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Salvatore Pais on Quantum Gravity, UFO Patents, Pais Effect, and the Superforce [Part 1 of 2]

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[2:12] Salvatore Pius is an aerospace engineer, formerly working at the Naval Air Station and currently working at the United States Air Force. His patents and papers have attracted international attention for their potential military and energy production applications. If true and feasible, then they could change the way that we travel, communicate, as well as see ourselves in the cosmos. This is an exclusive interview and the first time Salvatore Pius has ever come on camera. This is part one of a two-part interview, so if you have questions for Sal for next time, then leave them below.
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[6:56] If you can see this type in these pretzels are making me thirsty these pretzels are making me thirsty let's see yes okay so we're live we are live Sal all right all right so
[7:25] Salvatore Pais. Is that correct? Did I pronounce it correctly? Correct, sir. Wow, one of the few to pronounce it right at the mark. Great, great. So Sal, firstly, no need to call me sir. I'm Kurt. I'm your friend. And tell the audience about your story. How did you come to these patents? How did you come to these ideas? And what are these ideas? Well, all right, it's a long story, but
[7:50] The whole idea started from Maxwell's equations, the Heaviside version of Maxwell's equations. As you well know, Maxwell's equations is a series of 20 equations with 20 unknowns written in Quaternion Formulism. They were extremely hard to deal with, and don't forget they were actually in ether theory at the time.
[8:13] Later Einstein did away with the Lumina first ether, even though he slightly reintroduced it in 1921 in a paper that no one wants to talk about, so I won't. I think it's called Sidelights on Relativity. Anyway, to make a very long story short, I noticed that a simple dimensional analysis of the heavy side version of Maxwell's equations
[8:39] a heavy side version of them. There are, you know, the four equations, four unknowns that every physics student knows to love. What makes this computer and these devices that we're using now in our podcast feasible? You could call them the laws of classical electromagnetism. And they talk about practically electric field E and magnetic
[9:10] Induction term B also known as the magnetic flux density and a simple relationship between these two terms E equals CB comes out of Maxwell's equations where C is the speed of light. Now I noticed that from
[9:34] from these equations you could actually get a term for the pointing for the magnitude of the pointing vector and it comes if you write the pointing vector if you go if you refer to my papers and you can give the papers in your in your podcast and your feed so so people know how to refer to them
[9:58] To make a very long story short, I noticed that it is possible
[10:28] The whole idea is it leads to control motion of electrically charged matter from solid to plasma states subjected to accelerated spin and or accelerated vibration via rapid acceleration transients.
[10:53] This gives rise to high energy electromagnetic energy fluxes, which are commensurate to high energy densities. Hence, it is possible, in my opinion, to achieve the Schwinger limit, that is electromagnetic energy fluxes on the order of 10 to the 33 watts per meter square, which is commensurate to energy densities on the order of 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube.
[11:22] So in other words, you can lead to something called quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown when you achieve. Yes, I'm so sorry. As an aside for the audience, if you're not following what some of these terms are, don't worry, because as we continue throughout the podcast, I'm going to be stopping Sal at different points to explain certain terms like even simple terms like what is a piezoelectric material? I know it's piezo however people want to pronounce it. What is the superconductor? What is the Cooper pair? What is the stringer limit? And so on and so on.
[11:52] So this will serve because we're going to have another conversation. This will serve as a prelude to that conversation. Correct, sir. And this is what I love about your podcast. Not only do you have a tremendous ability to understand your guesswork and you really take your time and I've never seen anybody
[12:13] I chose it because of your background in theoretical physics and mathematics because you are truly knowledgeable of this matter. Not only that, but you go in detail.
[12:43] as to the work of the guest, which is amazing compared to other podcasts. I chose you and also you mentioned whether on your Rose Goldheart interview, you mentioned if there's any possibility of getting in touch with me. I said, why not just cut the middleman and go directly to you?
[13:09] The whole idea is this, you have tremendous ability from the point of view of your background in theoretical physics and mathematics. And this is why I am on this podcast, because I want to speak to what I look at as a member of the mainstream physics community. I need to engage with that, with that community, so as to at least have them look at this work without
[13:38] being referred to as a Navy UFO or UAP patents and so forth. Because there's stigma around that? There is great stigma around that, sir, still. And unfortunately, even though certain events, for example, have even brought to this new UAP office being founded and so forth, I will not touch on that
[14:08] you know, unless you go into that particular subject. I'll keep it relevant to my work, but it is important to realize that this particular work could also have other implications. Now, why did I call it the Pais effect?
[14:28] A lot of people say that it was great hubris on my part, but after all it is an original concept and it's so much easier to say the price effect than to say control motion of electrically charged matter from solids to plasma states subjected to blah blah blah blah and all everything that I've said before that gives rise to these high energy densities. Remember with high energy densities you can manipulate locally
[14:57] To go back to your original question, what prompted me to actually write the patents, it was incredibly hard to get my ideas peer reviewed.
[15:27] Streaming only on Peacock.
[15:54] I believe this particular work actually
[16:24] Nobody believes that such high energy densities can be achieved. There is no way to manipulate the space-time continuum. There's no way to in any way engage with a quantum vacuum. And I believe that by this manner, and I will not repeat the pious effect because after a while it bothers me too. I'll tell you the truth. I wish someone could come up with a better
[16:53] Dr. Feynman.
[17:22] So then I went a different route, but this route is extremely hard because in the invention disclosure process at the Navy, this is quite an arduous process. First of all, you have to apply, you have to speak directly to the patent attorney for NAVAIR. In this case, it was Mr. Mark Glute, one of the best NAVAIR has.
[17:51] And you have to be good to understand some of the finer points of my theories. And then I had to go through a trial by fire, and let's put it that way. They're called the Invention Evaluation Board. And they're a group of NAVAIR fellows. We're talking about PhDs. A lot of them have PhDs in fields from quantum physics to electrical engineering to mechanical engineering, aerospace engineering.
[18:21] these are no lightweights and that room can pack sometimes up to 12 from 12 to 18 people that are basically they give you 20 to 30 minutes sometimes less to explain your work and whether that are you referring to this that is actually no that is actually that was done for a craft using yes
[18:51] It was a patent examiner interview. So after the invention disclosure was accepted by the Invention Evaluation Board at PACS, you actually go through and write your what's called a patent application.
[19:13] and that's given to the USPTO, the United States Patent and Trademark Organization. That's when usually a primary examiner, when it's something that is this elevated physics, this advanced physics, usually a primary examiner will examine the work. And in this case, Mr. Philip Bonzel was the primary examiner. He was taken aback because he said there's no way you can generate these high energy densities.
[19:44] So we had to convince them and that's why that particular it's called a patent examiner interview where you actually try to argue your case and show to the patent examiner that it is worth allowing the patent and shortly after that he actually rejected again and we had to file a
[20:11] an appeal based partially on that the patent examiner interview and he actually allowed and he wrote very minimal he said see appeal that's all he wrote for allowing the patent once we explained to him some of the finer points of the work.
[20:33] What were some of those finer points that convinced him and what were they in response to? So what were his criticisms? He said there's no way that you can get electric field strengths on the order of 10 to the 18 volts per meter and B fields. So in other words, magnetic flux density terms on the order of 10 to the nine Tesla. Remember that relationship that equals CB that I talked about 10 to the 18th. You know, your C is on the order of 10 to the eight meter per second.
[21:03] The whole idea is that I was able to show to him in this telephone interview while he had the slide presentation in front of
[21:27] that it is possible to generate the electromagnetic energy fluxes on the order of 10 to the 33 watts per meter square, which speaks to quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown. And once you break the quantum vacuum, you can basically manipulate gravitational fields. The vacuum is the resident medium, is the domain where all these forces interact.
[21:56] And yes, gravity can be regarded as a force, even though general relativity shows that it is mostly a curvature of space-time structure. Still, we'll talk about the super force later. You have some tremendous points on quantum gravity, and eventually we have to lead into that. But let's stick with the patterns for now.
[22:26] So once you go for the invention evaluation board, they they debate for it can take up to two to three weeks whether they should proceed with your invention, whether they should file a patent application. And on five occasions, every five of them. So we're talking about the room temperature superconductor. We're talking about the
[22:54] high frequency gravitational wave generator. We're talking about craft using an inertial mass reduction device. We're talking about high energy electromagnetic field generator. And we're talking about the plasma compression fusion device, which by the way, that is the only one that I could get in a prestigious journal, namely the IEEE Transactions on Plasma Science. It's pretty prestigious and
[23:21] It's extremely hard for people to accept new ideas. That is the bottom line. You asked a question previously as to why do you think mainstream physics stays away from you?
[23:51] Because these ideas, let's call it the Feynman effect. This shows that it is possible to interact with the quantum vacuum to generate such high energies of an electromagnetic nature in this case as to affect the energy densities locally of the space-time continuum.
[24:21] Great. And we're going to get into detail on that either in this podcast or the next one, because I'm still unclear, even though I've read quite a bit of your work, I'm still unclear what it means to interact with the quantum vacuum and pull out energy. But we can talk about that. Oh, it's not pulling out energy here. This is important to understand. What it does, it actually, it breaks it apart. It creates, for want of a better word, some sort of a black hole in that particular
[24:49] Locality so it actually it it creates a void within the vacuum within that region There is nothing absolutely nothing. We're not talking there is no quantum vacuum But again how you achieve that is is with extreme high energies densities you need that because if you look carefully a general relativity Look at the formalism that Einstein uses
[25:18] Instead of using the Ricci tensor, I use the Einstein tensor because it's easier to explain. G sub mu nu equals 8 pi times G, which is the universal gravitational constant divided by C to the fourth and the whole thing so that scalar constant times your tensor, your energy density, T sub mu nu.
[25:47] And if you look at it dimensionally, you realize that that scalar has in it what I call the super force, C to the fourth divided by G, which is on the order of 10 to the 44 Newtons. And that basically represents the force of unification of all known forces. But that's for a later time in the podcast.
[26:10] So when you look at that formula, you realize that in order to affect the space-time curvature, in order to affect locally your spatial temporal geometrical structure, let's call it that, you must have extremely high T sub mu nu. You have very high energy densities. And how do you obtain that versus this effect that
[26:36] What is your response to that?
[27:07] Absolutely not, sir. They are not a bluff. A lot of people have called them disinformation. A lot of people have called them disinformation. But if you look closely, the physics is correct. All you have to do is look at it dimensionally and you'll see that that electromagnetic energy fluxes that not only the correct dimensions, but has the correct physics in it. But you realize that, OK,
[27:35] It is possible to get these kind of energy densities not by just having very high voltages in the local area, very high electrical charges, but also, for example, very high frequencies of either vibrations or spin. Now to go back to your question on James Sheehy, because that's important, I think this one that's coming up. Go ahead, sir. You are going to ask about Dr. James Sheehy. Yes, he attested that it was operable. Is that correct?
[28:04] These are the terms that he used, and I'm not quite sure exactly what he meant by it, but if you look at the physics, again, these are based on the laws of classical electromagnetism. These computers, these devices, this microphone I'm using, none of them would work if it wasn't for the veracity, the validity of the Heaviside version of what we understand now as classical electromagnetics.
[28:34] This is what he meant. Was he able to test it? As far as I know, there's no such craft out there that's using the Pais effect. We tried to do what's called a high-energy electromagnetic field generator at Pax River. We tried to actually do the experiments. We tried to accelerate a charge in spin up to 100,000 rpm.
[29:03] So we talk about 10,000 radians per second. So quite high angular velocities. But the charge that was used could not be achieved more than 10 to the minus 8 Coulombs. And you need at least a one Coulomb electrical charge to affect some of these more remarkable phenomena.
[29:27] Okay, so let's focus in on this one coulomb charge. So I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations here, and let's say we have a capacitance of one Farad, then if we had a sphere, it would have to be larger than the radius of the Earth. Now let's imagine we had a sphere that is one meter, so fairly large but not terrible. To place a one coulomb charge on it, it would have to have a potential of about one gigavolt. Now that's quite a significant amount of potential. So is this feasible? Is this one coulomb charge reasonable? I believe it is.
[29:57] Yes, I believe it is, but it cannot be your regular. The truth of the matter is you'll never achieve these kind of energy densities with solids, but you can achieve them with plasmas. Now, exactly how that's done, I cannot say on the podcast, because that could represent an issue of national security. And sir, I am a patriot. Can never give away certain
[30:27] Where did you get your ideas from? What was the inspiration?
[30:57] This is the thing that bothered me tremendously is if you look again at general relativity, this g sub mu nu equals the scalar constant times your energy density. It's just, it bothered me tremendously that this energy density could not be achieved. And I kept on telling myself, maybe if I go back to the fundamental equations and not necessarily
[31:23] Maxwell's quaternion formalism, but Heaviside's equation. Maybe there is a way to do this, not by using high voltages, high charges, but by using high frequencies. And then it occurred to me, what if I accelerate either in spin or in vibration? Because then you get nonlinear terms. You get parabolic terms in your angular frequency of either spin or vibration. Because remember, spin and vibration, they have similar equations.
[31:54] So what is the difference between spin and vibration? I think it is much easier to achieve very high frequencies of vibration than high frequency of spin because not only again when you deal with spin you cannot have for example discs that are high in diameter say than four inches because
[32:21] the centrifugal forces that would break this thing apart, especially at 100,000 rpm. But it is, in my opinion, it's possible to get frequencies of vibration very high, even exceeding 10 to the 8, 1 divided by second, by subjecting it to, for example, pulsed current going through these piezo, however you choose to pronounce
[32:50] Let's call them piezoelectric elements. Then it is possible. But remember, pulsed current, because what you need is an accelerated vibration. Okay, so let's break this down. What is a piezoelectric material? A piezoelectric, for example, PCT. It's from lead, zirconate, titanate. It's a composite material. The whole idea is when it's subjected to a voltage,
[33:19] It can actually show the formation of the material itself. Or if you expose the material to deformations, stresses and so forth, it gives rise to voltages. So people have used it one way or used it the other way. I use it from the point of view, if you send a current through it, so an electrical charge accelerated through it, then you get these very high frequencies of vibration. This is how I use piezoelectrics.
[33:48] People can understand it with their phones, the fact that you can press and that your phone registers it is because there's a piezoelectric material there or no? Sure, why not? Yes, it is quite possible that the piezoelectrics are used in many components, many devices. So yes, absolutely. OK, in other words, just to reiterate, it's you apply pressure and then there's a charge. Is it a charge or there's a voltage? There's a voltage.
