophisticated in one's understanding of the subject. It's been laughed at for years and decades. And I think, and I don't know you, Brian, so I would never make an assumption, but I do find that many, many highly intelligent people with great education underestimate this subject. And they think that they've got it when in fact they're at the bottom of the mountain. So there's a long way to go."
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      "text": " I agree, Richard. I think there's a lot of hubris, right? There's the kind of camp, the Elon Musk camp, that we've had great cameras for decades and they've been improving and the quality of UFO sightings has got, you know, it's easy to dismiss. And Elon's a brilliant man. I hope to have him on my podcast at some point. There's actually an abundance of excellent video and photographic evidence that is out there that just gets ignored quite a bit."
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      "text": " So what I like to do is think about it as an astronomer. That's what I'm trained as. I do build instrumentation. I like to think of the physics implications. And, you know, for a long time, I simply applied Pascal's Wager to this whole problem. If it is real, the penalty for not believing it is infinite almost, right? We could lose out on four centuries of physics progress."
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      "text": " Let's not forget all the things we've learned about just from the consideration of the existence of extraterrestrial life. We've learned about material science. We've learned about imaging."
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      "text": " We've learned about the propulsion system. And then I'm also a pilot. I fly little planes around here in California. And one of the things that's interest to me, and I know of interest to NASA outside of the alien issue, is how could these objects be threats? How could they interfere with the safety of the public? And I think that's actually been downplayed. I mean, Kurt and I hosted Tom DeLong, and people are still talking about that. That's probably my most popular video in the last couple of years. And that video, people are making fun of it now."
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      "text": " On the other hand, I also, I don't shy away from upgrading, you know, the believers, the so-called, you know, I want to believe type folks. I say, look, I asked Tom this point blank. I said,"
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      "text": " You claim you have evidence. Let's talk about the evidence. Where is it? How did you get it? How did you come to it? Can we test it? Can we subject it in my laboratory? Well, we could do some of those things, but we lost track of it. We don't have provenance. At a certain point, Richard, you scientifically minded people, and like you and me, we would say, look, at a certain point, that evidence doesn't fully rise to the point of scientific"
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      "text": " In other words, it may be evidence as eyewitness evidences. I mean, I don't use eyewitness evidence in cosmology because there were no eyewitnesses to the big bang. But I think we have to be open and not have that hubris that you're speaking about. On the other hand, we can't also say that because I want to believe something that I'm almost going to be as accepting of technology and claims and visitations and sightings and so forth,"
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      "text": " and kind of not use our scientific training. I don't know if you'd agree with that. I use my historical training. So I'm not a scientifically trained man. I'm a historian. And so what I've been interested in doing is trying to figure out a historical puzzle, which is why have leading directors of the Central Intelligence Agency, four-star generals, three-star generals of the US and elsewhere,"
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      "text": " taken this problem so seriously and why has there been so much obfuscation and secrecy around it? That's undeniable fact. And then furthermore, what could be the meaning behind the many hundreds, I would say thousands of declassified military reports that describe rather dramatic encounters with UFOs? So that's the situation that I'm interested in. So rather than explaining it scientifically, it's trying to understand it historically,"
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      "text": " and understand why it was taken seriously by some of the most brilliant responsible national security people in our lifetime. What do you think, Richard? Yeah, I'm sorry. No, I'm just going to ask Richard and you two. Yeah, I just want to ask Richard and you, Kurt. One of the things I've been thinking about is sort of the analog of a Turing test, but for classifying, you know, sightings, encounters or whatever."
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      "text": " And this is something people can really latch on to and they can participate on. In fact, before I joined the show, I had to prove that I was a human being via a reCAPTCHA type system, right? And so Richard and Kurt, I wonder, could we sort of crowdsource these things in kind of the citizen science brigade and call for that?"
