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WES WATSON Is Going Back To Prison!? | FULL LEGAL BREAKDOWN
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Actually, the one thing was, roll it right back. I don't know if you remember, you know what Jeff Nipper is? No. So Jeff Nipper is a science-based YouTuber.
and he's got, you know, four million or three million, whatever subscribers. Um, he's at a beef with his other, with his other, not you, not science baselifter. And this guy used to do that. It says, you know, he's outspoken, Mike Benwick, outspoken, big ass dude tattoos. Oh, I'm used to, used to, um, you know, uh, he was a, he was a security for Drake. And anyway,
Incident happens, they're in the gym, one too many times together. Mike walks by Jeff, Jeff sees him. Well, Mike goes and does his own thing. Jeff takes his care man and is like, come follow me. See the video. John Bravo covers all this and I know this too. I know this too very well. And then he goes up to him with his camera.
And Mike's already told him, like, stay the hell away from me. Like, he doesn't like them. Like, Jeff already knows Mike does not like him. And Mike's one of those, one of those fuck around and find out type of guys. He goes up to him with his camera and then Mike just gives them a, you know, to the, basically like a throat push slash slash punch, whatever.
and then sends his kid flying and then goes over him again, pushes him again, yada yada yada. That blows up. He goes online. Jeff goes online, takes a picture of him at the getting a CT scan, you know, a little whatever. That's kind of sus. And so there's a big feud now about Jeff, you know, this big guy pushing this small guy. And Mike's not apologizing. So we have this like everyone
Divided taking sides so mice got all the people in the one side being like Efron and find out You know, I said I was like accountability accountability. Everyone could have done something and not this happened period so it's all happening and then all of a sudden Your boy, what's his name? West comments about it
And then that's when the kind of spark gave us a little more attention because this thing is like going bonkers, right? There's videos.
I don't know how the fuck he does it, but he gets
he gets people to send him like i'm talking like not rumorship but like receipts like he has the guy from the gym who had beef with with wes watson send him like sent him the actual like voice messages this that and the other so like i might leave some stuff out but either way so now john's got a video on you know this guy saying a week ago that you know you you know knock him out should have said this whatever i'm a tough guy blah blah blah then a guy actually like steps up to him he's like he calls
So like, yeah, so John makes another video. John actually is a prankster as well too. He actually goes and messes with Wes and he's like, yo, you know, he pranks him like, yo, I'll fight you, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then obviously Wes sees what John looks like. John's, you know, fucking seen John Bravo in videos. He takes the whole fucking thing, he's like this, you know, and he blocks him. So he blocks, he blocks John Bravo.
So John's like, okay, so John keeps digging in for stories. And then all of a sudden, you know, he's, you know, there's, after that, after the, he made a comment on Jeff nipper, Jeff nipper, Hattie, like, like Mike Van Wick's channel went down. I'm talking with the trolls, like there's, there's, there's a trolls who just want to see the world burn. And then you have your influencers, big fans who are a stick up for you for like, for everything.
and then when they go over to someone's channel then the trolls insert themselves into acting like they're Jeff nippers best friends as well too or whatever so the crew's there and they're just fucking ripping they're ripping uh what do you call it um west apart for saying this whatever and then he starts talking about the the trolls then he starts talking about then he then he ends up um collaborating and teaming up with with um big boy and cali muscle who are also you know
Same type of guys who've been to jail and act like their story is like this elaborate story. Cali Muscles goes on and be like, always these men talking about men and blah, blah, blah. It's like, meanwhile, Cali Muscles name is actually Chuck Basher. He did gay for pay, yada, yada, yada. So now Wes is with Cali Muscle and
big boy who are the the team, the trifecta of like, exacerbate your story as much as you possibly can and act like you're this like alpha male who's went to jail. The same, they're just like, you know, the birds of a feather flock together type shit. And then the trolls just, it's on fire now. They're just there. I've never seen troll work like this before in my life.
And you can see Wes now addressing on every video, he's addressing the trolls. He's addressing the trolls.
fucking weirdos who just talk about men these just a bunch these guys and so he's taking the part of like somebody saying is kind of true right it's like they have nothing else to do but to just talk about you and send you mean messages and this and that and the other but then he's responding in that way where he could tell he's like he's pissed right and then he calls them out so he's like if you want to know whatever come to my gym it'll just be me and you we'll go outside yada yada yada
And then that was it. Like from that, it was like, it was just, they just, they kept on fucking going to him and you could see him just bothered by it. Cause he knows they're going, they're going in there, they're giving bad, you know, business reviews. They're calling the Jimmy's out and doing whatever they do. They, the trolls will do their work. They don't want an order 66 on your ass from anybody. Right. And what was it? Hasn't he been, um,
Oh shoot, swatted a couple times? I saw one video where Wes, the cop show up at the house, they get out, come out of the house, put your hands up. He's like, no, no, no. He said I've been, I was swatted.
I didn't call I didn't and then the cops were like get out turn around he's like yeah you don't have to do all this he was I was swatted because you guys came here last week I got swatted last week yeah so it's like that's twice and then listen he's yelling at the cops and you know of course he turned around and they cuffs up he does everything he's supposed to do but still same thing like they're they're they're definitely ruthless yeah they're absolutely ruthless right
and it's like so like you know and you know and and I got it I have empathy for anyone like no one deserves to get you know it's it's a little bit of the cancel culture you know type behavior you know do everything you can to cancel somebody right and like you know like they'll they'll do it to themselves like if you think about it really like like Wes did it to himself he's gonna end up doing that regardless of trolls he's cancelling himself out he's um
He's self-destructing, literally. Thank you, that's what I was trying to say. Self-destructing. So you see all the videos he's in, if you read the comments, the comments of being leftist and that, there's the meme pages about him calling him Peg. Because again, when you're a guy like that and you live your life,
and try to be what you're not, you talk like you're not, you lie, you do all these things. So he's got his ex girlfriend that's like coughing up pillow talk stories.
of him being actually like his girlfriend likes to peg him this is like from his actual ex-girlfriends like like you know from her word telling what he has in his actual like in his little man person he carries so all these secrets of him are all being you know exposed and people are just jumping on it and making videos so he's like
I laugh, but I don't wish that on anybody. I don't give a fuck who you are. It sucks. That's got to suck. The thing is, one thing about trolls is they don't really necessarily do it just to anybody. There's one thing about trolls that I don't like, trolls regardless,
This dude
Messages them and this is on the video. It's like he messaged like hey, he's like, why don't you fight somebody? You know blah blah blah and he's like anytime any place he's like tell me where he's I'll show up he's like he's like eight o'clock on eight o'clock in the morning on Weekdays and weekends let me says it in the in the in the text right to the guy and then he says some other shit and I guess that's where I guess he drops a bomb there but we can figure that later on another video I can do and get some reviews and
Right. So that's going to end up being the, you show up, we'll go outside. Right. So he shows up, he shows up, he puts his camera down and we see him put his camera down because he, I even said, I'm like, this guy's putting his camera on. They probably, he probably took him up with his offer and lo and behold, he literally did. So he went there expecting to fight Wes Watson, right? Now you're an idiot. Like,
No one's fighting, I said this in my video, no one's fighting anybody fair. Like those days are fucking done and gone. If you're gonna literally, if you think that someone's gonna be like, yeah, man, coming over and we'll fight like the olden days, we'll duke it outside. It's not gonna happen. But he puts his camera down and goes over. He's like, what's up, man? Like, let's do this. And then that's when basically everything happens. But if you actually watch the breakdown, he pushes Wes and then he kind of backs up and then Wes takes off his belt and flashes at him.
And I made a point about this because I broke this entire video down like the whole video and I'm like After they because you got you got be up be that bad It was like maybe like a two to three minutes of like you the video long. That's a long beating right? You're like I'm talking 50 some odd punches kicks a dumbbell a weight belt Hair pulled out of his head like his dreads was pulled out of his head. Hopefully those are like, you know, I don't maybe they're extensions regardless of
He got up after. Like as soon as it was done, he was literally right up. Like all his face got fucked up, whatever. We don't really see it. You see blood though, but he got up. And after watching that video, I'm looking at there. I'm like, one time in my life it happened. I got jumped once. I jumped more than once, but I got jumped. And by two guys and one guy pulled out a police baton and he hit me in the leg, right? Instantly, instantly. I'm like, you're not serious.
And I just, you know, I got the, I got the, I basically beat him, I actually beat him both up. Um, I got the, the police were in front of him. Um, he hit one guy right off of the guy. I'm literally like just basically like punched him up and that was it. And I remember that being like, cause like where I'm from, I'm like, if someone's serious, they're not going to pull a police baton over anything and hit you in the fucking leg. If they're serious, they're hitting you in the head.