[34:18] Okay, so piezo is a relationship between applying pressure and then an increase in voltage. Yes, or in this case applying a current
[34:45] Vibration of the composite itself, you can actually see this thing vibrate once you put a current through it.
[35:11] I think frequency, if I remember correctly, something to do is like the frequency of vibration is on the order of 1 divided by square root of LC where L is your induction, C is your capacitance of whatever circuit you have. That's a common formula for it. But this is how you get vibration from these elements by passing a current through it.
[35:38] And in this case you don't just pass a constant current, you pass a pulse current. Okay, now what is the difference between those two? Because that would accelerate the frequency of vibration. That would bring in this non-linearity in angular frequency of either spin or vibration. Remember that I spoke of the magnitude of the pointing vector being the electromagnetic. Now is that because it resonates? Yes, yes, yes.
[36:08] that as well because what's resonance after all? That's an amplification of energy.
[36:14] Okay, so is one way to understand this like there's this famous video of a bridge that's wobbling and it's because of the wind and the wind happens to be at the frequency of the bridge. So if we were to just apply that wind straight without any oscillations in the wind, then the bridge wouldn't oscillate so much. It's almost like the wind is pulsing and you're saying something similar is going on where you pulsate some piezoelectric material with electricity at some resonant frequency and you increase this frequency of vibration, right?
[36:40] If you look carefully at the equations that I use to generate the magnitude of the pointing vector, which is really the high energy electromagnetic energy flux.
[37:05] And remember that that EM energy flux, it's really C times your energy in it. Again, see the speed of light times the, well, in this case would be epsilon zero E square, where E is your electric field strength. So your electromagnetic energy flux is really C times the energy density.
[37:31] So that's how the two are related. That's why I say 10 to the 33 watts per meter square is commensurate with the 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube. That's an energy density. And that brings about this effect of quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown.
[37:51] That can actually be found in a great book. It's an AIAA publication, I believe by, is it Mark Millis and Eric W. Davis, Dr. Davis, Dr. Eric Davis, known for other things as well. They actually, I think they were the two main editors for this book, a great book called Foundations or Frontiers of Advanced Physics.
[38:21] I'm not sure exactly the name of the book, but yeah, Mark Millis and Eric W. Davis, they edited this book. Frontiers of Propulsion Science. Thank you, sir. That's it. And in it, they speak of this ability to have quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown based on this idea of getting energy densities on the order of 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube. If you can do that,
[38:50] And how do you do that? By using the Pais effect or the Feynman effect. That's however you choose to call it. Okay, getting back to this question of whether or not... Or maybe we should call it the Schwinger effect. Yeah, well the Schwinger effect already has a name. So this breakdown of the quantum vacuum that you keep referring to, is that related to the Schwinger effect, the creation? Yes, yes, because
[39:16] It is Schwinger, again, Schwinger, Tomonaga and Feynman received the Nobel Prize for quantum electrodynamics. Now, Schwinger, Julian Schwinger, he came up, he basically said, if we can get electric field strengths on the order of 10 to the 18 volts per meter, which is, which would mean magnetic induction B fields on the order of 10 to the nine Tesla,
[39:45] then we could actually get quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown. So what you could actually do, imagine a rip in the space-time continuum. So basically whatever you generate this energy density with would be sucked, for lack of a better word, into
[40:11] This condition vacuum, it's no longer your regular quantum, it's like a void within the vacuum. Okay. And then what are the implications of that? What happens after that? A lot of, it's quite possible that a very anomalous physical phenomena, for example, new methods of transport, you never have this idea of your regular propulsion ideas.
[40:40] You no longer have to implement, for example, Newton's third law. They would move more, this craft would move more like these UAPs than they... In the Schwinger effect, there's also, as soon as the Schwinger effect comes into effect, and by the way, it's not been shown because no one's been able to generate this. This is theoretical or hypothetical. It also causes a decay of the electric field itself. So does that mean you have to continually supply an electric field? Yes, absolutely.
[41:10] It's while the device is operational that this once the device stops, you go back to your regular quantum vacuum and you're back. Again, nobody has generated this 10 to the 33 watts per meter square. I believe the bias effect can be used to generate that using plasmas. Exactly how I cannot say on this podcast, but I believe that is possible. So yes,
[41:39] Okay. I just use electrically charged solids because it is easier to explain. And you're right, it is not easy to obtain a one coulomb electrical charge. It is extremely hard. We're getting some of the preliminaries out of the way. So how about we talk about what the Gertzen's gene effect is? Because that will come up plenty. Sure, sir. Think of the Gertzenstein, the best way of thinking of it, it's a way to generate high frequency gravitational waves.
[42:08] I believe the original paper was somewhere in the Soviet Union in 1960. What he does is he uses nested electromagnetic fields to generate high frequency gravitational waves. An electromagnetic field confined within another.
[42:35] And the way I use it, I basically generate the Pais effect both within the interior, the internal electromagnetic field and the outer electromagnetic field. You can refer to my patent, actually, and this is very interesting. The craft using an inertial mass reduction device
[43:00] It took a great deal of doing, a lot of work to get it through examination. The high frequency gravitational wave generator was a first office allowance, which is amazing for such a highly advanced and highly controversial subject matter.
[43:29] Okay, the Goodsenstein effect theoretically can be used to generate high frequency gravitational waves. If you can generate high frequency gravitational waves, again, what do you do? You can alter the space-time continuum in proximity of your craft. So it would move like these UAPs move for lack of a better analogy. So do you feel like these UAPs are operating under this principle?
[44:00] I am not certain, but it is quite feasible. Yes, it's feasible. I'll restate what the Gerstenstein effect is. If you have a strong magnetic field and you pass an electromagnetic field through that B field, then you can generate, it's like a conversion. You can change from EM waves to gravitational waves. Now gravitational waves, Weigel has only found them from black holes merging. Low frequency, remember.
[44:30] These are high frequency gravitation. So is LIGO or is anyone else looking for high frequency gravitational waves? Because a question that pops into my mind is if these crafts are operating by that principle, then we should be able to observe high frequency waves. We should be able to observe it with LIGO or some other experimental setup. That is a very good point. I believe LIGO cannot detect the high frequency gravitational waves. If someone can show that is erroneous, I stand corrected.
[45:00] But as far as I know, they detect low frequency gravitation waves. So it is quite possible that LIGO would not pick up these hypothetical craft. OK, we're going to get into a bit of the details here. So on screen, you can see this, but I'll place this into the podcast once it's edited. But perhaps I could show you here. The image that I'll be showing is that.
[45:29] Oh yes, that's the Kraft using an inertial mass reduction device, right. Okay, so let's go through this. These microwave emitters, what are they doing? What they use for is to generate high frequency vibration of the plasma. Remember there's like a xenon plasma and that affects the outer
[45:53] Forgive me if I retread the same ground repeatedly. It's just how I'm understanding it. I want to make sure that I'm not misunderstanding anything.
[46:21] Okay, so we have this craft here. And there is plasma where the plasma is. See where these waves are. This is like a, it's like a fluorescent how there's a fluorescent tube in this hollow and that's filled with a plasma, or we'll make it into a plasma. So is that there's some plasma inside the walls of a craft.
[46:45] Right. Okay, so there's some plasma and then the microwave emitters are there in order to accelerate their vibrational frequency. Yes, you need that in order to get these high frequencies of vibration. Now exactly, exactly how you'd make sure that the plasma does not contact the walls. That's I cannot talk on this podcast. Hear that sound.
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[48:27] Over here, it says it's dielectric liner. Can you explain what that is, a dielectric liner? It would make sure that the electrical charge is basically a boundary for the electrical charge.
[48:54] Electrical charge cannot pass that. It's like an insulator. That's what the dielectric boundary is. And these microwave emitters, once they're turned on after some time, I don't know how long, then it will induce the Schwinger effect? It will induce the frequencies that you need to achieve the Schwinger effect with. Remember the whole idea of the Schwinger effect is to break down the quantum vacuum.
[49:24] which would mean to create discontinuities in your space-time so-called continuum. And once you achieve these so-called voids within the vacuum, then the craft can be sucked into that area of, I believe Dr. David Froning, or I'm not sure whether, yes, Dr. Froning spoke of it as a conditioned vacuum, if you refer to his work, David Froning.
[49:53] I think he goes by his middle name somehow, but his last name is Froning and he speaks of it as a condition vacuum whereby you can facilitate the movement of these inertially reduced grafts.
[50:19] I do believe his last name is Froning. I think it's spelled F-R-O-N-I-N-G, Froning. Another effect that you should go over is the Prigogine effect, if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Oh, the Prigogine effect, yes. Ilya Prigogine, I believe 1977 Nobel Prize winner in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. The idea that if you have a nonlinear medium,
[50:49] which could be a plasma, again. If you inject electromagnetic energy into it and then you somehow injected a source to drive the plasma far from equilibrium, then it is possible that these plasmas will self-organize, thereby giving rise to what's called the pregorgene effect.
[51:17] I'm not quite sure if anybody refers to it as the Prigogine effect, but he talks a bit in his Nobel Prize lecture. I think it's called time structure and fluctuations. It was given at Stockholm in 1977 upon receipt of his Nobel Prize in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. You can actually see he talks about this idea
[51:45] in the form of, I believe he talks about Bernard cells. Bernard cells, it's a fluid dynamic phenomena that occurs when you have a certain layer of oil over a heated plate and how eventually these chaotic, seemingly chaotic cells eventually self-organize into these beautiful, almost I think hexagonal shapes and hence the Prigogine effect. And it can, again,
[52:15] What's meant by nonlinear medium?
[52:41] The nonlinear medium would be a medium in which your energy is quite possible would resonate, will be amplified if added. It will no longer be incrementally amplified. It will be nonlinear. So the effect would be parabolic. For example, again, the idea of instead of omega, omega square, like you find in the pice of it. Yeah.
[53:11] That's what I mean by nonlinear medium. Okay, so the nonlinear medium is the plasma and that's inside the resonant cavity of this craft and that is resonating because of the microwaves. Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. Because you and as you add as you as you accelerate in frequency of these exactly how how these frequencies are accelerated. I cannot speak on the podcast, but
[53:41] It is feasible to get this omega square effect rather than your regular linear omega. Because, again, we're trying to counterbalance this Q square term, this charge square term, because you don't, again, it's hard to get that one coulomb of charge as you yourself have remarked. But it is much, much better to get these high frequencies
[54:07] using either piezoelectrics or plasmas under certain structure. Now forgive me if I'm taking a while to come up with questions only because I'm going through my notes and there's so much actually for most people I have them all on one page but for you they're scattered amongst maybe six documents here yes and either way I'm not I'm not terribly concerned because I
[54:32] We're going to be editing this and it'll be pristine once it's finally put up. So for the few people who are watching, you're going to have to bear with my ineptitude and habitude. Okay, so let's see here. And my diatribe. Okay, while I'm coming up with mainly a clarificatory question, do you have any questions for do you have any comments or clarification?
[54:56] It would be great if I know that you have background in theoretical physics. Could you, for example, because eventually I want to talk about this idea of the super force, the force of unification, could you go into the idea of quantum gravity and speak on it? Because I know you're quite knowledgeable in this area. Sure. So how about this will take about four and a half minutes, maybe five and a half minutes or so. It's just that I haven't seen any explanation of why quantum gravity is a particularly tough
[55:25] By the way, why I say this is that you've had a tremendous podcast with Professor Carlo Rovelli who are greatly, greatly holding great esteem just like I hold Professor Stefan Alexander very much in great esteem. I wish he had responded to my emails on the super force but that's another matter.
[55:55] Carlo Rovelli, he spoke of this new book, I think it was published in 22, by Professor Jacom, he goes by Jay Armas of the University of Amsterdam. Conversations on Quantum Gravity. That is exactly it, sir. And if you can take it away, please do.
[56:19] In classical gravity, there are a couple of principles that are held as sacred. You have them as assumptions. These assumptions are motivated, but they're somewhat, they're assumptions. So general covariance, that's a technical term. You can look this up. Locality. And locality, what that means is that your Lagrangian at any point depends only on that point and then the derivatives at that point, rather than this point and then some point that's far away. And then you also have a third assumption, which is that you don't have a dependency on derivatives of order three or greater. You also have
[56:48] See, some people say background independence, which sounds like we're placing all spacetimes on an equal footing, quote unquote, but then this whole equal footings business, you hear people say the space and time are on equal footing. I think that should go away. If there are myths that hold you back, they sound nice, but space and time are not put on equal footing in Einstein's equations because you have a minus sign with the time direction. So there's similar footing, but they're not the same footing. And then also background independence, placing all spacetimes on equal footing. It doesn't make sense because that would mean you'd have to have a measure
[57:17] on all spacetimes such that you can say that they're all equal in some way and it's not quite apparent how to do that. Okay, anyway, one of the problems with quantum gravity is getting back to our known laws, because you have to cross many scales, there's like 10 to the 40 scales, either the order of the order is about correct, and in condensed matter physics, you know what spacetime is, you know what it means for an atom to be in a particular place.
[57:40] Well, when you're describing the fundamentals of space-time itself, what does it mean to be at a particular place? What does an observable mean? An observation is generally at a particular time. Now even in classical GR, an observation at a particular time isn't well defined. So then one of the reasons why people go into 3D gravity, you'll hear this term plenty, is because in 3D gravity,
[58:02] In gravity in general, whenever you're trying to quantize it, you study vacuum equations, which means you remove all the matter. And in 3D gravity, it turns out that the Ricci tensor is zero. And then that means that the Riemann tensor is zero, which means that it's locally flat, which means that it's a topological field theory. And what that means is that it's extremely well-behaved and it's nice to study. You can deform spacetime and correlation functions aren't affected.
[58:26] Okay, now how do we go about quantizing gravity? So here's one way, and this is the approach of loop quantum gravity. It's that you remove all the matter, because you generally want to study vacuum equations, and then you take a surface, and then you set that surface at t equals zero, and then that surface has to be a Cauchy surface. So there's so many technical requirements here, and a Cauchy surface is not kosher, although it's kosher to be Cauchy.