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      "text": " In addition to professional scientists like myself actually working on it, Avi Loeb, Gary Nolan, you know, et cetera, working on this phenomenon, but like have a recapture, you know, how can we classify things just at the data level? Is that even possible as a way to engage citizen scientists? There are ways to do this. Absolutely. There are projects going on right now and I wish I could remember the German professor's name who's doing this. I was just chatting about him the other day who has"
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      "text": " a proof of concept that he's working on, essentially having cameras with AI algorithms to identify conventional objects, but to have the cameras dedicated in a portion of the sky so that it would capture, increasingly would capture unknown objects. I think there's all kinds of projects like that which make sense and which are feasible and that could have results."
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      "text": " I think there's a lot of smart people out there with all kinds of ideas. You could try to capture objects and other elements of the electromagnetic spectrum, whether it's IR or anything else. That's one thing. The real meat and potatoes comes down to whether or not we can actually unlock the secrecy. I'm a firm believer that there's been a long-standing cover-up, conspiracy, you want to call it, in which ET Tech has been acquired. I'll just add."
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      "text": " I don't know much more time I have here, but I think that our species, we've existed as homo sapiens for about 300,000 years, less estimate from paleoanthropologists, and only in the last generation or so have we been, maybe let's be generous and say the last century, have we really had a truly modern society."
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      "text": " Up until then, we were just horses pulling wooden carts and not even that. So we're in a place right now that if there's anyone out there who has the ability to watch us, I would be quite sure that they will. They're sure as heck going to want to watch us right now because we're about to leap right into their world. We're on the cusp of very strong AI, quantum computing, genetic modification, the whole thing. I mean, we're reinventing our species. We're moving into a new phase of human existence."
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      "text": " The angels were chiming in there. Anyway, so I think we're an object of, probably we brought the whole neighborhood in to check us out at this particular time. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I want to introduce Matt O'Dowd, who is the host of PBS Space Time, a professor of physics as well as"
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      "text": " It is a pleasure to be here again. I feel like I'm home."
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      "text": " I think the first podcast I had in this setup was over here and you were speaking to me. It's nice to have you back on. I'm not sure if you've ever met Brian or Richard. Brian and I go way back. Hey Brian, it's good to see you again. Hi Matt. Happy New Year. You too. Richard Dolan is a historian and focuses on the UFO phenomenon, but I'm sure I'm not even giving the proper introduction, so please"
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      "text": " Fill in the gaps, Richard. And Matt, I just give an introduction. Matt's a professor of physics who has a wonderful YouTube channel called PBS Space Time. Hi, Richard. Good to meet you. Nice seeing you here, Matt. What are we talking about? Her favorite subject, Toronto Blue Jays. We're talking about Blue Jays. Talking about baseball."
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      "text": " So, Brian, are you able to stay for a bit longer or you have to get going? Yeah, yeah, I can stay until I get hit in the head with an ice snowball. Great, great. Yeah, a couple more minutes. So Richard, so we're going to start taking some questions from the audience. And well, we should have been doing that the whole time. There are many questions already, but I'm saying that right now. So please, because the rest are scrolled far up, I can't find them."
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      "text": " I'm a very strong student of ancient history and prehistory. It's a big interest of mine and also the origin of myths in our world. And whereas I do think that there's reason to think that we've been monitored by, let's call them others for a long time, I think I've characterized it as a fairly low level thing. I think it's totally different than what we're dealing with now in the 20th and 21st centuries."
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      "text": " Matt, have you been asked publicly about your opinions on the UFO phenomenon? Not publicly, or not publicly loudly. I'm sure there have been some YouTube comments, but are you saying that because you're about to ask me or preparing me? So, you know, those fighter pilots are"
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      "text": " extremely highly trained, rational human beings. And they saw some shit, and we don't know what it is. And apparently the Air Force doesn't know what it is. So I think they verified flying objects that have not been identified. So the question is, what are they?"