And you're not getting up. You don't remember. And they're not going to announce to you that you're going to... They were like, school fight, the school... They lured me into chatting with them, right? So kind of at that point, I'm like, something's going on. Maybe they want to jump. Maybe they don't. I don't know. I'm prepared for it. And then I get in the leg with a baton. I'm like, they're not serious. So when I watched this video and I'm like, you flinched at him, number one. You weren't serious about actually hitting him. You had to keep up with your persona. Because after they fought and beat him up, I'm looking at him like,
Myself alone, if it was just me alone, one or two of my punches on top of a person like this, you're not getting up. You have a broken jaw. You're getting carted away in an ambulance. When I look at guys like that, I'm like, you weren't actually serious about actually hurting this dude. That or you're completely really weak, but let's be serious. You know people that are dangerous.
If a group of dangerous people jumped you, you're not walking away. So all the punches and all the kicks and all the things that they did, even the kicks, they kicked him. His foot was like plantar flex. If I want to hurt somebody, my toes point. I'm not just kind of soccer kicking you. You know what I mean? So I looked at the entire fight that they did. My conclusion immediately, you guys actually aren't
who you are trying to say that you are. Because if you were, all four of you would not allow that kid to even walk away. Like that kid's not getting up. He popped up after it was like, you know, and then did a police report after, right? So like, how serious are you really to hit somebody 50 times and that person still get up? So I, listen, so well, I had a few things, but first of all, like,
It started with a scream inside a quiet Maryland home. A mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead. And he claimed LSD made him do it.
As far as in like Florida, Stand Your Ground is concerned, you know what I'm saying?
you've now you like West may have had a one-on-one with the guy because he showed up and that probably would have been okay no charges but when these other guys jump in it took on a whole new situation like they have no right to jump in and then when the guy hit the ground and he kept kicking him whether it's whether you're saying it's serious or not
Which I agree and I can have something to say about that But but the fact that once the guy was down and he was retreating and you kept kicking him. Okay, your your stand your ground has Disappeared at this point like that's over, you know, like like your whole defense for he approached me Yeah, he approached you he didn't approach you and all of your buddies, right? And then he certainly went once you were no longer a threat like you can't
You keep kicking the guy, you know, so he has an issue there. But and I can tell you right now, like having been in prison and seeing fights, listen, a 30 second to a minute fight is a long time. That's a long time to fight, even if you're in good shape. Yeah. So the other thing is, and I always hate this about movies. Matter of fact, we were watching my wife and I watched the last episode of Landman the other day.
And this guy, these guys are punching this dude in the head. I mean, he's got like a bag over there. They're smashing them and smashing them and they're, they're doing all this, you know, really, really beating the hell out of him. Of course, when it's over, he gets up and he walks away. He's cut up and bloody a little bit. Doesn't go to the hospital. And I might listen if a guy punches you four or five times to the face and really connects. And this guy had no defense. He's got a bag over his head so he can't even see it coming. Yeah.
your nose is broken caved in probably your eye socket is probably broken and caved in your jaw you're missing teeth there was one punch where it was right here you you're missing teeth like that you've got at least a couple of teeth are caved in and he's an old guy he's a 65 year old man so i'm saying the guy on on uh yeah on landman so i'm saying having been in prison and seeing fights i can tell you right now i saw a fight one time and at the end of the fight and it was like a minute and a half and it went on forever yeah
The guy had a bunch of dreads pulled out of his hair out of his head. He had there was a tooth laying in a pool of blood. I mean, it was brutal. Yeah, brutal. And these guys beat the I mean, broken noses. I mean, their faces are rearranged. And to be honest with you, these weren't these were two guys that were probably in their 40s or 50s. You know, I'm saying like these were not like 25 year old guys, 30 year old guys.
like they should not have been fighting like you're not in a position you know they're in good shape but for god's sake your body just doesn't hold up well and you're at 40s and 50s to be fist fighting yeah what's really funny about that is that whole fight started because in prison you kind of have a space
This is where my chair sits. I watch TV. I've been here. This is my space. The other guy sat in his space and he said, Hey bro, I've been here. I've been in this for, I've been here for 10 years. That's my space. The guy's like, all right, man, gets up and leaves. He's like, do me a favor, bro. Like, don't sit there again. You know, this is my little piece of real estate. Yeah. And
the next day he comes in the guy sitting got his chair sitting in his space again and he went he looked walked in and stopped and I was there like I looked over because I'd seen the first I just happened to see first altercation and the next day I happened to be there again just by coincidence looked over saw him walk in the door looks at the other guy looks where he is and goes walks upstairs goes to the broom closet gets a broomstick
comes back downstairs walks up behind him and smashes him in the back of the head with the broomstick the guy just falls over boom hits the ground he's out yeah the other guy walks upstairs with the broomstick and about you know 10 seconds later he comes to he stumbles around a little bit he realizes what happened
He goes up the stairs and then the fight for the next minute and a half, there's a, there's screaming, pulling hair, knocking into shit, falling. Prison's not a, it's not a good environment to fight in because everything's made of steel and concrete. So anytime you stumble or hit something like it doesn't move into a table, it doesn't move. Like anything you stumble into or hit, like you're, you're, you're, you're hurt. It's a lot of, yeah. Anyway,
I can only imagine if four guys jumped on a guy and really wanted to do some damage. I mean, you're, he probably shouldn't have stood up. Like, I don't know how, you know, so what do you, what are you suggesting? Do you think it was choreographed or you think? No, no, no, no, no, I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't think it's, so I want to make that clear. I did it in my video. Like I'm not saying it's choreographed.
Okay. You know, I don't like, I don't like, you know, because I try to, you know, prize what I preach. I don't go, I'm like, hey, I know, I know this guy, this guy, this guy. You know, I've been like, you know, my life, my life led me to past to experience a lot of things. So when I, when I see, when I see things like this happen, I don't look at it as like, oh, you're faking it. I look at it as like, you don't have this, you don't have the, the stomach.
to actually be that kind of person. Okay. You don't have the stomach to actually want to hurt somebody, right? You want to act like you're tough. You want to act like you can hurt somebody. You want to act that way because if you actually did, you would have, you would like, so, so for instance, when he took his belt off, he first time he flinches at the guy at the, at the black guy, right?
He does this and then that guy moves away. And then it isn't till his other buddy goes behind him and then push them back. And then he actually, you know, hits him with a belt. He gets him a couple of times with tight toys to the belt, right? He's telegraphing things, right? Right. It's like, here's your way. Here's your way out. I kind of don't want to do this. You know what I mean? Right. When you, when you're around people like, you know, you've been around people that I can say that you've been around people that you know, for a fact,
They're either one of the killers, right? They don't care about human life. They don't. They have no regard for your safety. They do not care, right? There are those people in the world that do not care. A buddy of mine has died from a guy like that, right? It happens. Those kind of people don't have to say who they are. People know who they are. If you're unlucky to be in a situation with them, it's guaranteed that you're either dead or in a hospital.
The guy like Wes Watson and all his buddies aren't those guys. They're not choreographing, they're not faking it. They're carrying out the
the persona that they had to act and be. He's got to act like this tough guy. He's got to act like this dude. To be honest, a real tough guy in this entire situation would be like, yo, guys, chill out. I'm going outside to take care of this. If he wants to walk out, if he does something funny, then whatever. I'm going to walk out with this guy. I'm going to take care of business and be back inside or whatever.
That new timeline is me respecting Wes Watson to the nth degree. I'm like, yo, good shit, man. You talk a lot of shit and this and that, but you went outside and handled business. That's what a tough guy does. A guy that actually is as dangerous as Wes Watson was to act like he is, or a guy who's actually as tough as what Wes wants to act like he is, he does that one thing.
He's just at a point where I don't give a flying fuck about going back. I don't care. We'll go back to jail. I'm going to kill you. And then that's what happens, right? There's guys who don't care if they go back to jail. Those guys are not the, those, those guys are, those guys are dangerous, right? And if that, and if the same guy, black guy, another lifetime walks up to these type of guys, that guy isn't getting up after 54 punches to the face, two kicks, two, two, two slaps by a, a, a belt, a weighted belt and hit with a dumbbell.
You tell a little story with one guy who's walked the stairs casually and got a broomstick and hit him in the back of the head, right? I'm not telegraphing. They're not saying it. They're just going to take care of it, right? So for me, when I watch this, I'm like, this is the classic situation where you took things too far and now you had to act like something that you're not and you don't know how to act that way.
and you're either for that life or you're actually not and he's not for that because he did something that he's like, you know damn well if you you're going to jail like you you're hopefully luckily you hope hope to God that something happens where they can be like, yeah, it was self-defense like all four of you guys need to do that like whatever that you know about the hope but just he doesn't want to go back to jail right he doesn't want to do that at all but he had to act he had to he had to carry out his act
He's putting on the show, which is not going to play well in front of a jury.