[58:51] It's a technical requirement to be Cauchy. Then you make a manifold into a Poisson manifold. Okay, so how do you do that? Well, you place a Poisson algebra. Now, the reason why I'm saying all of this, it's so baroque and esoteric, most people, their eyes are glazing over, is because firstly, many people are somewhat lied to by these people who are popularizers of science, by them speaking down to the audience and simplifying, overly simplifying it. And I feel like for 30 years, the public has been mystified by wave particle duality. And that needs to
[59:21] needs to go away yeah wave-particle duality is it's not that something is a wave and a particle it's a quantum mechanical object and it's something different well anyway so i'm speaking with these intricate terms so that people who are interested can then look it up by the way this is called canonical QG but it's a non-canonical choice of a because you chose a slice and now you understand it okay what is a Poisson algebra Poisson algebra is a Lie algebra that's associated with the derivation okay now you understand it classically
[59:46] Now, classically, you have Q and P, which are like phase space, and that's understood as a member of a cotangent bundle over the space of positions. So then what you want is a Hilbert space that has the same commutation relations, but with operators on a Hilbert space. So then for QG, you think, OK, how about instead of a cotangent bundle over R3, which is classical mechanics, you take a cotangent bundle over the space of solutions of Einstein's equations,
[60:14] but then this is an infinite dimensional space and has singularities and it's not even a manifold it's an orbifold and then it's not even a cotangent bundle for technical reasons then you wonder the technical reasons have to do about
[60:25] Constraints and then constraints play a role because I know this gets a bit Baroque, but I'm almost at the point technical constraints There's a tricky role with them because let's say you have r2 and then let's say you want a particle to be restricted to the y-axis on r2 Well, what you can do is you can set x equal to zero. Sure. Okay, but then what do you do with the momentum? Do you set momentum equal to zero? It turns out that you shouldn't do it like that what you have to do is you have to mod out by px
[60:51] is equivalent to px plus a constant and that's called a Poisson reduction and so there are many different small but extremely technical reasons why one can't simply make a superficial quantizing of gravity and then you also have to mod out by phase space except phase space in this space
[61:08] in this case is a diffeomorphism group and then it's that strange because in traditional physics you act on a system with time with time translation but you don't mod out by time and then in the canonical approach it's not easy to define what it means to be a square integrable space over all Riemannian metrics on three manifolds so you have square integrable spaces and Hilbert spaces in traditional quantum mechanics so instead you define a new variable where the metric is in the variable and that variable is an SU connection called a spin connection
[61:37] And so then a spin network and then you get to spin networks from here. So spin network is a graph where each edge is an irreducible representation of some group and then the each vertices assigned to it an intertwiner which relates them and so on. But you can see what you can see that all of this is extremely technical and that
[61:56] It's not that one doesn't understand quantum gravity because they're missing consciousness, for example, or someone who believes they've watched enough Neil deGrasse Tyson and Three Blue, One Brown, that they can solve quantum gravity and the Yang-Mills mass gap, etc. There are technical reasons why quantum gravity doesn't work. And if one could solve it, it would be worthy of a Fields Medal in and of itself. OK, so that's quite a slew of information that I may end up cutting from the podcast, but we'll see. I'll trim that down. So that's quantum gravity.
[62:26] I hope you do not cut any of it, sir. Dr. Eric Weinstein and Sir Roger Penrose would be extremely proud of what you just said. More people should explain quantum gravity this way, not just anyway, the way it's done.
[62:43] Well, look, the space time is classical and smooth and quantum gravity is fluctuates. And so you have to it's not as simple as that. I mean, well, it's not as simple as that. Anyway, now that I've talked about quantum gravity for a bit too long, why don't you talk about what the super force is and how you believe that solves some of the problems in quantum gravity. Okay. It's interesting, because you can say this would go back to Sir Isaac Newton. I think
[63:12] was 1693. I could be possibly wrong with you. He writes a letter to his friend in which he says, what if, what if gravity is caused by an agent capital A that acts constantly in accordance with given laws of nature? Why, what if this agent capital A
[63:38] is the super force. And what I mean by the super force would be like the force of unification, the force that would rule over the other forces and equalize all forces. I believe it does exist at the Planck scale. Now why at the Planck scale?
[63:59] Look carefully at the structure of general relativity formalism that's used by Einstein. And I shall not use Ricci or Riemannian curvature formalism. I'll use Einstein tensor. So G sub mu nu equals what? A 8 pi big G divided by C to the fourth. The whole thing times T sub mu nu. That T sub mu nu again represented of energy density.
[64:30] But look carefully at that scalar constant. It has a term in it, C to the fourth divided by big G. Well, if you do the math, that term comes from a blank energy divided by blank length. So your blank mass times C square, the whole thing divided by GH bar divided by C cubed
[65:00] The whole thing, one half, the thing comes up as C to the fourth divided by G. How can you get a Planck force featuring within general relativity? And it goes further. You can find the C to the fourth divided by big G, what I term the super force.
[65:23] This force of unification in the Dirac equation, which is the relativistic form of Schrodinger equation, the foundational form, formalism of quantum mechanics, which is absolutely remarkable that the C to the fourth divided by G should figure not only that, but the super force equals the Planck force and the Planck force does not have H bar in it. So it's non-Planckian in nature.
[65:48] It's classical, which means the super force, which equals the Planck force at the Planck scale, is the bridge between the world of the very large, namely general relativity, and the world of the very small represented by quantum field theory. And according to Professor Jay Armas, this is what's needed. A force of unification, a bridge that would unify all four known forces
[66:17] in this case including gravity, even though some people think of it as non-force. They think of it as a space-time geometric curvature. But if you look carefully, okay, and now that I've said what I've said with the C to the fourth divided by big G, look carefully at Einstein's equation. It can be reformulated. It's actually saying that the superforce acting on the space-time geometric
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[69:20] Structure gives rise to energy density, hence matter.
[69:45] And you can just see by rearranging the terms of the equation that that's exactly what's saying. Not only that, if you look carefully at the Bekenstein-Hawking formulation for entropy of a black hole, C to the fourth divided by big G also features in that because your entropy of a black hole would be given as H bar divide, actually K sub B, which is the Boltzmann constant, divided by H bar C
[70:15] that term times C to the fourth divided by G times your area of the black hole. That would be your entropy. And you can actually see that I am correct. The actual and the significant again is that it is the super force acting on the area of the black hole that generates this black hole entropy. Hence, I believe it's the super force that's the bridge, the C to the fourth divided by big G.
[70:43] Which is non-Planckian in nature acts as the bridge between the world of the very large and the world of the very small. And it exists at the Planck scale at every point in space and time. Okay, so help me understand. What does it mean when you say that it acts on it? So firstly, let me make this clear. When you say super force, you're referring to the Planck force.
[71:06] And people can look at what the Planck force is. Yes. Okay. Yes. And then secondly, when you say act on it. So let's imagine we have G equals K times T and forget about G is Einstein. Forget. I'm just making up some variables. I could have said X equals K times Y. I wouldn't say K is acting on Y, but you're saying K is acting on Y in that case. So what does that mean? To me? I see that as a proportionality constant. So as like a conversion factor.
[71:35] Okay, so think of the analogy between the main formula of general relativity, g sub mu nu, equal that scalar constant times d sub mu nu. Now, transform it into dimensional character. Just think of it would be one divided by L square, where your L would be some characteristic length, could be the plank length, equal L divided by E,
[72:03] times E divided by L cubed. E divided by L cubed, that's your energy density term. Well, what is a force? It's really the gradient of an energy. That's why that E divided by L is really your super force. And if you just put that term on the other side, it's actually saying it's the super force acting on your spacetime geometric curvature that yields
[72:33] Your energy density, hence matter. So I believe it is the super force that generates matter based on whatever that space-time geometric curvature local in that particular domain is. So you could actually have a different idea of what, it's just remarkable what Einstein has come up with.
[72:59] If you just restructure it, you see a whole different meaning of this formula. And it says it is the super force acting on the space-time geometric structure that gives rise to energy density, hence matter. That is interesting, I think. It's new, anyway. It's just a new way of looking. It's just a new perspective on old physics.
[73:27] okay so let me state it in my words and see if this aligns with what you're saying yes sir okay so traditionally in einstein's equations you have g which which colloquially is spacetime and so geometry and then on the right side there's t which is the stress energy tensor which is thought of as the matter now these are coupled but you can think of it as geometry and then
[73:51] There's some proportionality constant in the matter. Now you're saying that it's 8 pi divided by the Planck force. So let's just move the Planck force to this side. So Planck force times the geometry equals 8 pi times the matter distribution. And you can think of the super force or the Planck force in this case. What is the super force? It is the Planck force because it acts at the Planck scale. So therefore the super force equals the Planck force. So what that equation now says, it's the super force.
[74:21] Okay, I'm going to need to think about that some more because I still don't see. So the way that I see it is that, okay, cool. These numbers come up in a couple of different places. It comes up in
[74:41] quantum mechanics and it comes up in relativity and these are what we're trying to merge. Again, keep in mind C to the fourth divided by big G, why should it come up in the Dirac equation by a manipulation of the terms in the Dirac equation or the Schrodinger equation and also in general relativity and just think of it actually even easier than that. If this force C to the fourth divided by big G
[75:08] Why should it be non-Planckian in a classical realm? Because it is Planck energy divided by Planck length that all of a sudden loses its H bar term. So it becomes classical. Why? Because the superforce must exist and it's 10 to the 44th Newton's. I believe it actually acts at what eventually we're going to talk about the Ashtakar bounce point.
[75:38] And you can give more in your podcast. You understand this because you read the right. Yes. So Ashtakar's Bounce, what Sal is referring to is this paper called the robustness of key features of quantum, of loop quantum cosmology. So people can look that up. That will be in the description. Okay. Now you're saying this bounce is relevant to your work because? Because I'm saying it's the super force that acts at the Planck scales. That's at this bounce point, this Ashtakar bounce point.
[76:08] that actually you can think of it as saying thus far and no further by actually saying there are no space-time singularities. It doesn't go to zero, it goes to the Splank scale. It's exactly what Professor Ashdekar talks about when he talks about his bounds. I believe it is the super force that acts at this bounds that prevents
[76:36] any so-called space-time singularities from forming.
[76:59] Okay, so just what Sal's referring to is there's this book called Conversations on Quantum Gravity, which anyone who's interested in quantum gravity should read. And there are different chapters and each chapter is a theoretical physicist talking about the problem of quantum gravity from their point of view, which generally contradicts everyone else's point of view. So it's fun to watch because they pretty much are squabbling without speaking to one another. Number three is Ashdekar. Yes.
[77:27] Did ball lightning inform your work with plasma? I cannot say it did. That's a very good question. What informed it was this idea of considering the Heaviside version of Maxwell's equation and this idea that you can get these extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes.
[77:55] But if you look carefully at this question, it's quite possible that that's why it works. That's why, for example, it's very unusual that these balls of plasma can actually go through solid walls. You have to question why. How?
[78:18] You hear people talk about orbs in the UFO circles. Do you believe these to be related to ball lightning or some form of plasma? I quite believe that there are forms of plasma. Yes, sir. It speaks. It speaks to this idea of quantum electrodynamic vacuum by breakdown, because once you achieve these effects, all these anomalies can be present. Yes, I do believe that's possible.
[78:45] Just to get a bit speculative here, these balls are usually of the size of an order of a tennis ball to a basketball. They're generally not larger than a building, let's say. So let's speak on the ones that are small. Do you imagine that to be a small craft, a probe? Hyper-speculation again, this is okay. From a hyper-speculation point of view, I would say it's quite possible these are probes. Yes.
[79:13] When someone is operating in that craft that you outlined in this hybrid craft using an inertial maths, hybrid craft using an inertial maths modification device,
[79:24] Are you able to control the craft from within it? Because in some of these space-time engineers, I know you're not engineering the metric, but in some of these crafts which depend on space-time metric engineering, it's not as if you can control the mechanism that propels you forward so that you can stop it and move it left and right and so on because it's causally disconnected from you. Can you control it in your model? I believe it's possible. Again, refer to Froning's work and the condition vacuum.
[79:53] Dr. Lacknall
[80:23] He believes that I'm able to generate Bose-Einstein condensate like states whereby it is possible for these room temperature, high temperature superconductive effects
[80:53] Let's explain what a Bose-Einstein condensate is and then as well as what a superconductor is. What's the difference between the two? I wouldn't call myself a good explainer.
[81:23] I could not provide a good explanation of exactly what a Bose-Einstein condensate is. All I could say is that in a superconductor, you can achieve Cooper pairing. So you can actually have your electrons somehow couple with one another. So now they actually can move smoothly through your conductor. Now exactly how this is done
[81:52] Because after all, between two electrons, you have a repulsion force, a very high repulsion force. So exactly how this is done within a superconductor. This is the idea of BCS theory. I think Bardeen, Cooper and Schrieffer, they also got the Nobel Prize for height for. So for superconductivity, I believe. But it was not
[82:20] high-temperature superconductivity. Now, Professor Lacknow says it is possible to generate these Bose-Einstein condensate. I believe these are states of matter when you go very extremely low in temperatures. You can actually have coupling between your electrons. For example, this whole idea of Cooper pairing, how these electrons couple to one another. So they actually move as one
[82:49] I believe at Wolfgang Kettle, Professor Kettle, who received the Nobel Prize for the practical achievement of a Bose-Einstein condensate, the best way to refer to it is to have these electrons move as if they march in lockstep or one giant matter wave, he called it. Yes, I have great respect for Professor Kettle.
[83:19] remarkable man. He actually answered one of my emails one time when I was trying to hear that sound.
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[84:43] It's extremely hard to publish an archive. Every one of my papers was rejected at archive. This is Cornell University's depository.
[85:10] published there before they go on to try to publish a prestigious journal. The first time that I tried to publish they had no idea who I was and when I sent them I think one or two of my previously published papers also
[85:34] that I have a doctorate in mechanical and aerospace engineering from Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio. When I send this to them, they basically said, so what? So what? You know, we need you. No, not at all. We need you to get some sort of sponsor. So that's when I started writing to notable physicists that
[86:02] I assumed could possibly sponsor the work. One of them was Professor Kettle, another one was Professor Maldasena of the Advanced Institute at Princeton. Unfortunately, neither would sponsor the work, so I just gave up and went with the patent route. You don't just have one patent, you have three and you had trouble with only one, is that correct? And the other two were fine?
[86:31] Actually, there were five patent applications put in. There was a high energy electromagnetic field generator. It received the patent. There was the craft using an inertial mass reduction device that received the patent after a lot of going back and forth with the primary examiner, Mr. Philip Onzel, a great, great man, by the way, very, very, very technically app. He posed some very key questions that
[87:00] He really knew his stuff and we were able against
[87:29] One of the things that I send you that primary examiner interview that there are a series of slides that aided to his acceptance of that patent, the allowance of that patent. We had a very strong appeal that was based partially on that phone interview and where the slide presentation was presented and that got us through on that one.
[87:58] Now, another one was the high frequency gravitational wave generator that application also received. That was the first office allowance that went through extremely smoothly, which for the controversial subject matter discussed was very interesting. And then there were two more. There are room temperature superconductor.