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      "text": " within the US military, you find there's always factions that were convinced that this was an extraterrestrial or as they would say interplanetary phenomenon. That was always a very significant group of people. And how deep does it go is a real question. So no, I think it's actually quite I mean, I think about Occam's razor quite a bit and I hear that sound."
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      "text": " I haven't done my due diligence on this particular topic. There is, however, a great video by Joe Scott. I don't know if you guys know Joe Scott. He has a science physics YouTube channel also, and he did what I thought sounded like a compelling dissection of the UFO report."
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      "text": " I got the sense that it was plausible, that it was a light phenomenon, as opposed to being actual physical matter travelling at that speed. But like I said, you've clearly read and researched far more than I have, so I don't want to pretend like I know. But I would recommend that video and be curious. Which report was he commenting on?"
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      "text": " So a question that I get asked plenty and I'm curious to know, Matt, Brian, and also Richard, your response to is how can one scientifically test this phenomenon given that it's unrepeatable"
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      "text": " So what would be the best way? One way is to just reject the premise and say, you know, it is repeatable and then here's some way. But well, what would Brian? Yeah, well, I yeah, just I did did ask Avi Loeb this very question multiple times, and I've never gotten a satisfactory answer. So he claims that Oumuamua, of course, interstellar object prepared by extraterrestrial intelligence, some star system that we can reconcile with."
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      "text": " because of the difficulty in orbital mechanics and reconstructing it, we just do know that its velocity is consistent with origin or coming from an extrasolar location. So I said, Avi, look, you know, if I had access to a billionaire the way that you have access to a billionaire, instead of slingshotting, you know, a bunch of iPhone cameras to Proxima Centauri B, I would actually redirect them and send all my energy to go after Oumuamua."
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      "text": " Because he's convinced that you know over 90% which probably he's actually going through the math. He's actually a 90% chance, you know, I flipped a dozen coins and you know, he really has gone through the math and Scribes a very high much greater than even odds to this objects extraterrestrial origin and And I said, well, why don't you convince?"
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      "text": " Yuri Milner to give you $10 million to immediately go after Oumuamua while it's still in the heliotrope pause and it's still within our solar system's nearest boundaries. And it's not so far out as going to four light years away as it would be for Project Starshot. I said, no, no, no, no."
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      "text": " characteristic, you know, chastising voice. Now with Vera Rubin, we're going to discover the Vera Rubin Observatory, which is the largest kind of, it used to be called the LSST, large synaptic survey telescope in Chile. It's a eight meter class telescope and we'll be using parts of its data and they'll be using some of our data from the Simons Observatory down in Chile as well to look for Planet Nine, which is a totally other"
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      "text": " side project of ours on the Simons Observatory in addition to looking for inflationary gravitational waves. Anyway, he said, no, we're going to be basically filthy. The sky is going to be blotted out by how many discoveries of these extra solar objects we can make. But I said, do you still, do you have a plan? Do you have confidence? This thing could not be repeatable, as you said, Kurt."
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      "text": " Why not take your chance? I mean, the number of like supernovae is, we're overdue for about four supernovae, right, Matt? I mean, in our galaxy, we should have had about, you know, a supernova per century. Last major one was in, you know, 1594. Kepler observed it. So, fortunately, they don't stack up. Yes. What do you think, Matt?"