Cause like right after he was like, he's like, yeah, I don't know if you saw him in, he said, pull the cameras, pull the cameras out, self-defense. As he literally said after this, I'm like, you're telling me you in your mind think this is pull the cameras, dude, like you're fucked. Like you went, you went way too far. There's no stand your ground laws and you pulled out a belt and whack the guy twice with it. Then punched him when he was on the ground, got up.
To be able to say a full sentence, walk around a fucking bench and then kick him again and then continue to fight him after that. Like literally that's, that's, that's how bad it is. So it's like, and then what, whatever, whatever his buddy's going to say. Well, they, they're fucked too. Like is it more because they were never, they were never in danger.
Right. Yeah. And in the moment too, because you could see it in John Brown's video, you can see who actually called the police. There's a guy that actually runs in to try and break things up. He's in there trying to pull things. And there's another thing I broke down. Because I look at things very in-depth and I'm like, this little man here who's got gloves on, who's probably the guy who cleans the gym, who takes care of stuff. That guy probably knows
Everybody in the gym the guy that cleans the gym knows everybody in the gym, right? Right. So he knows West Watson. He knows Dude, the guy came in the gym. He knows whatever and then you see the guy try and break it up, you know He can't break it up He gets up and you can see him running away and that I can tell that's the guy who actually went and called the police To stop it right because he comes back in and he's like pull the tape tells that bull tapes Whatever. So I look at this guy. I'm like this guy who's small goes in there as brave as he is it goes break this thing up and like
If Wes Watts is a dangerous cat and he's all things that he says, nobody is breaking that fight up. Nobody is. I've been in situations where it's like, don't get involved. Like don't not get involved. Like that guy came in here wanting to fight those guys.
Go the fuck over there and don't care but don't get involved because it'll be your ass, right? So when a guy can be like, I'm gonna go in here and be mister, you know, save them all, which is good for him, like good for him for being that and caring, whatever, just goes to show me that what kind of person he knows that Wes Watson is, right? Wes probably deep down inside a really, really nice dude.
Nice ass dude who's just probably you know, just you know trying to be this guy cuz there's a lot of guys like that who are in Doing you know, I know a lot of guys. I've known that and I'm getting charges It's like you didn't have you you came from a middle to upper-class family What are you doing? What are you doing selling drugs for like you need to do that shit? And then now you're now you got to go to jail because you fucked up It's like well like that's the life you tried to act. Do you not understand that? That's what comes with this life
You know what I mean? So it's like, Wes is probably a nice-ass dude who probably didn't do anything wrong with his life and was like, you know, got mixed up trying to figure out who he was and then all of a sudden he's in jail for a violent crime that he probably shouldn't have been involved in in the first place and that he's got to do seven years
and he's like man i fucked up and he seven years spends in there and sees some fucked up shit and he's still trying to because he's probably got to keep this persona or something while he's in jail and then seven years later he gets out of jail and he's like man humility to the fucking nth degree and he tells the story to one person and the person's like wow and he's probably got some good shit to say and you're like man that's fucking awesome he's like man i changed a guy's life and he's like and he says it again and
And he's like, oh shit, this story's pretty good. And then he's like, yeah, well, then I was actually the dawn of the fucking before that I was actually selling this and he's in his story gets this and that and he's got more tattoos. Realize he's got a shitty hairline and shaves his fucking head. And now he's renting cars and he's got to be this fucking dude. And then here we are today. That's I know, I know people, man, I can read people.
Yeah, I don't think he was, I don't think he came out a nice guy. I don't think he went in a nice guy. I think he was always fucking meathead. He was probably meathead, but he wasn't to the extent of what, you know, I know him. I think the money and the fame.
I'm
Always your biggest downfall is when you do nothing but surround yourself by sycophants who do nothing to tell you you're wonderful, like that's a major problem. Yeah, so it's funny, I always think about there was a guy I was locked up with
There's a lot of guys I was locked up with that like we're sick work. I don't want to say serial killers because they were typically paid like they weren't killing because they had a compulsion. They were paid like there was a guy a guy who was literally he got I think we get like 30 years 40 years.
They got 40 years anyway, and I mean he was a he was a killer like he was killing for the for the cartel in Colombia for the Colombian cartel. He'd been locked up a while. That's how old it was right how old he was but he'd murdered and he was in multiple books like there were multiple books where they were talking where they would talk about him. He eventually gets caught.
He gets 40 years. I mean, he cooperates. He gets 40 years. That was that was his that was the best deal he was going to get was 40 years for cooperating like you bring down like 30 guys and you still get 40 years. Yeah, so he killed I forget what it was 1520 people. Yeah. So he was
He was he was a Colombian. He's always loud, but he was you know, you would never know it. You would never know it talking to him, you know, and then I remember there's another guy we call them. It's they call them old man. I think was old man Jim. Anyway, and I remember one time we used to I painted when I first got locked up and I was in the painting room.
And he would talk to me, nice guy, I'd help him carry stuff, you know, he's in his late 60s, very quiet. And he was placing paintings behind paintings and putting them up on the lockers, right? And he'd been told not to do that several times by the correctional officer, the CEO.
And so finally the CEO comes in, this female CEO comes in and she starts yelling at him and she's like, Jim, what did I tell you? I told you last time if you fucking did that. And she starts screaming at him in front of everybody. And he looked at her and all of a sudden he just goes. And he starts laughing and he's trying not to laugh. She goes, what's so funny because I'm.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's got you're right. You're right. I yeah, he said I'll get it down. I'll put it in the workshop. I'm sorry. I'm going to be mailing it out. It won't be here next week. And she was like, Oh, okay. So when I was helping him carry some stuff later that day, and we're walking, I said, Jim, I said, keep my I'll take it. So Jim was a very, very scared. You know, he'd murdered
Probably ten people. I remember he specifically murdered about five people that were actual witnesses against him in a crime. So we're walking and I go, I said, whatever, Lieutenant so-and-so was yelling at you. I said, why did you start laughing? And he goes, it dawned on me, he said, that if we were on the outside,
I had to cut that bitch's head off, stuck her head in the trunk of my car and driven around with it for a week till it started smelling. He said, but I'm in prison now and I have to just listen to her and take it. He is, and it just struck me as funny. And I just thought, and he, and he was like, his life's funny. And I thought, and he's not joking. And he was nicest guy. You'd never think. And the only reason I even knew
Why he was locked up because he was actually locked up for like a drug conspiracy. Yeah. And I used to, one of my buddies was like, you like Jim, huh? I was like, yeah, he's cool. I like Jim. He's a nice guy. And he goes, yeah, he goes, he is. He said, but you know why he's here, right? And I went for drugs. He said, yeah, yeah. He said, you understand? He said, but you have to understand Matt. He said, Jim went to trial or was going to trial in the state back in the, in the late seventies.
I said, okay, back in the late seventies, you could, it was very easy to get out of a, like a county jail. There was lots of programs. It wasn't a lot of security. He said, you know, he said in the seven late seventies, he was going to go to go to trial. And I went, okay. He said, you know, he was a member of a biker gang and stuff. And he goes, and he had murdered someone and there were witnesses. And I was like, okay. He said, so he waited until about 10 days before his trial.
when you get the witness list. And he said once his lawyer gave him the witness list, two days later, he escaped. He said, so a year later, he comes back to the jail and says, hey, my name is Jim so-and-so. He said, you guys are looking for me and they ran him. They're like, oh my God, yeah, you're escaped. And they put cuffs on him and they bring him into jail. They process him.