[88:20] which we actually changed the name to high-temperature superconductor thinking maybe that would make the primary example more malleable. It did it. And so that pattern application. And the last one, plasma compression fusion device, which I was fortunate enough to actually publish in IEEE Transaction on Plasma Science, a very prestigious journal of plasma physics, especially which deals with nuclear fusion.
[88:51] actual production of nuclear fusion. The chief editor found it very refreshing. I still remember one of the comments. Again, these are new ideas. Some people call them revolutionary, some people call them breakthrough.
[89:14] any which way. These are new perspectives on old physics. I would not call these new physics at all, because they're based on old physics. It's just a new interpretation. For example, the whole idea of the super force, how the super force can arise in Einstein classical relativity for formalism, even though the super force is really blank energy divided by blank length, meaning it is the blank force.
[89:43] So it acts at the Planck scale. Again, just new ways of looking at old physics. That's all this is. Can you remind me once more what the electric field strength is? The Schwinger limit at 10 to the 18 volts per meter. Okay. So look, if I do this little calculation, just the back of the envelope, well, back of the Wolfram Alpha envelope.
[90:06] Here it says that if you are 10,000 kilometers away from something that generates that you should feel 10 to the 10. What is the unit again? Gigavolts or what? What is it? Oh, I'm not. I'm not an engineer. I don't deal with numbers. 10 to the 18 volts per meter. That's your Schuenger voltage. Yeah.
[90:30] Look, let's say it's 10 to the 18, and then you divide by R squared, and then you just say, well, look, can I feel if something at some part of the planet is generating this Schwinger effect, I should be able to feel it at some other part of the planet drastically. So firstly, is that correct? I would not know. I've never generated those kind of energy densities. I would not know. Based on fall off by R squared. My opinion is that it generates this in the proxy. It's a local effect.
[91:00] So it generates it in proximity of the craft. So it does not, it doesn't bleed out somehow. Yes, exactly. It's, it, it becomes, um, it's as if it's a break. It's a break in the space-time continuum. It's as if, again, you generate it a void within the quantum vacuum. There's absolutely nothing at that point.
[91:25] You know how there's like loss in criterion for the superconductors? Yes. Is there something else that talks about how damp it would be? Like how far it would have to be before it starts to fade off rapidly, even greater than R squared? I have absolutely no clue. I've done no further work on this than I've already done. And as far as I know, nobody's picked up on it because everybody thinks again, these are the ideas of a crackpot. And some people have called me what? A charlatan, a crank.
[91:55] I've been called many names. How does that make you feel? It's hard. I will tell you the truth because I used, again, all physics and just regular dimensional analysis actually over rather simplistic nature to generate these formalisms. And why would people, you know, why must they denigrate other individuals
[92:25] I would never do it. Absolutely not. I would try, for example, to see whether it's experimentally feasible. And even if that person is proven false, I would definitely not use such terms. I do not understand why that makes certain people feel better.
[92:51] To stand up for you to the degree that I can.
[93:17] From what I've read, at least much of it, not all of it, but much of it is like you mentioned, like old physics, and you're just plugging in certain numbers. And so to me, the main critique shouldn't be that this is the work of a crackpot. But for me, the main critique would be how does one know that this is even achievable, that there's not some other mechanism that comes into play that stops it. So for example, just because one can write down a spacetime metric like the Schwarzschild metric,
[93:41] it doesn't mean that first the Schwarzschild metric is not physically realizable in the sense that it's sure it's a black hole but it has time symmetry so it doesn't describe a collapse and it also has zero charge like is that realistic and so on so just because i can write a solution same in Newtonian mechanics too by the way most all of Newtonian mechanics is idealized but i'm referring to something as simple as let's put a certain amount of mass such that light can no longer escape like who knows if some other physical law comes into play before that point turns out it does it's gr
[94:10] but that would be my critique would be like my critique would be well who knows if some other mechanism comes into play to stop these numbers from reaching the
[94:20] the amounts that you say, rather than this is the work of an insensate crank who is just trying to bolster his ego and his reputation by claiming to invent a flurry of new products, each of which would be worthy of their own Nobel Prize on their own. So at least that would be my critique. And I don't like the denigration that's put forward to you or to anyone else. And I hope that this podcast can serve to show people that you're not someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
[94:48] I thank you, sir, and I salute you for that. You are one of the few physicists who have said some nice words, some practical words. You're right. This must now be the realm of experiment and careful experimentation of certain of these ideas should be made to see whether this effect does occur or not, rather than use slur and language that's not needed.
[95:16] Now, speaking of experimental tests, is it possible that if someone was to fund you, how much money would it take and how much time would it take for you to produce the effects experimentally, physically? It's physically realizable. Sir, the truth of the matter is my work now that I cannot speak off, I work for the for the federal government, I has nothing to do this work. And whether
[95:46] It would have to be the federal government and some agency that I would never perform such work for a private individual. I apologize for this greatly, but I think there are matters of national security that must be respected. If I am anything at all, call me a crank, call me a shard, call me a crackpot, but sir, I am a patriot. And it stops at that. That's all.
[96:16] I'm not sure of the numbers involved. I'll tell you the truth, I'm more of an engineer, I'd love to call myself a physicist even though I cannot, I do not have the correct pedigree, even though I've dabbled. I'm not an administrator, I'm more of a technical guy and I'd rather stay that way. So I would need a whole team.
[96:45] See, something I'm thinking about is if these were indeed operable, which you're not saying they are, and if the Navy or the US government did indeed believe in them,
[97:10] Then they could easily file it under a secrecy act. They didn't have to make it public. So do you feel like you're so firstly, why do they make it public and is part of the reason because it's a preemptive strike against the possibility of it being one day developed by a competitor? I think my opinion, just look at Rose Cole Hart's book name in plain sight. Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight.
[97:42] What does that mean? Remember, I'm just a lowly podcaster, a failed filmmaker. So explain what that means, please. It's quite possible that no one knows exactly the end effect of all this work. And therefore, why classify it? And even if it was correct and it could lead to all these breakthroughs,
[98:12] Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight because again Who would Do you see any mainstream? Physicists trying to take on the pice effect and trying to prove its validity absolutely not they would rather call me a crank and crackpot and shout and rather than Try to do the experiments and see whether they work or not
[98:40] So it's much easier to call it a work of disinformation and leave it at that. My biggest fear is that certain nefarious elements would pick up on this work and find validity within it. And that's why language was made specifically in those patent applications to deter any such
[99:08] Nefarious elements from proceeding on some of these ideas. Let's just leave it at that. I cannot substantiate what that means. Your viewers are very intelligent, so I know they will pick up on certain things. Okay, I'm not terribly intelligent. So let me ask you a question and then you can choose to answer or not. The way that you describe quantum gravity, sir, speaks against that, volumes. What I'm thinking is
[99:35] See, I'm going through it and I'm trying at least arduously to take it seriously and to wrestle with it and go through the details. And I personally didn't see anything in there that would say to a country who doesn't have our interests at hand, who knows, even if our own government has our own interests at hand, who knows, but you understand what I'm referring to. I didn't see anything in there that would stop them from doing the same investigation that I'm doing. So what are you referring to? What do you mean? Can you talk around it?
[100:03] I left out some of the secret sauce. Okay, now, what do you make when people say, well, there has to be disinformation in it, not just incomplete information, disinformation. I did not write these patent applications and I'm pretty sure the government did not file them in order to create
[100:36] false information. These were written to the physics of the effects that I was following through. That's all. They were not meant to scare off anybody. They're a new window into new opportunities and it's quite possible, again, these have such commercial possibilities
[101:06] They don't need to be weaponized. If indeed the bias effect or the Schwinger effect or whatever you want to call it, if indeed this effect is valid, it could lead to a new world. Why not give it that opportunity?
[101:37] That's all. And I really wanted the Navy to have these, because if any of the contractors, if any of the companies that form the military industrial complex, if any of them have or will come up with these ideas, they will charge the Navy great amounts of money to make them feasible.
[102:07] If the Navy already has them, those prices can be talked down, be alleviated. That's why I actually accepted no royalties for this whatsoever. None. Not one cent. I did it out of pure patriotic duty. And I stand by those words. That's all. Maybe that's why it hurts so much when I'm going to crack
[102:37] I can imagine. How does your family handle that? They stay away from it. They don't get involved. Every now and then my daughter will show me, hey look daddy, this particular person thinks you're okay. That puts a smile on my face.
[103:03] Once this finally goes online, please have your daughter filter out some of the comments to show you. Okay, please don't read them because I'm sure there's quite well you can imagine. I can understand. That's okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So
[103:34] But I would never call those individuals these kind of words. Again, there's no need to be hurtful. We can be quite actually great steps in advances in physics can be done with people that cooperate rather than be offensive to one another. There's no need for hurtful words. Period. I'll leave it at that. Right.
[104:05] So you mentioned Eric Davis. Eric W. Davis. Yes, sir. Dr. Eric W. Davis. What are his comments on your work? From what I know, they're not they're not positive. That's it. So, yeah. Why do you think that is? Do you think because obviously he's an extremely intelligent person. Extremely.
[104:34] And if he believed that this was, I'm getting a bit tired, so forgive me as I... That's quite all right, sir. I'm getting there too. This is heavy physics, I tell you, so yeah, definitely. I mean, he is in a position to judge the veracity of this. Yes. So I would imagine that he would be able to see whether it's true or not. So what do you make of him and his dislogistic comments? I would just say try it experimentally.
[105:04] From what I know, his associate, Dr. Harold Putov, has better things to say about my work. I'll just leave it at that because there's nothing official on that and that's... Hold on, Sal, if you can hear me, I can't see you right now. Hold on, Sal. Oh, boy. So you're saying, from what I know, his associate... Sorry, continue that. Right. From what I know, his associate, Dr. Harold Putov, has better...
[105:32] better ideas of my work. But that's of a private nature, so I cannot go into that. The best thing to do is actually go to Dr. Davis directly and ask him why does he think my work is not worth the paper that's written.
[105:53] I would like to speak to Dr. Eric Davis. I spoke to him briefly over email, just had a couple email exchanges, but nothing substantial. I'd also like to speak to Jack Sarfati, who also has his own ideas as to how these tic tac work. Unfortunately, Dr. Sarfati also does nothing highly. Well, it seems like each person is uncomplimentary to the other. Actually, I think both of their works are very interesting.
[106:22] I think there is value in them both and they should all be given finances to follow their theories. So from my perspective, I think they're worthwhile. It's interesting how both of them think mine is not.
[106:43] It hurts. I'll tell you the truth. I can see that, man. And that alone puts you in a great category that even though you're being criticized, that you're not willing to criticize them, or at least the criticisms will be laid strictly at the work itself rather than the person, and that you still say that, hey, even if I don't think this will work, they should be allowed to explore it and perhaps it should even be funded to explore it. I would never say something I don't think that would work. I think experiment is essential.
[107:13] Improving whether a physical theory is correct or not and if anything fails experiment Then we should look not necessarily Abolish the theory just give up on the theory but see whether there's something we've missed within the theory to make it experimentally verifiable It's too easy to give up on things that I again
[107:43] I think a lot of physicists have given up on philosophy, which is essential. I think physics without philosophy is like a seed without water, fruitless. It's important for physicists to also be philosophers, and I've always tried to have that. This is why I love the work of Professor Carlo Rovelli. I think Professor Carlo Rovelli is also a great philosopher.
[108:11] and there is absolutely no stigma attached to that.
[108:41] He also has a philosophy of things. Sir Roger Penrose is amazing. Dr. Eric Reistein, he had an interview, I'm not sure whether it's recent, maybe a one-year-old interview with Sir Roger Penrose before Sir Roger Penrose won the Nobel Prize on the portal, I believe. It was very interesting. And you can see the admiration in Sir Roger Penrose's eyes of Dr.
[109:09] Again, Dr. Weinstein, his idea of geometric unity. Why must people say nay? Give it a chance, man. I mean, this is what physics should be all about. I can't think of any other reason other than jealousy. I don't know.
[109:36] I've never thought badly of anybody else's work, so I cannot put myself in their shoes and judge. Well, the reason I said that is because I see that in myself. There's so much jealousy in myself and there's so much criticism that I do of other people in my own head. Luckily, I temper it and I try to stay away from it, but I see that quality in myself and so it's
[110:02] I don't see that in you, sir, at all. As a matter of fact, I admire you greatly and I admire the work that you do and I hope Series of Everything podcast stays on forever because it's
[110:30] No, you do a great service to the community. The guests that you've had on are remarkable people with remarkable ideas. I think if your podcast was ever to stop, I don't know what I would do in my free time. I absolutely love it. Well, that's extremely kind of you. Thank you so much. Did you get to watch that podcast with Gross and David Gross and Carlo Rovelli?
[111:00] I have such admiration for both gentlemen, very much so, but at one point in that interview, when the host calls Professor Rovelli a poet or something to do with philosophy, if you can see the expression on Professor Gross's face, I mean, this is a Nobel Prize winner.
[111:29] one of the best physicists. It was an expression of what? Distaste? Contempt? It was more like of something of that nature. It was not something that Professor Gross should be associated with. And I'm pretty sure that he never meant to have that. But for some reason, the host had him, you know, had the... Again, philosophy should have never been divorced from physics.
[111:59] Period. Unfortunately, that divide has been created. And as a result, I think we've lost a great deal in physics. Again, these new ideas, everybody wants new physics. Why not new perspectives on old physics? There's nothing wrong with old physics. Just because those books start spelling musky at times,
[112:28] doesn't mean you should put them away. That's one of the reasons I'm excited to speak with Jack Sarfatti and or his collaborator, Keith Wasner from California State Fullerton, because at least in Jack's words, it's not new physics, it's the same physics just with a just from another perspective. Well, his is from a metamaterials perspective, and then using that to change what is the proportionality factor that's right beside the stress energy tensor. Right.
[112:59] Yes. What is your opinion on why James Sheehy attested to the... Let me make sure I phrase this correctly, please. And I'm so glad that I'm just with you here. I'm terribly not nervous, which I usually am extremely nervous because I feel so comfortable with you.
[113:26] You definitely should. You're one of the best people that I would like to know on a personal level one day. You truly are remarkable. And I hope your podcast brings you great fame, sir. You deserve it. Thank you. I'm not looking for fame, but I know what you mean. Success in some manner. However you want it. You deserve it.
[113:51] Yes, thank you. Thank you. Maybe. Yeah. OK, thank you. If people. OK, now I'm not going to do that. OK, let's see here. Hmm. Yeah, I was essentially there was nothing different than what I was saying, essentially. So the CTO of Naval Aviation Enterprises, James Sheehy, correct? He was at the time. He no longer is.