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      "text": " Unfortunately, they don't stack up. I don't know. Do I need to adjust my audio? No, no, no. What do you mean? That they don't just come? Oh, I mean, if you're over two people, they don't line up and all go at once if they're late. I see. OK. So in other words, don't wait for the next one to come around because your math predicts that it should. Go after the one, the bird in the hand. And he's been kind of dismissive of that. I sort of would say, no, if this is not repeatable, we have to"
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      "text": " make every effort to actually confirm this object is real. And, you know, so he and I have a friendly debate about that. But yeah, it is true. A lot of these things are one-off events. On the other hand, if you look back to like what was aviation like in 1922, so 100 years ago, 1923, 100 years ago, you couldn't really get on an airplane and get, you know,"
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      "text": " stuck by Southwest. I mean, you could get on an airplane if you had a lot of money and a barnstormer happened to come by your neighborhood airfield and just pick you up and take you up for five minutes for a wing walk. And nowadays, of course, it's incredibly common, unless you're on Southwest, as I said. But the fact is, if we're in this, you know, nascent of a technology, as perhaps Richard is hinting at, you know, that it's going to be this explosion,"
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      "text": " I would ask the kind of Nancy Kerrigan question, why now? Why us? Why here? And it's not really clear as the technological blueprint of us going forward. I do believe we'll be visiting Mars in the future and it's not so far-fetched to do that because we are in that barnstorming phase of space flight. So in 100 years from now, when Kurt's great grandchildren are rehearsing,"
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      "text": " Hosting you know theory of everything you know the second generation third generation then they'll be talking about it, but Would it be possible that there's a there's a there's a you know mass evolution and mass Sightings and actual encounters and why would that be happening now as opposed to 400 years ago or thousand years from now and I know I've heard some of the arguments for it, but"
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      "text": " So to answer the first question, what do we do for a non-repeatable event? How do we test for it? I mean, if the stories about UFOs coming regularly are true, then it's a repeatable event. You just don't know when."
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      "text": " Presumably these things are made of some kind of matter so we might build Various detectors radar like things and put them across the planet to detect Objects made of matter flying around and and indeed we have that across the globe Objects built to detect, you know ICBMs traveling between the continents So"
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      "text": " you know, across, you know, multiple election cycles, you know, and across multiple nations. So then if these things aren't detectable by our current technology, I mean, they're clearly detectable from their light because they're seen. So they're at least detectable that way. Perhaps they hide from radio. So, you know, we could scan the sky more thoroughly than we are. But I feel like"
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      "text": " Brilliant scientist. I think he may be expressing more confidence in his belief in this than he actually has. Yeah, I'm patiently waiting. So please, what's your answer to this question? And then also Tyler, Nicolas and Sorenson, I know that you're waiting so patiently in the waiting room. I'm going to let you in. I'll be quick then. Speaking as the non-scientist here,"
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      "text": " I don't really have a qualified scientific assessment of this, but I have more knowledge than all of us put together on this topic. What I would say is what we need is reliable data capture. So the idea that I was expressing earlier, I wish I could recall this particular German scientist's name, but there's just a number of these types of ideas of capturing data and then studying it. Now, I remember speaking with Christopher Mellon about this, who wrote a very good piece about"
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      "text": " less than a year ago calling at the United States Air Force for its absolute opaqueness regarding the data that he said he knows that it has relating to this subject and was referencing a large number of US satellite systems that he said these are perfectly designed for capturing anomalous data and he says and I'm absolutely certain they've done that but we don't have access to that information."
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      "text": " So I think, you know, it's not repeatable as a phenomenon. We've known this for a long time. I mean, the problem with science, correct me, guys, if I'm wrong here, but, you know, when you're doing science, you, the scientists, are assuming that you're in charge of the experiment. But if there's an intelligence that's beyond your own, it might be very difficult to do that. You might be dealing with an intelligence that doesn't want to play the same game that you want to play and might make it difficult, if that is the case."
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      "text": " If we're not at the top of the intellectual food chain here in our analysis of something, what is the likelihood that a scientist is going to be able to get... You know, it's one thing if you're studying a virus in a microscope, that'll behave more or less the way you expect it to. But I don't know if highly intelligent, presumably extremely advanced aliens are going to play by our rules. So I don't know if that causes a problem in terms of"
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      "text": " scientific analysis, but I do think data capture and historical analysis are always going to be important. My field is my study is that of history. I know that very well and and the only thing that I can say pretty confidently is that the major governments and national security establishments around this world have engaged with this phenomenon and I've been utterly befuddled by it or"
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