And his lawyer shows up a week later and says, he says, I'm ready to go to trial. And they go, oh, you go, okay, it was going to take a month or two. Okay. So, you know, because they have to start over. Well, they find one of the witnesses was shot three times.
another witness was had disappeared completely another one that he tied her true and these are this isn't what men these are like three women two men he tied to a tree cut her throat in the woods another one like all five witnesses are either missing or deceased and he knew
So he escaped. It took him a year to track them all down and kill them. And then he goes back to jail and says, I'm ready to go to trial. They held them for another five or six months trying to put something together. They eventually had to drop the truck, drop the charges. He walks out of jail. The feds come in and like a year later they grab them because the feds pretty much the federal government can pretty much grab you for anything. They put together a drug case. He was involved and he gets
20 years in the feds and whatever the the point it or no I think it was like 30 years or something but the point is is like this guy was the nicest guy you'd ever meet he was he was truly dangerous and I've had friends that you're I'm sitting here eating I'm eating at the medium with three murders and all of them not like accused like they've murdered people nicest guys they'll linger hey you know you just got here let me get I'll give you some shower slides and hey bro uh you know
Yeah, Cox, you got no problem. Hey, I'll talk to so and so for you and see if I can get that taken care of. I mean, just nice guys. But the truth is they were truly, truly dangerous and they didn't have to pretend. Yeah, I don't have to scream and holler and tell you what a badass I am because the truth is I'm extremely dangerous. Right. Yeah. So that's that's
You know, and I'm not saying Wes Watten wouldn't beat my ass like a small child. I'm just saying in general, he holds a lot of bolstering. It's there. It's exactly what it is. And it's, it's, um, yeah, this goes though saying it's, you know, if it had been a fair fight, he wouldn't have fought. No, I mean, that's, that's why I didn't write this, like literally said, like, you know, he's like, come.
West Watson is like, I made some jokes in the video. It's pretty entertaining. But, you know, he's like, yeah, come on over. Because when you see the first video, the first video, the video that you see when he went out, he's like, yeah, man, some seven foot, some big monster comes in, you know, seven foot five. He's obviously seven foot five. I have to, you know, I have to take care, whatever. It's like, but you didn't, you didn't take care of him. You didn't say, all right, bro, let's go outside. You guys stay here. You guys jumped in with, with weapons, right? Like, like they, they took him, they took him down.
It's not like Wes punched him and then he went down and then they all got him. He got surrounded. And Wes hit him with a belt while the other guy was behind him, pushed him down and then Wes grabbed him and then started. So it was like a messy, you know, a collaboration of like, you're, you know, so it's like, you know, you're not tough, you know, you're not, and it doesn't matter what, like people still like, you know, will be like, yo, he's got a good message. It's like, you messed up the door.
Your message means nothing. Like I said, in an alternate reality, Wes says, yo guys, chill out for a second, just watch, make sure he doesn't have boys outside and come make sure nothing happens. I'm going to take care of this. Then we're all saying, Wes is Wes is Wes.
Hey guys, that's stand up for me, man. If he beats a dude's ass, cool, man. You literally told the guy to come down. If you want to be a troll and talk shit to you, come on down and talk shit to me and then you go outside and take care of it. Cool. And he had every opportunity to do that. Even if he got beat up, even if he got beat up, I would respect Wes Watson for going out and doing what he said and getting his ass kicked. I respect that. And nothing else, we would all respect it.
There are guys you get into a fight in prison, guys will test you. And honestly, they don't care if you win the fight as long as you're willing to fight. That's what they're concerned with. They'll know, like, you know, the guy's not going to win, but I want to know if he'll fight. That's their concern. And that's funny you say that because it's like, okay, Wes has been to jail. And I'm sure Wes probably knows that as well, too. Right.
right so if he's been to jail and he knows that has and understands that now he's in a setting where he asked it what would you do when you're if you were in jail west since you're a mr jail guy right you would have you would have fought him you would have been like hey guys help me you would have fought him because he would have been in the jail you'd have been like a pussy you'd have been like oh yo
This guy's what? Wait a minute, right? If you're in jail and you tell people, yo man, come and fight me, which you don't do, I'm sure you used to don't do that, but like say you did and you're an idiot and you do that. And one guy says, all right, cool. And comes up to you and you go to your boys like this. Hey guys, help me out. I'm sure, I'm sure of it. I'm sure the next thing after that is you fucked, right? So it's like all the things that Wes says he was in jail,
He's not in real life. All the experience he has while he's in jail for seven years, he expresses it the opposite when he's out. Even for yourself, when you have somebody who's been to jail before,
And they say that's because I saw a lot of the dismantling of West was from other guys who've been in jail. Plus, I know like, you know, I'm saying I know people in jail. I'm like, I'm sorry. It's not how you act at all. Like, no one does this. Like you can see immediately. No, that's not how you act like.
You know, no one glorifies, you know, it's okay to have a story, you know, you made your story arc is you went to jail, you were humbled, and you made it out and it, you know, cleared your mind this and that, and you're living a different life. That's all for that story. But like when you glorify it, and you make that the pinnacle of your everything. Yeah, it's like, you know, at that point, it's like, yeah, you're, you're not who you say you are.
So what do you, what do you think happens? I mean, I know you're, you're in Canada, so you don't, you don't really know the states. I know, I know enough. I know enough. Interested where they're charging charges. So I don't know yet. Um, cause it has like, it has to be like, you know, he's the guy says he wants to press charges. So I know here, like, you know, they're either going to get you or you turn yourself in, right? You need a process, right? So,
He's having it processed by going in himself or whatever, depending on all the evidence they're going to get from, you know, like, you know, the, the guy is going to obviously give him his cell phone because his cell phone catches, his cell phone catches everything, which is like his cell phone caught the entire, the entire angle. Right. And then the cameras from up top will catch the other angle.
once they see that and he decides, but no, in Canada, you don't have to, you don't, you don't have to press charges. Um, you can, the, the, the crown here can be like, can see him like we're pressing charges. Like it's that's assault. Right. Whatever they add on. I don't know if he's, if he's going to say when they get all the evidence, it's like, Hey, by the way, I want to press charges on that guy, that guy, that guy, and that guy as well too. Right. Which I would, um, I think that if anything happens, Wes will get charged. Um,
You know, it also depends on who the guy is too. This guy could be... You know, he's definitely not a gangster because he's...
He's talking to the police. If that guy didn't press charges, then I'd be like, Wes is fucked even more. Because if that guy goes in there and he doesn't press, the cops say, if we were in that report and it says the guy didn't want to press charges, I'm thinking this guy is one of those dudes and you're now effed, Wes, because he's coming back and you're fucked. But he pressed charges. So he's not that kind of guy. So I think he'd probably get
you know, depends on how far I go with that. I think you could probably get whatever the minimum charge is for, but also Wes is also like a convicted felon. So he's, yeah, he's been in trouble multiple times. He's a criminal. Yeah. So I don't know how, what is, what is, uh, what is Nick? His parole, um, conditions are even, you know, like how long has he been out of jail for? Yeah, I'm sure he's off. Like typically, and there are exceptions, but typically you have like five years pay. Well, it depends.
Typically you'll have like, there's like two years, three years and five years of probation. I don't know what it is in California. I'm assuming he got out and he had some kind of supervised release, like a probationary period, but he's been out for at least five years. So he's off of that. He's not on probation. I don't think he'll get probation for.
an assault charge. If the guy hadn't, if it had just been a, an argument in the gym and these guys had attacked them, it'd be different. In fact, the guy went down there. He certainly, he certainly contributed to it, but, but West doesn't get to walk away because it's no long, it's not really, it's a, the very least it's an assault charge. Right. Yeah. It's a violent crime. And in Florida, they don't, they don't, they're not fans of violent crimes. Um, you know, once your charge was like, you can get it. You've got some leeway.
But once you're charged, it's a problem. So, you know, he could, he could probably do a few years, but then again, you know, he's got money. He could, he could try and go to try. Yeah. I can't imagine him go to trial because all they really have to do is show, show his videos and how he behaves. And I don't see anybody on the jury being okay with his behavior. I mean, yeah. I think I might go like completely just like,
whatever you had to be careful I say, but he's a black dude in Florida. I don't know. A lot of things get a lot of things get passed when it's the, when it's the black guy being victimized or becoming victim or saying the victim or playing victim role or is the victim in that case. And it's not like he's a, you know, walking into a situation where it's, you know, he was minding his own business. He did contribute to that. And depending on what kind of jury in front,
And depending who it is, that could sway in the favor of Wes. Very slim. There's too overwhelming. Anybody in the jury that sees the way Wes behaves, thinks to themselves, I would be okay with him being my neighbor. Can they use some of this YouTube stuff?
I'm sure it helps contribute to the environment that he was creating. Come down here. You got a fucking problem. Come down here. I'll take you know, and they're like, look, this is how this is who this person is. Because he took it because he took he took it off.
West has taken a couple things off already, which he knows now. That's clear. He's already. That's clear. Yeah. Yeah. So like, and like, which is like, which is like, you know, use your fucking brain. Like, what do you like? Like, for me, I'm, I'm always like, I'm always aware of my surroundings. I'm always aware. Like, there's like, who can see this? What's around? Like, what does my surround look like? There's no way this guy did that all that and was like, yeah, I'm good. Like,
There's three different camera angles on the entire thing, and violent. When you watch it, there's not one part of that video that looks like, one part, the guy's guilty. He pushes him, and that's it. He walks up, he's like, so what's up, basically, and then gives him a push, and then that's it. There's a stall, there's a little bit of a standoff for 10 seconds, maybe.
right? And then it gets, you know, whatever. So if, with all the, when I see all the evidence that's there, him being already a convicted, you know, felon, I'm sure his records always stand. I was, I was seeing maybe two to three for aggravated assault when I was 18. And that was, and that was defending my, actually defending myself from two guys. And I put them both, I put them both in a coma, like two, I've knocked them both out pretty bad. I was younger, actually I was 17.