[114:20] I have no idea. Sure. Why did he at the time personally vouch for the patent for its operability? Maybe it was the passion that I actually showed him. I actually went to the blackboard in his office. It took a great while to get to that level, but I was able to go from fundamentals to show him that it is possible to get such high energy densities. Again, just from the heavy side,
[114:47] Some people say Heaviside-Gibbs version of Maxwell's equation. Let's just say Oliver Heaviside's representation of Maxwell's equations. I was able to convince Dr. Sheehy that these kinds of energy densities are feasible. And if they're feasible and how I was able to show them, then his statements make perfect truth. He was not speaking badly
[115:18] He realized the passion in these ideas and the possibilities that they represented. And he is a great man, sir. If you met him, you'd truly be in awe of this man. He's not just a good man, he's a great man. He's able to listen and he's able to understand
[115:47] what other people would just not even pay attention to. Immediately they will say, no, impossible, rather than consider the conditional possibilities of these so-called seemingly impossible feats. When earlier you were referring to the patents, you mentioned that they were incomplete in some manner.
[116:12] But as far as I know from patent law, they have to have enough information in order for someone to be able to reproduce it reasonably if they had the technical know-how. So does that mean that technically you shouldn't have been patented? Not at all, sure. As far as the way they were enabled, it's perfectly fine because remember that in
[116:39] The whole idea of the Pais effect controlled motion of electrically charged matter from solids to plasma states subjected to accelerated vibration and or accelerate spin via rapid acceleration transients. Now remember that that's always been presented. Of course, the plasma state was never discussed. That's where some of these
[117:10] Anomalies may occur. Just leave it at that. I cannot speak further on the subject. Speaking of anomalies, have you ever encountered any UFOs? Have you had any any experience with the phenomenon? Not sure. Absolutely none. Sometimes I'm not sure whether actually I'm not sure. I was about to say sometimes I wish I had, but now I'm not sure how I would react.
[117:37] Maybe I'll lose control of my faculties, God forbid. I know we're dealing here with a realm of hyper-speculation, but so many people have said that they observe these, even when you look at some of these cave paintings showing objects
[118:07] I mean, you don't need to have a doctorate in physics to start questioning where all these people's liars, where they're acting in concert because many times they're explanation of these. And again, this whole idea of this new UAP office coming into being, these are not mad men. This had congressional representation.
[118:34] These are strong, stable people. If they believe there's something to this, we might just say there isn't. Did you ever build on the research or look at the research of Ning Li, or I don't know how to pronounce this, but Potkin-Lytnov's superconductors? Evgeny Potkletnov. He is very interesting. I read some of his papers. For example, I read the one on impulse generator.
[119:04] and the way that he used these incredibly high voltages, this discharge, I think he used a Marx generator or something of that nature to provide this impuls gravitational wave. Again, if you look at the Pais effect, they never used any of those ideas.
[119:22] Forgive my rudimentary question. Remember, I'm not an engineer. I'm more on the theoretical end, if anything. What's the difference between a pulse and an impulse?
[119:56] I myself would, to me, it sounds the same almost. Maybe an impulse could be the effect of a pulsed action. One could be the effect of the other, possibly. But sometimes I'll tell you the truth, language confuses me. Maybe because English is not my first language. What is your first language?
[120:26] I was born in Romania. I came here when I was 13 and a half years old. And by the way, which means long live the Romanian people, long live Romania, nothing without God. I'm religious, always have been. But mostly since my mother passed away from stage four liver cancer.
[120:56] You need something to strengthen you. Trust me, I know. I pray a whole lot, and I would never try to bring my beliefs to anyone else. I think religion is personal. I shouldn't be left with that. That's all.
[121:28] So you had a transition of work. You went from the Naval Air Systems Command to Naval Strategic Systems Program. And do you like your new position better? Actually, I cannot say exactly where I work now, but I had moved on from the Strategic Systems Programs, the Navy, to the Space Force. Just new opportunities.
[121:57] I'm an engineer, so I like to do practical things. So when I'm presented with a new opportunity, sometimes I pick up and go. Not necessarily with the location of my abode, but with just a new opportunity, new faces, new ideas, new possibilities. That's always intrigued me.
[122:26] Maybe that's why this work spans so many physics domains from condensed matter physics to general relativity to quantum gravity and so forth. So, yeah. I like to learn. I never stop learning. I think when you stop learning, something in you dies or atrophies, you should always be
[122:54] Learning new things. Now, I'm not necessarily saying learn all things in all domains. For example, if I was to go into the medical field, this is why I hold you in tremendous esteem. For example, how you were able to read on the work of Dr. Carl Friston is I do not think I could have read those papers. I barely read them.
[123:24] Thank you. I appreciate it. You're too kind, man. Now, Sal, has something happened behind the scenes that allows you to come forward? Like, what is the reason for you coming forward now rather than before? And when I say coming forward, I mean, at least this is your first time on video. There was only, I think, two images of you prior to this.
[123:54] So in my mind, I'm wondering, is this related to the Nimitz and the disclosure in general? Not at all, sir. The book by Ross Coldheart, again, the chapter 23 in which he basically say, are these patents merely a pathetic bluff to scare off America's rivals? I would not have performed due diligence as an engineer and as a
[124:24] As a person that serves the American people and the federal government, I would have not done my due diligence if I would have just let it just go by the wayside and say, oh, this is baloney, because it is not. A lot of work went into these ideas. A lot of work went into these patent applications. And they're not meant to scare off anyone. They're meant to ask questions and possibly
[124:54] Sal, thank you so much. It's time for me to do my due diligence and go through some of that work in the super force because I still I'm unclear and I need to gain some clarity. So perhaps I can send you some emails and ask you what does this mean? What does that mean for our next conversation to be a bit more illuminating when it comes to quantum gravity in the super force relationship to it? Sure, sir.
[125:22] And please, if you see me not responding right away, it's because I can basically just work on this stuff during weekends. You and I have discussed this previously. I don't want you to take it as an affront. I know it's happened to me. I write emails and nobody answers for weeks and I tell you it's not that I do this because in any way it's an affront to you.
[125:52] I'm extremely busy at my work at this point in time and leave, leave it at that. Yeah. Okay. And also same with myself. If you don't get a response right away, sometimes you may not get a response for about a week or two. Hey, that's dude. It's due to you. Okay. Please don't, don't forget a hyperlink to this. Cause my wife was really interested and said, what what's going on here? So, you know, thank you very much, sir. And I cannot help calling you sir, because it's a term of respect.
[126:22] Thank you Sal.
[126:49] Do you have any message to say goodbye to the audience because we're live and I'll either include it or not depending on what you want?
[127:19] For everyone out there, just cooperate. Cooperate and try to be positive in your thinking. Give people the benefit of the doubt and always experiment on new ideas. And remember, it doesn't have to be new physics, just new perspectives on all physics. There's nothing wrong with all physics. There's nothing wrong with all musky books that should never be thrown in the fire, as they say. That's all. Thank you, sir.
[127:49] My ending note is that there's a misconception about physics that these shifts are when people throw out everything that had come before, but this isn't true. It's mainly whenever there's been well-established theories and there's inconsistencies, then that's an indication that specific changes are needed to be made. And revolutions aren't from someplace where someone found themselves under a tree, where they were by a Mayan temple and now they had this insight.
[128:14] And so it's completely radical. It's usually a conservative element and a radical element. You need both. Not just conservatism, because that's just the way it's been. And not just radical, because at least historically it's never been that. It's a combination of both. So for example, Einstein was extremely conservative. He had a certain set of principles that he wanted to hold on to tightly, even when other people were willing to throw out those principles. So he said, no, no, no, this is what is foundational. And then from there he built his theories.
[128:46] I totally agree with you sir. And just one more thing. Einstein's general relativity formalism is absolutely amazing. And everybody tried to prove Einstein wrong. Think again. This man, he truly is, you know, every now and then these forces of nature are born. I believe Einstein was such a force. Enough said. Okay.
[129:12] Alright, I'm going to end the live stream. Thank you everyone for showing up and this will be edited and placed out in about two to three days or so depending on how much sleep I can get. Okay, take care everyone and Sal, stick around because me and you will talk privately. Absolutely. Right here. Stop the live stream. There we go. Okay, so now no one can see this. Let me make sure about that just so that in case you want to say anything private, it's not. So I'm saying end stream and there we go. Okay, great. That's ending.
[129:43] Okay, so, Sal. Oh, firstly. Yes, sir. No, not not firstly, and Lee, I will make sure that I stopped that audio recording and then you could send me that file. Okay. Well, how how do I send it to you? I'll do I'll do it. I'll do it for you. Okay. Yeah, you do it. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. So let's think. So how does that go for you? tremendous. I mean, you, you're
[130:09] You have some pertinent stuff, some very good practical questions. For example, I got all screwy on the Bose-Einstein condensate.
[130:25] because I know the physics of it. You want me to remove that one part? No, that's quite all right. Let people know that I have deficiency. I'm only human being. I make a lot of mistakes. Certain things I do not know, but I remembered immediately the work of Dr. Wolfram Ketterle and was able to come back and basically that's what it is. It's when electrons march forward and lock step.
[130:54] How you describe that? A giant matter wave. That's exactly how Dr. Kattelay described it in his Nobel Prize-winning work. I forget when, I think 2009. Was that the Bose-Eisner contest? I believe so. It's funny in his email to me, because I, of course, I want to say I complained, but I said, why are the archive gatekeepers so hard on me?
[131:23] said, well, you know, otherwise they would have to publish everything that was sent to them, you know, and, and he was right in that it's, um, it's, and it wasn't condensed matter physics per se, what I was sending. So that's why he, you know, he basically said, I, I rather not, but I have a feeling if I would have insisted he's that kind of person, he's a really nice guy.
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      "text": " Salvatore Pais. Is that correct? Did I pronounce it correctly? Correct, sir. Wow, one of the few to pronounce it right at the mark. Great, great. So Sal, firstly, no need to call me sir. I'm Kurt. I'm your friend. And tell the audience about your story. How did you come to these patents? How did you come to these ideas? And what are these ideas? Well, all right, it's a long story, but"
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      "text": " So in other words, you can lead to something called quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown when you achieve. Yes, I'm so sorry. As an aside for the audience, if you're not following what some of these terms are, don't worry, because as we continue throughout the podcast, I'm going to be stopping Sal at different points to explain certain terms like even simple terms like what is a piezoelectric material? I know it's piezo however people want to pronounce it. What is the superconductor? What is the Cooper pair? What is the stringer limit? And so on and so on."
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      "text": " So this will serve because we're going to have another conversation. This will serve as a prelude to that conversation. Correct, sir. And this is what I love about your podcast. Not only do you have a tremendous ability to understand your guesswork and you really take your time and I've never seen anybody"
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      "text": " as to the work of the guest, which is amazing compared to other podcasts. I chose you and also you mentioned whether on your Rose Goldheart interview, you mentioned if there's any possibility of getting in touch with me. I said, why not just cut the middleman and go directly to you?"
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      "text": " A lot of people say that it was great hubris on my part, but after all it is an original concept and it's so much easier to say the price effect than to say control motion of electrically charged matter from solids to plasma states subjected to blah blah blah blah and all everything that I've said before that gives rise to these high energy densities. Remember with high energy densities you can manipulate locally"
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      "text": " So then I went a different route, but this route is extremely hard because in the invention disclosure process at the Navy, this is quite an arduous process. First of all, you have to apply, you have to speak directly to the patent attorney for NAVAIR. In this case, it was Mr. Mark Glute, one of the best NAVAIR has."
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      "text": " What were some of those finer points that convinced him and what were they in response to? So what were his criticisms? He said there's no way that you can get electric field strengths on the order of 10 to the 18 volts per meter and B fields. So in other words, magnetic flux density terms on the order of 10 to the nine Tesla. Remember that relationship that equals CB that I talked about 10 to the 18th. You know, your C is on the order of 10 to the eight meter per second."
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      "text": " And yes, gravity can be regarded as a force, even though general relativity shows that it is mostly a curvature of space-time structure. Still, we'll talk about the super force later. You have some tremendous points on quantum gravity, and eventually we have to lead into that. But let's stick with the patterns for now."
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      "text": " It's extremely hard for people to accept new ideas. That is the bottom line. You asked a question previously as to why do you think mainstream physics stays away from you?"
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      "text": " Because these ideas, let's call it the Feynman effect. This shows that it is possible to interact with the quantum vacuum to generate such high energies of an electromagnetic nature in this case as to affect the energy densities locally of the space-time continuum."
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      "text": " Great. And we're going to get into detail on that either in this podcast or the next one, because I'm still unclear, even though I've read quite a bit of your work, I'm still unclear what it means to interact with the quantum vacuum and pull out energy. But we can talk about that. Oh, it's not pulling out energy here. This is important to understand. What it does, it actually, it breaks it apart. It creates, for want of a better word, some sort of a black hole in that particular"
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      "text": " So when you look at that formula, you realize that in order to affect the space-time curvature, in order to affect locally your spatial temporal geometrical structure, let's call it that, you must have extremely high T sub mu nu. You have very high energy densities. And how do you obtain that versus this effect that"
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      "text": " Absolutely not, sir. They are not a bluff. A lot of people have called them disinformation. A lot of people have called them disinformation. But if you look closely, the physics is correct. All you have to do is look at it dimensionally and you'll see that that electromagnetic energy fluxes that not only the correct dimensions, but has the correct physics in it. But you realize that, OK,"
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      "text": " It is possible to get these kind of energy densities not by just having very high voltages in the local area, very high electrical charges, but also, for example, very high frequencies of either vibrations or spin. Now to go back to your question on James Sheehy, because that's important, I think this one that's coming up. Go ahead, sir. You are going to ask about Dr. James Sheehy. Yes, he attested that it was operable. Is that correct?"
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      "text": " These are the terms that he used, and I'm not quite sure exactly what he meant by it, but if you look at the physics, again, these are based on the laws of classical electromagnetism. These computers, these devices, this microphone I'm using, none of them would work if it wasn't for the veracity, the validity of the Heaviside version of what we understand now as classical electromagnetics."
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      "text": " This is what he meant. Was he able to test it? As far as I know, there's no such craft out there that's using the Pais effect. We tried to do what's called a high-energy electromagnetic field generator at Pax River. We tried to actually do the experiments. We tried to accelerate a charge in spin up to 100,000 rpm."
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      "text": " Okay, so let's focus in on this one coulomb charge. So I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations here, and let's say we have a capacitance of one Farad, then if we had a sphere, it would have to be larger than the radius of the Earth. Now let's imagine we had a sphere that is one meter, so fairly large but not terrible. To place a one coulomb charge on it, it would have to have a potential of about one gigavolt. Now that's quite a significant amount of potential. So is this feasible? Is this one coulomb charge reasonable? I believe it is."
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      "text": " Yes, I believe it is, but it cannot be your regular. The truth of the matter is you'll never achieve these kind of energy densities with solids, but you can achieve them with plasmas. Now, exactly how that's done, I cannot say on the podcast, because that could represent an issue of national security. And sir, I am a patriot. Can never give away certain"
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      "text": " So what is the difference between spin and vibration? I think it is much easier to achieve very high frequencies of vibration than high frequency of spin because not only again when you deal with spin you cannot have for example discs that are high in diameter say than four inches because"
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      "text": " the centrifugal forces that would break this thing apart, especially at 100,000 rpm. But it is, in my opinion, it's possible to get frequencies of vibration very high, even exceeding 10 to the 8, 1 divided by second, by subjecting it to, for example, pulsed current going through these piezo, however you choose to pronounce"
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      "text": " Let's call them piezoelectric elements. Then it is possible. But remember, pulsed current, because what you need is an accelerated vibration. Okay, so let's break this down. What is a piezoelectric material? A piezoelectric, for example, PCT. It's from lead, zirconate, titanate. It's a composite material. The whole idea is when it's subjected to a voltage,"
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      "text": " It can actually show the formation of the material itself. Or if you expose the material to deformations, stresses and so forth, it gives rise to voltages. So people have used it one way or used it the other way. I use it from the point of view, if you send a current through it, so an electrical charge accelerated through it, then you get these very high frequencies of vibration. This is how I use piezoelectrics."
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      "text": " People can understand it with their phones, the fact that you can press and that your phone registers it is because there's a piezoelectric material there or no? Sure, why not? Yes, it is quite possible that the piezoelectrics are used in many components, many devices. So yes, absolutely. OK, in other words, just to reiterate, it's you apply pressure and then there's a charge. Is it a charge or there's a voltage? There's a voltage."
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      "text": " Okay, so piezo is a relationship between applying pressure and then an increase in voltage. Yes, or in this case applying a current"
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      "text": " Vibration of the composite itself, you can actually see this thing vibrate once you put a current through it."
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      "text": " I think frequency, if I remember correctly, something to do is like the frequency of vibration is on the order of 1 divided by square root of LC where L is your induction, C is your capacitance of whatever circuit you have. That's a common formula for it. But this is how you get vibration from these elements by passing a current through it."
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      "text": " And in this case you don't just pass a constant current, you pass a pulse current. Okay, now what is the difference between those two? Because that would accelerate the frequency of vibration. That would bring in this non-linearity in angular frequency of either spin or vibration. Remember that I spoke of the magnitude of the pointing vector being the electromagnetic. Now is that because it resonates? Yes, yes, yes."
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      "text": " that as well because what's resonance after all? That's an amplification of energy."
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      "text": " Okay, so is one way to understand this like there's this famous video of a bridge that's wobbling and it's because of the wind and the wind happens to be at the frequency of the bridge. So if we were to just apply that wind straight without any oscillations in the wind, then the bridge wouldn't oscillate so much. It's almost like the wind is pulsing and you're saying something similar is going on where you pulsate some piezoelectric material with electricity at some resonant frequency and you increase this frequency of vibration, right?"
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      "text": " If you look carefully at the equations that I use to generate the magnitude of the pointing vector, which is really the high energy electromagnetic energy flux."
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      "text": " And remember that that EM energy flux, it's really C times your energy in it. Again, see the speed of light times the, well, in this case would be epsilon zero E square, where E is your electric field strength. So your electromagnetic energy flux is really C times the energy density."
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      "text": " So that's how the two are related. That's why I say 10 to the 33 watts per meter square is commensurate with the 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube. That's an energy density. And that brings about this effect of quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown."
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      "text": " That can actually be found in a great book. It's an AIAA publication, I believe by, is it Mark Millis and Eric W. Davis, Dr. Davis, Dr. Eric Davis, known for other things as well. They actually, I think they were the two main editors for this book, a great book called Foundations or Frontiers of Advanced Physics."
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      "text": " I'm not sure exactly the name of the book, but yeah, Mark Millis and Eric W. Davis, they edited this book. Frontiers of Propulsion Science. Thank you, sir. That's it. And in it, they speak of this ability to have quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown based on this idea of getting energy densities on the order of 10 to the 25 joules per meter cube. If you can do that,"
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      "text": " And how do you do that? By using the Pais effect or the Feynman effect. That's however you choose to call it. Okay, getting back to this question of whether or not... Or maybe we should call it the Schwinger effect. Yeah, well the Schwinger effect already has a name. So this breakdown of the quantum vacuum that you keep referring to, is that related to the Schwinger effect, the creation? Yes, yes, because"
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      "text": " It is Schwinger, again, Schwinger, Tomonaga and Feynman received the Nobel Prize for quantum electrodynamics. Now, Schwinger, Julian Schwinger, he came up, he basically said, if we can get electric field strengths on the order of 10 to the 18 volts per meter, which is, which would mean magnetic induction B fields on the order of 10 to the nine Tesla,"
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      "text": " then we could actually get quantum electrodynamic vacuum breakdown. So what you could actually do, imagine a rip in the space-time continuum. So basically whatever you generate this energy density with would be sucked, for lack of a better word, into"
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      "text": " This condition vacuum, it's no longer your regular quantum, it's like a void within the vacuum. Okay. And then what are the implications of that? What happens after that? A lot of, it's quite possible that a very anomalous physical phenomena, for example, new methods of transport, you never have this idea of your regular propulsion ideas."
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      "text": " You no longer have to implement, for example, Newton's third law. They would move more, this craft would move more like these UAPs than they... In the Schwinger effect, there's also, as soon as the Schwinger effect comes into effect, and by the way, it's not been shown because no one's been able to generate this. This is theoretical or hypothetical. It also causes a decay of the electric field itself. So does that mean you have to continually supply an electric field? Yes, absolutely."
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      "text": " It's while the device is operational that this once the device stops, you go back to your regular quantum vacuum and you're back. Again, nobody has generated this 10 to the 33 watts per meter square. I believe the bias effect can be used to generate that using plasmas. Exactly how I cannot say on this podcast, but I believe that is possible. So yes,"
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      "text": " Okay. I just use electrically charged solids because it is easier to explain. And you're right, it is not easy to obtain a one coulomb electrical charge. It is extremely hard. We're getting some of the preliminaries out of the way. So how about we talk about what the Gertzen's gene effect is? Because that will come up plenty. Sure, sir. Think of the Gertzenstein, the best way of thinking of it, it's a way to generate high frequency gravitational waves."
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      "text": " I believe the original paper was somewhere in the Soviet Union in 1960. What he does is he uses nested electromagnetic fields to generate high frequency gravitational waves. An electromagnetic field confined within another."
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      "text": " And the way I use it, I basically generate the Pais effect both within the interior, the internal electromagnetic field and the outer electromagnetic field. You can refer to my patent, actually, and this is very interesting. The craft using an inertial mass reduction device"
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      "text": " It took a great deal of doing, a lot of work to get it through examination. The high frequency gravitational wave generator was a first office allowance, which is amazing for such a highly advanced and highly controversial subject matter."
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      "text": " Okay, the Goodsenstein effect theoretically can be used to generate high frequency gravitational waves. If you can generate high frequency gravitational waves, again, what do you do? You can alter the space-time continuum in proximity of your craft. So it would move like these UAPs move for lack of a better analogy. So do you feel like these UAPs are operating under this principle?"
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      "text": " I am not certain, but it is quite feasible. Yes, it's feasible. I'll restate what the Gerstenstein effect is. If you have a strong magnetic field and you pass an electromagnetic field through that B field, then you can generate, it's like a conversion. You can change from EM waves to gravitational waves. Now gravitational waves, Weigel has only found them from black holes merging. Low frequency, remember."
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      "text": " These are high frequency gravitation. So is LIGO or is anyone else looking for high frequency gravitational waves? Because a question that pops into my mind is if these crafts are operating by that principle, then we should be able to observe high frequency waves. We should be able to observe it with LIGO or some other experimental setup. That is a very good point. I believe LIGO cannot detect the high frequency gravitational waves. If someone can show that is erroneous, I stand corrected."
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      "text": " But as far as I know, they detect low frequency gravitation waves. So it is quite possible that LIGO would not pick up these hypothetical craft. OK, we're going to get into a bit of the details here. So on screen, you can see this, but I'll place this into the podcast once it's edited. But perhaps I could show you here. The image that I'll be showing is that."
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      "text": " Oh yes, that's the Kraft using an inertial mass reduction device, right. Okay, so let's go through this. These microwave emitters, what are they doing? What they use for is to generate high frequency vibration of the plasma. Remember there's like a xenon plasma and that affects the outer"
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      "text": " Forgive me if I retread the same ground repeatedly. It's just how I'm understanding it. I want to make sure that I'm not misunderstanding anything."
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      "text": " Okay, so we have this craft here. And there is plasma where the plasma is. See where these waves are. This is like a, it's like a fluorescent how there's a fluorescent tube in this hollow and that's filled with a plasma, or we'll make it into a plasma. So is that there's some plasma inside the walls of a craft."
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      "text": " Right. Okay, so there's some plasma and then the microwave emitters are there in order to accelerate their vibrational frequency. Yes, you need that in order to get these high frequencies of vibration. Now exactly, exactly how you'd make sure that the plasma does not contact the walls. That's I cannot talk on this podcast. Hear that sound."
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      "text": " Over here, it says it's dielectric liner. Can you explain what that is, a dielectric liner? It would make sure that the electrical charge is basically a boundary for the electrical charge."
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      "text": " Electrical charge cannot pass that. It's like an insulator. That's what the dielectric boundary is. And these microwave emitters, once they're turned on after some time, I don't know how long, then it will induce the Schwinger effect? It will induce the frequencies that you need to achieve the Schwinger effect with. Remember the whole idea of the Schwinger effect is to break down the quantum vacuum."
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      "text": " which would mean to create discontinuities in your space-time so-called continuum. And once you achieve these so-called voids within the vacuum, then the craft can be sucked into that area of, I believe Dr. David Froning, or I'm not sure whether, yes, Dr. Froning spoke of it as a conditioned vacuum, if you refer to his work, David Froning."
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      "text": " I think he goes by his middle name somehow, but his last name is Froning and he speaks of it as a condition vacuum whereby you can facilitate the movement of these inertially reduced grafts."
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      "text": " I do believe his last name is Froning. I think it's spelled F-R-O-N-I-N-G, Froning. Another effect that you should go over is the Prigogine effect, if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Oh, the Prigogine effect, yes. Ilya Prigogine, I believe 1977 Nobel Prize winner in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. The idea that if you have a nonlinear medium,"
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      "text": " which could be a plasma, again. If you inject electromagnetic energy into it and then you somehow injected a source to drive the plasma far from equilibrium, then it is possible that these plasmas will self-organize, thereby giving rise to what's called the pregorgene effect."
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      "text": " I'm not quite sure if anybody refers to it as the Prigogine effect, but he talks a bit in his Nobel Prize lecture. I think it's called time structure and fluctuations. It was given at Stockholm in 1977 upon receipt of his Nobel Prize in non-equilibrium thermodynamics. You can actually see he talks about this idea"
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      "text": " in the form of, I believe he talks about Bernard cells. Bernard cells, it's a fluid dynamic phenomena that occurs when you have a certain layer of oil over a heated plate and how eventually these chaotic, seemingly chaotic cells eventually self-organize into these beautiful, almost I think hexagonal shapes and hence the Prigogine effect. And it can, again,"
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      "text": " What's meant by nonlinear medium?"
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      "text": " The nonlinear medium would be a medium in which your energy is quite possible would resonate, will be amplified if added. It will no longer be incrementally amplified. It will be nonlinear. So the effect would be parabolic. For example, again, the idea of instead of omega, omega square, like you find in the pice of it. Yeah."
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      "text": " That's what I mean by nonlinear medium. Okay, so the nonlinear medium is the plasma and that's inside the resonant cavity of this craft and that is resonating because of the microwaves. Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. Because you and as you add as you as you accelerate in frequency of these exactly how how these frequencies are accelerated. I cannot speak on the podcast, but"
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      "text": " It is feasible to get this omega square effect rather than your regular linear omega. Because, again, we're trying to counterbalance this Q square term, this charge square term, because you don't, again, it's hard to get that one coulomb of charge as you yourself have remarked. But it is much, much better to get these high frequencies"
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      "text": " using either piezoelectrics or plasmas under certain structure. Now forgive me if I'm taking a while to come up with questions only because I'm going through my notes and there's so much actually for most people I have them all on one page but for you they're scattered amongst maybe six documents here yes and either way I'm not I'm not terribly concerned because I"
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      "text": " We're going to be editing this and it'll be pristine once it's finally put up. So for the few people who are watching, you're going to have to bear with my ineptitude and habitude. Okay, so let's see here. And my diatribe. Okay, while I'm coming up with mainly a clarificatory question, do you have any questions for do you have any comments or clarification?"
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      "text": " It would be great if I know that you have background in theoretical physics. Could you, for example, because eventually I want to talk about this idea of the super force, the force of unification, could you go into the idea of quantum gravity and speak on it? Because I know you're quite knowledgeable in this area. Sure. So how about this will take about four and a half minutes, maybe five and a half minutes or so. It's just that I haven't seen any explanation of why quantum gravity is a particularly tough"
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      "text": " By the way, why I say this is that you've had a tremendous podcast with Professor Carlo Rovelli who are greatly, greatly holding great esteem just like I hold Professor Stefan Alexander very much in great esteem. I wish he had responded to my emails on the super force but that's another matter."
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      "text": " Carlo Rovelli, he spoke of this new book, I think it was published in 22, by Professor Jacom, he goes by Jay Armas of the University of Amsterdam. Conversations on Quantum Gravity. That is exactly it, sir. And if you can take it away, please do."
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      "text": " In classical gravity, there are a couple of principles that are held as sacred. You have them as assumptions. These assumptions are motivated, but they're somewhat, they're assumptions. So general covariance, that's a technical term. You can look this up. Locality. And locality, what that means is that your Lagrangian at any point depends only on that point and then the derivatives at that point, rather than this point and then some point that's far away. And then you also have a third assumption, which is that you don't have a dependency on derivatives of order three or greater. You also have"
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      "text": " on all spacetimes such that you can say that they're all equal in some way and it's not quite apparent how to do that. Okay, anyway, one of the problems with quantum gravity is getting back to our known laws, because you have to cross many scales, there's like 10 to the 40 scales, either the order of the order is about correct, and in condensed matter physics, you know what spacetime is, you know what it means for an atom to be in a particular place."