I was turning 18 and I was, they were trying to chime me as an adult. Um, so I've got aggravated, like the, the highest crime for aggravated assault. Um, and that's, you know, that's just myself in Canada, right? Canada is a little more, has a little more leeway. A little more leeway in the States. So, you know what I mean? And you can like, you, and then the other top of that is like, he can sue them on top of it. So like, that's a, like that alone, like,
If Wes is smart, he tries to get his lawyer to go to the guy.
and pay, you know, and whatever, give him 50 grand or something, you know, 100 grand to not to press charges or to kind of, you know, whatever.
Huh? Does he have a hundred grand? He says he's got tons of money. I don't think he does. That's the thing. I don't think he, and it's going to be way more. If I'm, if I'm that kid and I'm not, and I'm not, and I'm not from a month, I'm not from the street kid. I'm a, I'm a normal ass kid that just got my ass beat by West Watson. I can promise that kid even went in there being like, Hey, if he, if he does not do this by like fair, I'm definitely pressing charges and I'm definitely fucking them over and a hundred thousand bucks. I don't know much. I don't know much. Uh,
insurance would be or for a hospital visit plus stitches plus whatever you'd have to
you know, I'm thinking he's, if I'm saying if Wes is smart, he tries to get this guy to take a hundred thousand dollars and Wes ends up pleading guilty and doing three years, you know, on probation, that would be the best kind of deal he could possibly get. I think, yeah, no, you could do that. You could make that argument, but let's say, you know, or maybe, maybe Wes ends up getting a year. See, if the kid's smart,
West takes the charge, then he sues him because now he's admitted he's done something wrong. He's gone and allocated. He said, look, I was wrong. I pled guilty to an assault charge. I'm now on probation. Now, guess what? Now we're going to go to trial. What is your defense going to be at trial that you weren't wrong?
I'm sure if you don't have the money, you're getting legal aid and then you're getting the least amount of help. No, but lawyers would be lined up to that. All they got to do is go on Wes's channel and look at all of his stuff. Yeah. If I'm a greasy lawyer or whatever, I'm going to be like, hey kid, by the way, here's how much money we can get from this and here's what you do.
I had a buddy of mine in elementary school that was on a field
Got pushed out of a window on the at the in Chicago on a field trip in Chicago pushed out of the window Cracked the window got pushed fellow fellow. I think I made a store something like that and he sued the school board and it took him like 70 years for it to go through and get him to get like I don't think you got like a million I don't think I know maybe like half or something like that, right? That's that's Canada States
You own half of Chicago. You sue Chicago. You sue everybody, you know what I mean? Like I said from the beginning, Wes is screwed regardless. I don't know how he's going to
Drops the charges and the state doesn't pick up the charges. I don't think the state would pick up the charges But but you know, they'll pick up the charges in some instances like domestic violence or something, right? You can get to that point where the where the cops show up a couple of times and then the wife drops the charges Or the girlfriend says it. No, I don't want to press charges Well after once or twice then the cop the state will just pick it up and say no, no, no Yeah, a candidate is different. You have like she they have to be like yes
If he did, or she did.
no because that brings up all these videos and it brings up all of your past arrests like you've been in prison before for doing this haven't you you've been on probation before you've been this is just who you are you're you're an absolute menace yeah it's it's it's it's and it's like the three other guys it's like the three other dudes i'm i'm surprised that like that we have like i can
I want to predict is in the next like my I don't make more of the month the next like there's content for John Bravo for the next I don't know the year because you're gonna because the next video will be like okay so now I actually know the guy of the this piece of shit asshole who's like this he's gonna get probably every one of the guys are in the background of those guys we're gonna have probably videos that if this guy charges those guys as well too because again like
It's not just West that hit him. It's like there's a guy hit him that kicked him. There's a guy, the other guy that took his, he's taken off his watch during, you know, while he's talking to West and then goes behind with a dumbbell, right? So it's like this guy, any lawyers, he'd be like, listen, bud, there's four guys, we're part of them just pressing charges. And then when they, they're all guilty, then we're suing them. And that's 500,000, that's a half a million minimum.
that you're going to get from this entire thing. And then paying your lawyer fees and stuff. It's going to be easy for this to be. I don't know. Like I said, hopefully he has the biggest horseshoe up his ass or some kind of weird ass bullshit racial shit comes up and all of a sudden Wes Watson's off the hook. But if that doesn't happen, he's screwed.
I'm trying to look and see like all I see so far is Instagram and YouTube videos. Like there's no, I don't see any news reports that say he's been charged. I know he's been, I know that there's a thing that talks about an arrest report. Um, did you see that one? There's one guy who reads like that. I have the, I, my, my last one, my last video, um, I got the, uh, John sent me the, um, the transcript, the report.
the police report and he does say he's pressing charges. I wonder why there's been no news. I don't know if it's that big. TMZ covered Jeff Nippard and what he called, which is weird.
So I don't know, maybe still going through. You used to be able to just kind of go online and really pick up, you know, look for the police report transcripts and get it when it's released to the public, but I don't know. Yeah, so I guess, what is it, the gym owner? Yeah. Basically said, or kicked him out? Did he?
Somebody I had seen that somewhere where the gym owner was basically like, yeah, you're not coming back here Like he's because the the kids probably gonna sue the gym owner Yeah, you know you're gonna throw that in there to try and get a hold of his Yeah, stay smooth suing everybody you're suing you're suing Right you're suing the gym owners suing West and all the buddies there You're suing the fucking belt company forever fucking for like why are you making belts? They're so easily detachable whippable, you know, like I don't know like you can I
I watched your interview, your breakdown of the Wes Watson thing. I've been a huge fan of his for years.
Um, so I don't know if you've ever watched, I'm sure you haven't watched any of the videos, but my buddy and I, we've like, you know, just mock him, you know, like cause, cause both of us had been like, I was in a media, a federal prison that was a medium, a security prison, and I was only there for about three years. The rest of my time I did about nine years in a, in a low security prison, you know, not that things don't happen there, but it's not obviously
Yeah. Probably more fights in the low, there's just less violent. Um, and, and then my buddy has actually been, and I want to say he's been in two pens. Uh, and you know, and, and I, I look, I've, I've interviewed enough guys and known enough guys and met enough guys that have been in pens and all of them are just like, yeah, you, you know, you just don't behave like this in a penitentiary. I mean, nobody's going to allow you to behave like this.
and I think we had talked about this as far as Wes is concerned that you know when he first came out he was he was actually a little more mellow you know and he seemed like he had some some good advice he's just gone it's I guess money or freedom or something has just you know it's just amplified all of the the negative stuff that he has to say and and
And then it's getting worse and worse and you know, you know how it is once you start. Well, as far as crime is concerned, once you start getting away with things, you become emboldened by it and you keep that envelope. And before you know it, you know, you get slapped back down or arrested or and I think everything I think for certain personality types, everything is like that. You keep pushing that envelope. Yeah. And apparently it didn't go well for.
It's really been kind of falling apart for a while now. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, like I said, I watched Jon's video today and I kind of did like my wrap up on what I think might be the wrap up. I'm sure it will be more on like what, you know, the repercussions of what's going on. But for me, I was just like, you know, I made the point that it's like, you know, time reveals everything.
I know people in my life that are what Wes tries to act like. It's not even an unwritten rule. You don't care yourself like that. People who are dangerous, they don't tell you they are. You just know they are.
Right. Whispers, rumors or something. That person alone will not be like, I'm dangerous or I'm successful or whatever. And I think guys like him are like, you know, they went to prison and like, you know, like prison sucks no matter what, like I don't care how long you go for, it sucks, period. Like it's, you know, that alone is like, you know, like you don't have to big up being in prison. You know what I mean? Like everyone knows
The worst way to punish people is by taking them away from people. You don't have to really lay down how hard prison was, whatever. But for guys like Kim, and I know guys like Kim, who've done minimal time, whatever, and then they create this persona when they leave, and it's not who they actually are.
While they continue to ride this persona, now they have to dive deep and now they have to become it. Now everything about them has to be it and they build on more and more. Then eventually, like situation like with Wes, same thing. It's like their true colors start to actually show. You know what I mean? The biggest mistake people make when it comes to trolls is actually acknowledging them.
because trolls have a specific job online, right? Is without trolls, like, just be serious, even having trolls, you know, social media will be kind of boring. Be honest. Like, it's not like, it's not like I want them around, but like they have their place. Their goal, their goal is to, is to get you emotionally, not only emotionally engaged, but to actually engage and to actually acknowledge them. And when you, and when you do, it's like game over.
If you acknowledge them and publicly call them out like he has a face to whatever troll it is, it's just like they're products. They just went over to his channel and his products and just did what trolls do and that's what they do.
And he did it the wrong way. And then you can see that like, you know, being an alpha male, you know what I mean? Like you can see it got to him, right? Like he literally like you can't, if you're like, oh, fuck the trolls, man, don't fuck with trolls. You don't, you don't, if you don't care about trolls, don't talk about trolls. Like you don't, you don't let everybody know that, you know, he made, I don't know how many videos he's like a bunch of weirdos. And like, I think every video made at least 10 in a row, we're talking, we're, we're,
addressing the trolls and you can see that they were literally getting under him like in under his skin. He's, you know, make comments about it to the point where he calls him out and then like, you know, he's a victim of his own demise, right? I think John, I said this in the video, John Bravo did a good job, you know, getting this stuff, but like, if it wasn't for the trolls, John Bravo would have no content because the trolls exposed who Wes Watson really was because he's an alpha dude. He's an alpha male.
You know, Tom Brady doesn't go into his DMs and like, fuck you for telling me I deflated the footballs. Like guys who are somebody don't really care. And guy like Wes just kind of got exposed, like, fairly easily. It was like an unraveling of a month's work.
First of all, when he first came out, like I did several, a buddy of mine named Zach, we did several videos where we were like, we just watched them. And you know, they were just reaction videos and just, you know, kind of laughed and joked about it, his behavior. And, and boy, let me tell you, his fans like came out of nowhere. You know, they just, you know, you simply
you this you that is like okay well you know first of all none of that's true you know i'm saying you see i'm saying it's like you know they they say like you said they're trolls they're saying anything yeah get a reaction and it's funny because when you say like that they have you know they have their place my editor his name is colby
He'll take content like, let's say I have an interview with somebody and in the middle of the interview, I'm like, wow, man, that reminds me of the movie, whatever. And then the guy will say, what movie is that? And I'll be, Oh, you've never seen that? And then I give them a quick rundown of the movie. Colby will take that clip and he'll clip it. So it really sounds like I'm saying I robbed three banks. I ran over and I did this and this and
And then he'll release that video knowing that it sounds like I'm telling someone else's story as my own. And those videos do better than any video where I'm just telling my story because the content, or I'm sorry, the comment section goes nuts. This guy's lying. That's the theme to the movie. He never did that. Everything this guy says is a lie. Other guys
Right.
50,000 views. And so he has no problem doing it. So the the interaction with some of these trolls, you know, I could see interacting with them, or feeding into that, them to get the interaction to push the videos. But I don't think that's what he's doing. No, I think it's getting under his skin. Yeah. And his whole story since he came out about five years ago,
has slowly I mean initially the story it's a good story it's an interesting story this is what happened and really a big part of West's story was that he went to prison and he kind of got enlightened and he changed his life and he was going to live his life in a different way and obviously that spun off into something you know disturbing let's say almost sinister where I can't tell you how many guys have contacted me and told me
Bro, I, you know, I paid to talk to Wes Watson. And you know, I said I'm whatever it was, I forget the amount. It was like 500 bucks. And, you know, I was supposed to talk to him for whatever 30 minutes and the guy got on the phone with me, he called me a bitch four times and hung up on me twice and then stopped answering the phone and took my money. Yeah. And these guys are like, they're like, this guy, you know, this is a complete scam. And then so that's been happening for a while.
And then he's becoming more and more animated, more and more derogatory towards other people. And then his story a couple years ago started falling apart, where it was
You know you weren't you didn't do ten years you did like seven you didn't do it in this facility you were in this facility you weren't a shock caller you know you didn't behave like this in prison the guys that were locked up with you said you were extremely quiet you know there were all of these things that came out that wasn't being honest about and here's the part that bothers me about that.
Because look, I've been like, I was locked up 13 years and I was I've been locked up with pathological liars. I'm not saying it's pathological liar. I'm just saying that that he's main if he's embellished his story. So, you know, and listen, everybody does it. I'll give you an example. For a while, I you know, so I didn't do 13 years, I did like 12 years and eight months. What am I going to do? I'm gonna say 12 years and eight months every single time somebody says I think.
He didn't have to manufacture and embellish his story.
Right. Right. Right.
You're not, you're not lying about your crime. You may be lying about the money you were making because other people, of course, have come out and said that he was not making a lot of money. He was kind of a drug addict and you know, whatever that he was living. He was sleeping on people's couches. Of course, he says, Oh, I was a millionaire before I went to prison like, come on, stop. That's not true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw.
yeah and you know you're spending all this money it's funny because some of his initial things that he said when he got out of prison the things he does now let me put it this way like he's never owned a business so people take will take them they'll pay him for like business coaching yeah what you've never owned a successful business that's like and listen i've owned
a construction company, a development company, a real estate company, and a mortgage company. And if you came to me and said, Matt, man, you've owned all these companies, you were super successful, I'd like to pay you. I'm not going to take your money because all the businesses that I own
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fraud was my go-to, they were always going to be successful and I don't feel confident enough to give you advice and have you invest your money in me and the things that I say because I can't say I've run a successful business, you know, unless you consider YouTube, but that's since I got out, you know, without it being, you know, based on some type of fraud. And so that's not right. So for this guy to get out and be giving people business advice, like what are you doing? You're a drug dealer. Yeah.
you know it and apparently not a great drug dealer not even a great criminal and he's just gone he's just the more money you gave you he gets you know you're renting a house you're renting a vehicle you're spending tons of fucking money it's for the stuff that like it is it is an ego out of control yeah and you know luckily you know or unluckily you know we have youtube and we're getting to watch it
I'm telling you right now, listen, years ago, you can watch my videos. We were back then talking about how it was going to unravel. There was no way he could continue to behave like this and not have it catch up to you. Yeah. Like I said, time reels everything, right? And it kind of just goes back to the point I made before. I've been guilty of it, right? When I first... I didn't come from money whatsoever. I was broke. I was poor.
When I started to make money, I made fuller spends. I'm going to get a bag. I'm going to get a bag. When you have a bag, you have money. When you're wealthy, that's what you have to do. Quickly realizing that's not actually happening. I have friends who are coaches who have money. They unlimited the amount of money and you see how they act. They don't act like that.
So when I see a lot of what Wes does, I see a lot of what I've done before. Now I never take to the limit to be like, hey man, I'm making all this money. I buy a bag to be like, hey, I can afford this bag now and I got a cool Gucci bag. To me it was like, I made this much money, it's an award for me, but it still made me feel a certain way. I was talking to my client about this, actually my appointment center, because he likes Wes Watson.
I'll tell them the same thing about the bag I had. Then I'm like, my client, when I go to trainer, she has a wicker basket next to her island in her kitchen. Nice, beautiful house. In that wicker basket is bags, like just bags, a good maybe $20,000, $30,000 of designer bags.
that are, you know, just chuck there when she goes picks one up, throws it over and goes out. You know what I mean? And that's when I was, when I looked at that, I remember one day it was like, here you are with your bag, thinking you're this and that. And this is like pocket change to somebody else. It's like people who have money don't try to show you they have money. So when a guy like Wes comes out of jail, like, you know,
He has like, cause again, like it's like seven years, like I said, any jail time sucks. Like I don't know. It will sing for five, for five months. Like, you know, like, you know, jail, jail sucks. Yeah. I need jail sucks. Seven years is, is, is, I don't, one year's respectful enough to be like, I don't care. But seven years in jail, I'm pretty sure seven years in jail, probability you're going through some natural shit. It's going to happen.
No one's going to get out, get in jail unscathed in seven years. Some shit's going to happen to you. So you'll most likely end up having some legitimate stories in jail, whether you experienced it yourself or you've seen it close up and personal. All of what he experienced in jail for seven years is, again, agree with you, didn't have to be touched. That alone could have been like, ride that story and stay there. But because he
probably wasn't from money, probably didn't have money before or, you know, had kind of like wealth in his life, gets out, sells his story, his story makes money. He's now getting money, has no clue what he actually has to do with it or how to, you know, how to really care himself like a person who actually has money. And then what happens, most people that happens is like, you know, I know people self who've got, who've got money,
You know, when the YouTube game and all of a sudden they got a ton of money and you see them change, you watch them change. And you watch people change that have never really had that kind of money before because people who have money, they know how to act. And they're not influenced and their life isn't changing all of a sudden. So a guy like Wes is going to come out with a story that he could have easily wrote and never had any shit happen in the first place. I'll respect the guy. I don't give a fuck. You're in jail for a year, seven years. Doesn't matter. I respect that.