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      "text": " In gravity in general, whenever you're trying to quantize it, you study vacuum equations, which means you remove all the matter. And in 3D gravity, it turns out that the Ricci tensor is zero. And then that means that the Riemann tensor is zero, which means that it's locally flat, which means that it's a topological field theory. And what that means is that it's extremely well-behaved and it's nice to study. You can deform spacetime and correlation functions aren't affected."
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      "text": " Okay, now how do we go about quantizing gravity? So here's one way, and this is the approach of loop quantum gravity. It's that you remove all the matter, because you generally want to study vacuum equations, and then you take a surface, and then you set that surface at t equals zero, and then that surface has to be a Cauchy surface. So there's so many technical requirements here, and a Cauchy surface is not kosher, although it's kosher to be Cauchy."
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      "text": " It's a technical requirement to be Cauchy. Then you make a manifold into a Poisson manifold. Okay, so how do you do that? Well, you place a Poisson algebra. Now, the reason why I'm saying all of this, it's so baroque and esoteric, most people, their eyes are glazing over, is because firstly, many people are somewhat lied to by these people who are popularizers of science, by them speaking down to the audience and simplifying, overly simplifying it. And I feel like for 30 years, the public has been mystified by wave particle duality. And that needs to"
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      "text": " needs to go away yeah wave-particle duality is it's not that something is a wave and a particle it's a quantum mechanical object and it's something different well anyway so i'm speaking with these intricate terms so that people who are interested can then look it up by the way this is called canonical QG but it's a non-canonical choice of a because you chose a slice and now you understand it okay what is a Poisson algebra Poisson algebra is a Lie algebra that's associated with the derivation okay now you understand it classically"
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      "text": " Now, classically, you have Q and P, which are like phase space, and that's understood as a member of a cotangent bundle over the space of positions. So then what you want is a Hilbert space that has the same commutation relations, but with operators on a Hilbert space. So then for QG, you think, OK, how about instead of a cotangent bundle over R3, which is classical mechanics, you take a cotangent bundle over the space of solutions of Einstein's equations,"
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      "text": " Constraints and then constraints play a role because I know this gets a bit Baroque, but I'm almost at the point technical constraints There's a tricky role with them because let's say you have r2 and then let's say you want a particle to be restricted to the y-axis on r2 Well, what you can do is you can set x equal to zero. Sure. Okay, but then what do you do with the momentum? Do you set momentum equal to zero? It turns out that you shouldn't do it like that what you have to do is you have to mod out by px"
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      "text": " is equivalent to px plus a constant and that's called a Poisson reduction and so there are many different small but extremely technical reasons why one can't simply make a superficial quantizing of gravity and then you also have to mod out by phase space except phase space in this space"
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      "text": " I hope you do not cut any of it, sir. Dr. Eric Weinstein and Sir Roger Penrose would be extremely proud of what you just said. More people should explain quantum gravity this way, not just anyway, the way it's done."
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      "text": " And you can just see by rearranging the terms of the equation that that's exactly what's saying. Not only that, if you look carefully at the Bekenstein-Hawking formulation for entropy of a black hole, C to the fourth divided by big G also features in that because your entropy of a black hole would be given as H bar divide, actually K sub B, which is the Boltzmann constant, divided by H bar C"
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      "text": " Which is non-Planckian in nature acts as the bridge between the world of the very large and the world of the very small. And it exists at the Planck scale at every point in space and time. Okay, so help me understand. What does it mean when you say that it acts on it? So firstly, let me make this clear. When you say super force, you're referring to the Planck force."
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      "text": " And people can look at what the Planck force is. Yes. Okay. Yes. And then secondly, when you say act on it. So let's imagine we have G equals K times T and forget about G is Einstein. Forget. I'm just making up some variables. I could have said X equals K times Y. I wouldn't say K is acting on Y, but you're saying K is acting on Y in that case. So what does that mean? To me? I see that as a proportionality constant. So as like a conversion factor."
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      "text": " Your energy density, hence matter. So I believe it is the super force that generates matter based on whatever that space-time geometric curvature local in that particular domain is. So you could actually have a different idea of what, it's just remarkable what Einstein has come up with."
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      "text": " If you just restructure it, you see a whole different meaning of this formula. And it says it is the super force acting on the space-time geometric structure that gives rise to energy density, hence matter. That is interesting, I think. It's new, anyway. It's just a new way of looking. It's just a new perspective on old physics."
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      "text": " okay so let me state it in my words and see if this aligns with what you're saying yes sir okay so traditionally in einstein's equations you have g which which colloquially is spacetime and so geometry and then on the right side there's t which is the stress energy tensor which is thought of as the matter now these are coupled but you can think of it as geometry and then"
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      "text": " Did ball lightning inform your work with plasma? I cannot say it did. That's a very good question. What informed it was this idea of considering the Heaviside version of Maxwell's equation and this idea that you can get these extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes."
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      "text": " You hear people talk about orbs in the UFO circles. Do you believe these to be related to ball lightning or some form of plasma? I quite believe that there are forms of plasma. Yes, sir. It speaks. It speaks to this idea of quantum electrodynamic vacuum by breakdown, because once you achieve these effects, all these anomalies can be present. Yes, I do believe that's possible."
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      "text": " Look, let's say it's 10 to the 18, and then you divide by R squared, and then you just say, well, look, can I feel if something at some part of the planet is generating this Schwinger effect, I should be able to feel it at some other part of the planet drastically. So firstly, is that correct? I would not know. I've never generated those kind of energy densities. I would not know. Based on fall off by R squared. My opinion is that it generates this in the proxy. It's a local effect."
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      "text": " So it generates it in proximity of the craft. So it does not, it doesn't bleed out somehow. Yes, exactly. It's, it, it becomes, um, it's as if it's a break. It's a break in the space-time continuum. It's as if, again, you generate it a void within the quantum vacuum. There's absolutely nothing at that point."
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      "text": " You know how there's like loss in criterion for the superconductors? Yes. Is there something else that talks about how damp it would be? Like how far it would have to be before it starts to fade off rapidly, even greater than R squared? I have absolutely no clue. I've done no further work on this than I've already done. And as far as I know, nobody's picked up on it because everybody thinks again, these are the ideas of a crackpot. And some people have called me what? A charlatan, a crank."
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      "text": " I've been called many names. How does that make you feel? It's hard. I will tell you the truth because I used, again, all physics and just regular dimensional analysis actually over rather simplistic nature to generate these formalisms. And why would people, you know, why must they denigrate other individuals"
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      "text": " I would never do it. Absolutely not. I would try, for example, to see whether it's experimentally feasible. And even if that person is proven false, I would definitely not use such terms. I do not understand why that makes certain people feel better."
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      "text": " To stand up for you to the degree that I can."
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      "text": " From what I've read, at least much of it, not all of it, but much of it is like you mentioned, like old physics, and you're just plugging in certain numbers. And so to me, the main critique shouldn't be that this is the work of a crackpot. But for me, the main critique would be how does one know that this is even achievable, that there's not some other mechanism that comes into play that stops it. So for example, just because one can write down a spacetime metric like the Schwarzschild metric,"
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      "text": " it doesn't mean that first the Schwarzschild metric is not physically realizable in the sense that it's sure it's a black hole but it has time symmetry so it doesn't describe a collapse and it also has zero charge like is that realistic and so on so just because i can write a solution same in Newtonian mechanics too by the way most all of Newtonian mechanics is idealized but i'm referring to something as simple as let's put a certain amount of mass such that light can no longer escape like who knows if some other physical law comes into play before that point turns out it does it's gr"
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      "text": " but that would be my critique would be like my critique would be well who knows if some other mechanism comes into play to stop these numbers from reaching the"
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      "text": " the amounts that you say, rather than this is the work of an insensate crank who is just trying to bolster his ego and his reputation by claiming to invent a flurry of new products, each of which would be worthy of their own Nobel Prize on their own. So at least that would be my critique. And I don't like the denigration that's put forward to you or to anyone else. And I hope that this podcast can serve to show people that you're not someone who doesn't know what they're talking about."
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      "text": " I thank you, sir, and I salute you for that. You are one of the few physicists who have said some nice words, some practical words. You're right. This must now be the realm of experiment and careful experimentation of certain of these ideas should be made to see whether this effect does occur or not, rather than use slur and language that's not needed."
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      "text": " Now, speaking of experimental tests, is it possible that if someone was to fund you, how much money would it take and how much time would it take for you to produce the effects experimentally, physically? It's physically realizable. Sir, the truth of the matter is my work now that I cannot speak off, I work for the for the federal government, I has nothing to do this work. And whether"
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      "text": " It would have to be the federal government and some agency that I would never perform such work for a private individual. I apologize for this greatly, but I think there are matters of national security that must be respected. If I am anything at all, call me a crank, call me a shard, call me a crackpot, but sir, I am a patriot. And it stops at that. That's all."
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      "text": " I'm not sure of the numbers involved. I'll tell you the truth, I'm more of an engineer, I'd love to call myself a physicist even though I cannot, I do not have the correct pedigree, even though I've dabbled. I'm not an administrator, I'm more of a technical guy and I'd rather stay that way. So I would need a whole team."
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      "text": " See, something I'm thinking about is if these were indeed operable, which you're not saying they are, and if the Navy or the US government did indeed believe in them,"
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      "text": " Then they could easily file it under a secrecy act. They didn't have to make it public. So do you feel like you're so firstly, why do they make it public and is part of the reason because it's a preemptive strike against the possibility of it being one day developed by a competitor? I think my opinion, just look at Rose Cole Hart's book name in plain sight. Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight."
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      "text": " What does that mean? Remember, I'm just a lowly podcaster, a failed filmmaker. So explain what that means, please. It's quite possible that no one knows exactly the end effect of all this work. And therefore, why classify it? And even if it was correct and it could lead to all these breakthroughs,"
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      "text": " Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight because again Who would Do you see any mainstream? Physicists trying to take on the pice effect and trying to prove its validity absolutely not they would rather call me a crank and crackpot and shout and rather than Try to do the experiments and see whether they work or not"
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      "text": " So it's much easier to call it a work of disinformation and leave it at that. My biggest fear is that certain nefarious elements would pick up on this work and find validity within it. And that's why language was made specifically in those patent applications to deter any such"
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      "text": " Nefarious elements from proceeding on some of these ideas. Let's just leave it at that. I cannot substantiate what that means. Your viewers are very intelligent, so I know they will pick up on certain things. Okay, I'm not terribly intelligent. So let me ask you a question and then you can choose to answer or not. The way that you describe quantum gravity, sir, speaks against that, volumes. What I'm thinking is"
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      "text": " See, I'm going through it and I'm trying at least arduously to take it seriously and to wrestle with it and go through the details. And I personally didn't see anything in there that would say to a country who doesn't have our interests at hand, who knows, even if our own government has our own interests at hand, who knows, but you understand what I'm referring to. I didn't see anything in there that would stop them from doing the same investigation that I'm doing. So what are you referring to? What do you mean? Can you talk around it?"
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      "text": " I left out some of the secret sauce. Okay, now, what do you make when people say, well, there has to be disinformation in it, not just incomplete information, disinformation. I did not write these patent applications and I'm pretty sure the government did not file them in order to create"
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      "text": " false information. These were written to the physics of the effects that I was following through. That's all. They were not meant to scare off anybody. They're a new window into new opportunities and it's quite possible, again, these have such commercial possibilities"
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      "text": " They don't need to be weaponized. If indeed the bias effect or the Schwinger effect or whatever you want to call it, if indeed this effect is valid, it could lead to a new world. Why not give it that opportunity?"
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      "text": " That's all. And I really wanted the Navy to have these, because if any of the contractors, if any of the companies that form the military industrial complex, if any of them have or will come up with these ideas, they will charge the Navy great amounts of money to make them feasible."
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      "text": " If the Navy already has them, those prices can be talked down, be alleviated. That's why I actually accepted no royalties for this whatsoever. None. Not one cent. I did it out of pure patriotic duty. And I stand by those words. That's all. Maybe that's why it hurts so much when I'm going to crack"
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      "text": " I can imagine. How does your family handle that? They stay away from it. They don't get involved. Every now and then my daughter will show me, hey look daddy, this particular person thinks you're okay. That puts a smile on my face."
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      "text": " Once this finally goes online, please have your daughter filter out some of the comments to show you. Okay, please don't read them because I'm sure there's quite well you can imagine. I can understand. That's okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So"
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      "text": " But I would never call those individuals these kind of words. Again, there's no need to be hurtful. We can be quite actually great steps in advances in physics can be done with people that cooperate rather than be offensive to one another. There's no need for hurtful words. Period. I'll leave it at that. Right."
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      "text": " So you mentioned Eric Davis. Eric W. Davis. Yes, sir. Dr. Eric W. Davis. What are his comments on your work? From what I know, they're not they're not positive. That's it. So, yeah. Why do you think that is? Do you think because obviously he's an extremely intelligent person. Extremely."
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      "text": " And if he believed that this was, I'm getting a bit tired, so forgive me as I... That's quite all right, sir. I'm getting there too. This is heavy physics, I tell you, so yeah, definitely. I mean, he is in a position to judge the veracity of this. Yes. So I would imagine that he would be able to see whether it's true or not. So what do you make of him and his dislogistic comments? I would just say try it experimentally."
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      "text": " From what I know, his associate, Dr. Harold Putov, has better things to say about my work. I'll just leave it at that because there's nothing official on that and that's... Hold on, Sal, if you can hear me, I can't see you right now. Hold on, Sal. Oh, boy. So you're saying, from what I know, his associate... Sorry, continue that. Right. From what I know, his associate, Dr. Harold Putov, has better..."
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    {
      "end_time": 6352.176,
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      "text": " better ideas of my work. But that's of a private nature, so I cannot go into that. The best thing to do is actually go to Dr. Davis directly and ask him why does he think my work is not worth the paper that's written."
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      "text": " I would like to speak to Dr. Eric Davis. I spoke to him briefly over email, just had a couple email exchanges, but nothing substantial. I'd also like to speak to Jack Sarfati, who also has his own ideas as to how these tic tac work. Unfortunately, Dr. Sarfati also does nothing highly. Well, it seems like each person is uncomplimentary to the other. Actually, I think both of their works are very interesting."
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      "text": " I think there is value in them both and they should all be given finances to follow their theories. So from my perspective, I think they're worthwhile. It's interesting how both of them think mine is not."