But to fabricate it to the lengths that he did to now, he has to play this role. He doesn't really know how to handle money and he's got to tell everybody he has money. He's a perfect example of the opposite of what he says. If someone says they have a lot of money, they probably don't have a lot of money. They say they're super strong, they're probably not that strong. They say they're dangerous, they're probably not dangerous. They say they're fucking alpha, they're probably not alpha. And then you watch it happen.
It's sad, but it's a very common thing that people get on. It's YouTube in general, to be honest, because YouTube is the platform where you can recreate who you are. You can come on here, and if not a lot of people really know you, or if you're that dumb to think people aren't going to do a background checks on you, if you're that arrogant, you'll come on here and you'll try and act like something that you aren't. And right now, there's a lot of guys getting exposed. There are a lot of people who are now
They're just getting exposed because they're being unnecessarily arrogant, saying things in interviews where it's exposing who you actually are.
West isn't immune to it, you know what I mean? And now here he is, where it's like, he's not going to recover from this. There's no fucking way he's going to recover from this. Unless he comes out and like, I'll tell you this, there's always one out on YouTube. There's always one out. And it's the ultimate apology.
right? Everyone has one one ultimate goal and he won't do it. He won't do it, right? But but but that shows that shows somebody's like humility, right? If you effed up now, the liver king tried that shit and didn't work because like we all knew he was like lying. He's like a piece of shit. But Wes is like Wes came on was like, yo, man, like,
I mean, I fucking blew it. Like, I can't be like, you know, you know, like, I didn't have the money much money before I thought this would, you know, I just, you know, I was, you know, all these, all the things that we know, and came on, but this is why I did this. And, and, you know, I thought it would create more of a persona, I thought I would do this, people give him a pass, because he still went to jail for seven years, still, he still did these things, or there's still that underlying truth about him.
but there's also like, it was unnecessary, like completely unnecessary. Like I have my, my life's, I got a lot of things in my life that have had some great roller coasters, you know, some awesome terrible ups and downs, whatever. And I can easily fabricate the shit out of it. Cause I got blood, I got tattoos, I can make, you know, I get people like I'm old enough. So my story goes way back before internet time. So I can, I can fabricate all the shit I want, but you know, eventually it's like,
How long can you act on that for? Because eventually you have to live a lie. Right. And that's exhausting. Right. I was going to say, like, I was living a lie before prison. Living a lie. And listen, I'll tell you something. This is what a buddy of mine told me one time.
I always like to say that I think he stole it from Einstein, but he says he didn't. He gets upset when I say so. And it was that you cannot go to prison. This is really one of the things that really kind of made it click for me. And he said you cannot go to prison and continue to behave in the manner that got you to prison and then leave prison and not expect to come back.
and that's the whole thing is that and for example for me like I left prison extremely humbled and I think that's what happened with West that's why when he first came out he was reasonable you know I'm saying he was reasonable you know he was still kind of a kind of an act that did the tough guy thing which is kind of a jackass move but maybe he's just a that's just who he is I don't know but
I think he had been humbled and I think he was probably in a much better frame of mind. And I know I was when I first got out of prison and you know, I was super happy just that just to be able to watch YouTube, just be able to turn the channel, just be like I moved into, I stayed in the halfway house for seven months. I lived in a rooming house in a room for, you know, I rented a room for this from someone.
And for 18 months, I, you know, the first car I had, I remember I had to go to Miami a couple of months, two, three months when I got out of prison, I had to borrow my mother's car because the vehicle I had was not going to make it to Miami. You know, like that's how bad it was. It's like, Ooh, this is dicey. Don't want to be halfway there. Had to borrow my mommy's car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
you know my opinion of me and there's maybe one or two other people in my life that their opinion means something to me and other than that that's it yeah so i ended up buying another car kept it for about i had the car for about two years so and when i moved into the place i am now and i do youtube out of here i've been doing youtube for six or eight months and
One day I realized, and I had a brand new car, by the way, and I was thrilled with this car. It was brand new. You know, it was like, wow, wasn't a great car. It was like a, what was it? Oh gosh, I can't even remember. It was a, um, it was a, um, a Jeep sport something. I mean, really like a chick's Jeep, you know, but
But anyway, I was driving it and it had a little screen in it and it had a warranty. It was brand new and I was excited. And after I'd had it maybe a year or almost probably two years, let's say, and I moved in here, I've been in this place for about eight months, nine months. It dawned on me one day that I hadn't, I'd driven my car once in the last month. Because I wake up in the morning and my wife takes us to go work out at LA Fitness.
and my wife drives us back and when we would go somewhere typically like sometimes she would drive right or maybe I take my vehicle and we'd go somewhere to go to dinner and come back but that wasn't happening a lot right like I'm trying to get on my feet I'm not like I get a lot of money
and and then I remember when I thought to myself I haven't driven my vehicle but one time in last month and then last month I drove it maybe three times and the times that I drove were like to go pick up dry cleaning or go to the store to get to get creamer like I didn't need to do that I could have just called my wife and said hey when you come home can you pick up creamer yeah I don't need this vehicle and I'm paying $700 a month with insurance and everything else and I remember I she came home one day and I went
Listen, I'm going to, I'm going to trade my car in. Yeah. And she goes, well, I said, well, I was just thinking about this. Like I'm, I don't go anywhere and I'm paying $700 a month and I could Uber 10 or 20 times and not come up with 700 bucks because everything's right around here. And I went, if I really have to go somewhere, then I'll just take your car. And she goes, yeah, if you want to do that, that's fine. I haven't had a car in over a year. Yeah. What's Watson cannot imagine.
not having a vehicle. When I tell people, when I show up somewhere in an Uber or something and I go to dinner with someone and I walk out and I call my, oh, I'm waiting for my Uber. They go, you know, what's up with your car? And I go, Oh, I don't have a car. And they're like, well, I mean, why, what's up with that? I'm like, I just don't need one. I never drive one. So I just Uber and they, people look at you like, like,
because people are they're tied to that kind of thing that's like a representation of them and it's super important to them and I think when I went to prison it broke me all the way down and I kind of was able to rebuild my psyche the way I wanted to live and that's tough because there have been times listen I am an arrogant cocky narcissistic prick
It is a struggle for me not to do the whole look at me, look at me, look at me. Yeah. Yeah. No. And so every once in a while, you know, luckily I have my wife with me and every once in a while I'll meet a fan or something like, Oh my God, bro, I watch all your stuff. You're amazing. You're dead. And I'll be like, amazing. Did you hear that? He said amazing. She'll be like, you're not all that. Yeah. Well, I'm lucky. Wes obviously doesn't have anybody in his life like that.
Yeah. Yeah. You have to have somebody to, you know, to yank your brains. You do, you do, but you're also like, it's like, I I've, I've, I'm still going on a journey of like self-awareness and emotional intelligence or something like I've been, that has been my 100% my main priority for the over a decade. And I can tell you that even for you saying this, it's, it's not just like you need someone that's in your corner.
the fact that you want to do it the first place, right? Like it's like, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like how much you, how many people could be near. You might have the, the, you might have all the right people in this corner. I met some people that know Wes Watson that I talked to that, you know, swear that Wes is this and that and the other. And I'm like, you seem like a good cat. Right. And you know, maybe he has a lot of people like that in his corner, but he just, you know, it's up to that person. You have a level of self-awareness.
that majority people just do not have. Like for me, getting a car for me was a massive thing because for me it was like freedom. I can now drive and I used to not have money to be able to buy a car. My first car, my mom co-signed for me and it was a Hyundai Sonata and I got my boy to put some
some like, you know, subs in the back and shit. And you know, I mean, couldn't afford gas or it was like gas sometimes there's only maybe 20 bucks a tank at a time. And then the oil was never done because the car went to put because it was never done because I couldn't afford getting the oil done. Right. So the current side. So the car had for like a year is now gone. Right. My favorite analogy when it comes to like when it's when I talk about bodies and cars, I'm like, if you don't put gas, if you don't put oil in your car,
The best car in the world, if you don't do it enough times, car's done. Your body, you cannot give it food or the right oil, it'll still run. The body is 100% efficient, the car is like 33% efficient. I got the analogy from my life experience of like, you know, I want a car, I'm gonna get a car, can't afford the car, now I don't have the car, the car is gone, right? So for me, it was like, you know, getting that, then the second car I got, it was like, okay, now we need a car because it needs to be practical, and we need to get around and works over here, I got to get the clients and that and the other.