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      "text": " It hurts. I'll tell you the truth. I can see that, man. And that alone puts you in a great category that even though you're being criticized, that you're not willing to criticize them, or at least the criticisms will be laid strictly at the work itself rather than the person, and that you still say that, hey, even if I don't think this will work, they should be allowed to explore it and perhaps it should even be funded to explore it. I would never say something I don't think that would work. I think experiment is essential."
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      "text": " Improving whether a physical theory is correct or not and if anything fails experiment Then we should look not necessarily Abolish the theory just give up on the theory but see whether there's something we've missed within the theory to make it experimentally verifiable It's too easy to give up on things that I again"
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      "text": " I think a lot of physicists have given up on philosophy, which is essential. I think physics without philosophy is like a seed without water, fruitless. It's important for physicists to also be philosophers, and I've always tried to have that. This is why I love the work of Professor Carlo Rovelli. I think Professor Carlo Rovelli is also a great philosopher."
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      "text": " and there is absolutely no stigma attached to that."
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      "text": " He also has a philosophy of things. Sir Roger Penrose is amazing. Dr. Eric Reistein, he had an interview, I'm not sure whether it's recent, maybe a one-year-old interview with Sir Roger Penrose before Sir Roger Penrose won the Nobel Prize on the portal, I believe. It was very interesting. And you can see the admiration in Sir Roger Penrose's eyes of Dr."
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      "text": " Again, Dr. Weinstein, his idea of geometric unity. Why must people say nay? Give it a chance, man. I mean, this is what physics should be all about. I can't think of any other reason other than jealousy. I don't know."
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      "text": " I've never thought badly of anybody else's work, so I cannot put myself in their shoes and judge. Well, the reason I said that is because I see that in myself. There's so much jealousy in myself and there's so much criticism that I do of other people in my own head. Luckily, I temper it and I try to stay away from it, but I see that quality in myself and so it's"
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      "text": " I don't see that in you, sir, at all. As a matter of fact, I admire you greatly and I admire the work that you do and I hope Series of Everything podcast stays on forever because it's"
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      "text": " No, you do a great service to the community. The guests that you've had on are remarkable people with remarkable ideas. I think if your podcast was ever to stop, I don't know what I would do in my free time. I absolutely love it. Well, that's extremely kind of you. Thank you so much. Did you get to watch that podcast with Gross and David Gross and Carlo Rovelli?"
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      "text": " I have such admiration for both gentlemen, very much so, but at one point in that interview, when the host calls Professor Rovelli a poet or something to do with philosophy, if you can see the expression on Professor Gross's face, I mean, this is a Nobel Prize winner."
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      "text": " one of the best physicists. It was an expression of what? Distaste? Contempt? It was more like of something of that nature. It was not something that Professor Gross should be associated with. And I'm pretty sure that he never meant to have that. But for some reason, the host had him, you know, had the... Again, philosophy should have never been divorced from physics."
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      "text": " Period. Unfortunately, that divide has been created. And as a result, I think we've lost a great deal in physics. Again, these new ideas, everybody wants new physics. Why not new perspectives on old physics? There's nothing wrong with old physics. Just because those books start spelling musky at times,"
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      "text": " doesn't mean you should put them away. That's one of the reasons I'm excited to speak with Jack Sarfatti and or his collaborator, Keith Wasner from California State Fullerton, because at least in Jack's words, it's not new physics, it's the same physics just with a just from another perspective. Well, his is from a metamaterials perspective, and then using that to change what is the proportionality factor that's right beside the stress energy tensor. Right."
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      "text": " Yes. What is your opinion on why James Sheehy attested to the... Let me make sure I phrase this correctly, please. And I'm so glad that I'm just with you here. I'm terribly not nervous, which I usually am extremely nervous because I feel so comfortable with you."
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      "text": " You definitely should. You're one of the best people that I would like to know on a personal level one day. You truly are remarkable. And I hope your podcast brings you great fame, sir. You deserve it. Thank you. I'm not looking for fame, but I know what you mean. Success in some manner. However you want it. You deserve it."
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      "text": " Yes, thank you. Thank you. Maybe. Yeah. OK, thank you. If people. OK, now I'm not going to do that. OK, let's see here. Hmm. Yeah, I was essentially there was nothing different than what I was saying, essentially. So the CTO of Naval Aviation Enterprises, James Sheehy, correct? He was at the time. He no longer is."
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      "text": " I have no idea. Sure. Why did he at the time personally vouch for the patent for its operability? Maybe it was the passion that I actually showed him. I actually went to the blackboard in his office. It took a great while to get to that level, but I was able to go from fundamentals to show him that it is possible to get such high energy densities. Again, just from the heavy side,"
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      "text": " Some people say Heaviside-Gibbs version of Maxwell's equation. Let's just say Oliver Heaviside's representation of Maxwell's equations. I was able to convince Dr. Sheehy that these kinds of energy densities are feasible. And if they're feasible and how I was able to show them, then his statements make perfect truth. He was not speaking badly"
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      "text": " He realized the passion in these ideas and the possibilities that they represented. And he is a great man, sir. If you met him, you'd truly be in awe of this man. He's not just a good man, he's a great man. He's able to listen and he's able to understand"
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      "text": " what other people would just not even pay attention to. Immediately they will say, no, impossible, rather than consider the conditional possibilities of these so-called seemingly impossible feats. When earlier you were referring to the patents, you mentioned that they were incomplete in some manner."
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      "text": " But as far as I know from patent law, they have to have enough information in order for someone to be able to reproduce it reasonably if they had the technical know-how. So does that mean that technically you shouldn't have been patented? Not at all, sure. As far as the way they were enabled, it's perfectly fine because remember that in"
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      "text": " The whole idea of the Pais effect controlled motion of electrically charged matter from solids to plasma states subjected to accelerated vibration and or accelerate spin via rapid acceleration transients. Now remember that that's always been presented. Of course, the plasma state was never discussed. That's where some of these"
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      "text": " Anomalies may occur. Just leave it at that. I cannot speak further on the subject. Speaking of anomalies, have you ever encountered any UFOs? Have you had any any experience with the phenomenon? Not sure. Absolutely none. Sometimes I'm not sure whether actually I'm not sure. I was about to say sometimes I wish I had, but now I'm not sure how I would react."
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      "text": " Maybe I'll lose control of my faculties, God forbid. I know we're dealing here with a realm of hyper-speculation, but so many people have said that they observe these, even when you look at some of these cave paintings showing objects"
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      "text": " I mean, you don't need to have a doctorate in physics to start questioning where all these people's liars, where they're acting in concert because many times they're explanation of these. And again, this whole idea of this new UAP office coming into being, these are not mad men. This had congressional representation."
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      "text": " These are strong, stable people. If they believe there's something to this, we might just say there isn't. Did you ever build on the research or look at the research of Ning Li, or I don't know how to pronounce this, but Potkin-Lytnov's superconductors? Evgeny Potkletnov. He is very interesting. I read some of his papers. For example, I read the one on impulse generator."
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      "text": " and the way that he used these incredibly high voltages, this discharge, I think he used a Marx generator or something of that nature to provide this impuls gravitational wave. Again, if you look at the Pais effect, they never used any of those ideas."
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      "text": " Forgive my rudimentary question. Remember, I'm not an engineer. I'm more on the theoretical end, if anything. What's the difference between a pulse and an impulse?"
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      "text": " I myself would, to me, it sounds the same almost. Maybe an impulse could be the effect of a pulsed action. One could be the effect of the other, possibly. But sometimes I'll tell you the truth, language confuses me. Maybe because English is not my first language. What is your first language?"
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      "text": " I was born in Romania. I came here when I was 13 and a half years old. And by the way, which means long live the Romanian people, long live Romania, nothing without God. I'm religious, always have been. But mostly since my mother passed away from stage four liver cancer."
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    {
      "end_time": 7285.077,
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      "text": " You need something to strengthen you. Trust me, I know. I pray a whole lot, and I would never try to bring my beliefs to anyone else. I think religion is personal. I shouldn't be left with that. That's all."
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      "text": " So you had a transition of work. You went from the Naval Air Systems Command to Naval Strategic Systems Program. And do you like your new position better? Actually, I cannot say exactly where I work now, but I had moved on from the Strategic Systems Programs, the Navy, to the Space Force. Just new opportunities."
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      "text": " I'm an engineer, so I like to do practical things. So when I'm presented with a new opportunity, sometimes I pick up and go. Not necessarily with the location of my abode, but with just a new opportunity, new faces, new ideas, new possibilities. That's always intrigued me."
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      "text": " Maybe that's why this work spans so many physics domains from condensed matter physics to general relativity to quantum gravity and so forth. So, yeah. I like to learn. I never stop learning. I think when you stop learning, something in you dies or atrophies, you should always be"
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      "text": " Learning new things. Now, I'm not necessarily saying learn all things in all domains. For example, if I was to go into the medical field, this is why I hold you in tremendous esteem. For example, how you were able to read on the work of Dr. Carl Friston is I do not think I could have read those papers. I barely read them."
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      "text": " Thank you. I appreciate it. You're too kind, man. Now, Sal, has something happened behind the scenes that allows you to come forward? Like, what is the reason for you coming forward now rather than before? And when I say coming forward, I mean, at least this is your first time on video. There was only, I think, two images of you prior to this."
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      "text": " So in my mind, I'm wondering, is this related to the Nimitz and the disclosure in general? Not at all, sir. The book by Ross Coldheart, again, the chapter 23 in which he basically say, are these patents merely a pathetic bluff to scare off America's rivals? I would not have performed due diligence as an engineer and as a"
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      "end_time": 7493.712,
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      "text": " As a person that serves the American people and the federal government, I would have not done my due diligence if I would have just let it just go by the wayside and say, oh, this is baloney, because it is not. A lot of work went into these ideas. A lot of work went into these patent applications. And they're not meant to scare off anyone. They're meant to ask questions and possibly"
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      "text": " Sal, thank you so much. It's time for me to do my due diligence and go through some of that work in the super force because I still I'm unclear and I need to gain some clarity. So perhaps I can send you some emails and ask you what does this mean? What does that mean for our next conversation to be a bit more illuminating when it comes to quantum gravity in the super force relationship to it? Sure, sir."
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      "text": " And please, if you see me not responding right away, it's because I can basically just work on this stuff during weekends. You and I have discussed this previously. I don't want you to take it as an affront. I know it's happened to me. I write emails and nobody answers for weeks and I tell you it's not that I do this because in any way it's an affront to you."
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      "text": " I'm extremely busy at my work at this point in time and leave, leave it at that. Yeah. Okay. And also same with myself. If you don't get a response right away, sometimes you may not get a response for about a week or two. Hey, that's dude. It's due to you. Okay. Please don't, don't forget a hyperlink to this. Cause my wife was really interested and said, what what's going on here? So, you know, thank you very much, sir. And I cannot help calling you sir, because it's a term of respect."
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      "text": " Thank you Sal."
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      "index": 283,
      "start_time": 7609.462,
      "text": " Do you have any message to say goodbye to the audience because we're live and I'll either include it or not depending on what you want?"
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      "text": " For everyone out there, just cooperate. Cooperate and try to be positive in your thinking. Give people the benefit of the doubt and always experiment on new ideas. And remember, it doesn't have to be new physics, just new perspectives on all physics. There's nothing wrong with all physics. There's nothing wrong with all musky books that should never be thrown in the fire, as they say. That's all. Thank you, sir."
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      "text": " My ending note is that there's a misconception about physics that these shifts are when people throw out everything that had come before, but this isn't true. It's mainly whenever there's been well-established theories and there's inconsistencies, then that's an indication that specific changes are needed to be made. And revolutions aren't from someplace where someone found themselves under a tree, where they were by a Mayan temple and now they had this insight."
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      "text": " And so it's completely radical. It's usually a conservative element and a radical element. You need both. Not just conservatism, because that's just the way it's been. And not just radical, because at least historically it's never been that. It's a combination of both. So for example, Einstein was extremely conservative. He had a certain set of principles that he wanted to hold on to tightly, even when other people were willing to throw out those principles. So he said, no, no, no, this is what is foundational. And then from there he built his theories."
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      "text": " I totally agree with you sir. And just one more thing. Einstein's general relativity formalism is absolutely amazing. And everybody tried to prove Einstein wrong. Think again. This man, he truly is, you know, every now and then these forces of nature are born. I believe Einstein was such a force. Enough said. Okay."
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      "text": " Alright, I'm going to end the live stream. Thank you everyone for showing up and this will be edited and placed out in about two to three days or so depending on how much sleep I can get. Okay, take care everyone and Sal, stick around because me and you will talk privately. Absolutely. Right here. Stop the live stream. There we go. Okay, so now no one can see this. Let me make sure about that just so that in case you want to say anything private, it's not. So I'm saying end stream and there we go. Okay, great. That's ending."
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      "text": " Okay, so, Sal. Oh, firstly. Yes, sir. No, not not firstly, and Lee, I will make sure that I stopped that audio recording and then you could send me that file. Okay. Well, how how do I send it to you? I'll do I'll do it. I'll do it for you. Okay. Yeah, you do it. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. So let's think. So how does that go for you? tremendous. I mean, you, you're"
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      "text": " You have some pertinent stuff, some very good practical questions. For example, I got all screwy on the Bose-Einstein condensate."
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      "text": " because I know the physics of it. You want me to remove that one part? No, that's quite all right. Let people know that I have deficiency. I'm only human being. I make a lot of mistakes. Certain things I do not know, but I remembered immediately the work of Dr. Wolfram Ketterle and was able to come back and basically that's what it is. It's when electrons march forward and lock step."
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      "text": " How you describe that? A giant matter wave. That's exactly how Dr. Kattelay described it in his Nobel Prize-winning work. I forget when, I think 2009. Was that the Bose-Eisner contest? I believe so. It's funny in his email to me, because I, of course, I want to say I complained, but I said, why are the archive gatekeepers so hard on me?"
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      "text": " said, well, you know, otherwise they would have to publish everything that was sent to them, you know, and, and he was right in that it's, um, it's, and it wasn't condensed matter physics per se, what I was sending. So that's why he, you know, he basically said, I, I rather not, but I have a feeling if I would have insisted he's that kind of person, he's a really nice guy."
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      "text": " The podcast is now finished. If you'd like to support conversations like this, then do consider going to patreon.com slash C-U-R-T-J-A-I-M-U-N-G-A-L. That is Kurt Jaimungal. It's support from the patrons and from the sponsors that allow me to do this full time. Every dollar helps tremendously. Thank you."
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