And it's like material things, material wealth is very hard for people to really separate from value and the self-worth. And when you're someone like, you like myself, because I have to be very aware of that, I have a gold chain on, I have a gold watch, this is on. People are like, you wear gold. The only reason why I have gold is because for the longest time I couldn't wear jewelry because number one, I couldn't afford jewelry.
But I had to get, it had to be like, it had to be stainless steel or something because I'd break out. So I have like these like rings around my neck that were like just itchy and stuff. And gold for me actually doesn't break out at all. Even some silver as well. I was like, I've always wanted to wear gold, but couldn't wear gold. I got this from my friend anyway, either way. It looks good. But for me, when it comes to like my self-worth and value, it's a journey that is consistent of self-awareness to know that you have to be able to separate yourself from
the material things that you think that are going to make your life that much better or make you think that people receive you in a different light if you're wearing a certain type of clothes, X, Y, and Z. And if you don't have this awareness, you end up draping yourself in this expensive costume that underneath the costume is still this person faking to be in this outfit, then eventually time is going to be like, you're not that person. And wherever you're at when that day comes could be like,
you know, an event catastrophic like this for Wes, or just like, you know, one of those days you're like, wait a minute, this is fucking stupid. What am I doing? And you just kind of get rid of it and kind of dumb your things down and you kind of get, you know, get back to ground zero and live. But yeah, but it has to be like a moment of self-awareness that you have to decide yourself. So like you're, you are, you know, you're not, you're not the normal person like at all. You know what I mean? So yeah.
I think yeah I was gonna say it's funny I remember I had a buddy who was a real estate agent he was going to buy a new car and he was a new real estate and he was like yeah what do you think I should get and I went I mean you get something with four doors and he was like why I said well because you're gonna be driving clients around in it but he was 25 years old you know I'm saying this is what this is 20 years ago 25 years old he comes back with like
You know, like a Nissan, this was back in like the 350s had come out, like he comes out like a 2C. I'm like, what do you do? Well, just tell them to follow me. And I'm like, what?
You know what I'm saying? Like, use your head, bro. You know, he's a kid. He's a child. And so I can see having nice, I would have a nice vehicle, but see, to me, a nice vehicle is not something that's $200,000. It's a vehicle that's, you know, 50, 60,000, maybe 100,000. Not even that, but something that if I had to drive clients around or, you know, I'm bringing my
You know what I'm saying? I just wouldn't spend, I just can't imagine spending the kind of money that this guy spends. It wouldn't matter if I had it or not. I wouldn't spend it. It's just like you had said, I've known lots of guys that were multimillionaires. So I used to, you know, do real estate and I would borrow money from hard money lenders. So you have a hard money lender meet you at the house, right? Like let's say I want to go buy a house for a hundred thousand dollars because I'm going to renovate it and I'm going to try and sell it for two or three hundred thousand. You have a hard money guy come there and he looks at the house.
These guys are lending. They have credit lines with worth two or $3 million. They have four or $5 million in the bank. They're living in a house that and keep them. This is 20 years ago. They got a house that's $3 million. They're showing up in a 10 year old Volvo, right? Yeah. And they're in blue jeans and a t-shirt or maybe maybe an eye, you know, an eyes on they've had for five years and they get out and you're like,
this guy doesn't
They're not jerk-offs, they're not screaming and hollering, screaming, look at me, look at me. What are you driving? Oh, you're driving that piece of shit. You know, the tire on my Bugatti cost with your car. It's like you're so trying so hard to prove. Yeah. It's like you're going broke, proving to everyone you have money. Right. It's just silliness. And it is so insecure that this is how you behave. You saw him on that, the fresh and fit.
That's the first time I saw him. I saw him before. I'm sorry. I saw him a couple of times before, but the first time I saw him was on that panel. And he started yelling at that dude about having bitch tits and this and that. But I'm also so anti-red pill. That whole group of people. And he's one of the
the few left over from the Red Pill Manosphere era, right? Like the, you know, Fresh and Fit, the Andrew Tate, the, all the, you know, Red Pill bullshit. And all those guys, when I saw them come out, like all of them, I'm like, these guys are just insecure dudes. It's just like Red Pill, like what the fuck you talking about? So yeah, the first time I saw him was that one time and I'm like, this guy's a joke.
I would say I'm probably 80% on board with those guys. But the 20 the problem is I feel like 20% of you know, I'm saying like, like, yeah, I'm okay with the, you know, act like a guy. I act like a man wake up early. Yeah, work out work provide like that's 80% of what they're saying. The problem is they they take it too far.
So yeah, a bully like now you take it to a point and then you become you start becoming a bully and that's not acceptable. Now you're great. You start to the point where you degrade people were you going too far? What was one of the things that do the Andrew Tate thing where he started saying, you know, the you should be able to have as many wives as you want. You should be like
Listen, bro, stop, stop, stop that the culture that you live in the Western culture that you live in is what it's what built, you know, this country, your country, you know, Western society is based on Christian values. And you're talking about, you know, you don't need to get married. You have as many wives as you want. They do what you say. They're your property there. It's like, Oh, listen, bro, it's too much what you've gone too far.
Find a wife, be happy, have children, work hard, provide for your family. And that's really the recipe to a successful, you know, be faithful.
That's successful for that. That is the recipe for a successful life. Treat people how you want to be treated. Like this is the same stuff that your father told you. Yeah. Yeah. This is, you know, but the other stuff that standing on stage, calling this guy, you know, having bitch tits and fat and he's disgusting. You're not rich. If, if you don't make, this is something that I'm great. Oh gosh. What's his name? Um, Graham, not Graham. Uh,
I forget his name. Anyway, gosh, it's right on. I can picture his face too. It makes me want to punch him. Um, wait, he, no, he's a, he's a real estate investor. Yeah. The Cardone or thank you. Yeah. He got on stage and he was yelling at like he's, first of all, people are paying, they're paying two, $3,000 to see you. Some are paying 10,000. Some are paying, you know, 15, 20,000, 30,000 to come see you. And the guys in the back, he's calling losers.
Did I just pay five grand for you to call me a loser? And then he has this thing where he says, if you're not making four hundred thousand plus a year, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're a loser. So you just called the guy that stocks the the the shelves at the grocery store a loser. You just called your butcher a loser. You just called fast food workers. They're all losers. The guy that sells you your car is a loser. The mechanic that keeps us the people that keep this country running.
Yeah. 90% of the country, you just called losers. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're just a scumbag, bro. Like that's just a scumbag thing to say. And not just that, your values may be off. Some guys, they don't, I'm not saying they turn down 400,000. Some guys, they make up 50 or 100,000 a year. They teach their little kids basketball or, you know, the T-ball
and and they're married and they get to have dinner with their family every night and that's that's what they wanted out of life so your values are different than their values right right you're saying they have to have your values or they're a loser like come on yeah nice i saw it's yeah we're on the same you're how you're how you're about my how old are you you're my age no way bro i'm way older than you i'm 100 i'm 55 years old i mean you look pretty young so i just chill it man you look look good
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I agree. I have to rewind because I know your boy will probably put this out in snippets and then someone's gonna be like, John's not an alpha male dude. I'm not an alpha male dude. I do believe, so 19 years ago, a buddy of mine was like, you need to read the rational mail. And I'm like, what's that? And then like, if you know the rational mail is, it's the guy who started Manosphere alpha male stuff. He's writing stuff where like,
Back years ago, so I actually I started reading this stuff and the stuff you do and is in the rational mail looking up It's pretty good. But it's basically every principle that all the red pill stuff is from is from this dude The guy who created the rational mail so I'm all for because I studied it I understand what I understand it to the actual principles of it and the principles of it I do agree with I do agree with some of it like I
I do agree like yes of having a family is a really good thing being a man of the house is but being a man of the house doesn't mean that my wife is some submissive useless you know just do dishes
My mom's 82 this year. My dad just turned 86 today. And my mom was cooking and working. And my mom would slam my dad upside the head if he was acting up. But I didn't grow up in a, the women should do nothing at all. They should be serving you and they're dumb and they're stupid. That kind of stuff. I was like, you guys hide some pretty good stuff. And then if you want people to actually change their thought process in terms of like,
only fans of stuff and, you know, actually making a point that, yeah, only fans. Yeah, you're making money, but it's not going to do much for you in the end. And like, you know, yeah, the guy that the guy that you want to want to be with is probably not going to want to be with an only fans. That's normal to say that, but it's also to degrade the person too. It's not going to sell too much either. Right. So, so I want to like make that clear that I get it. I think, you know, I think the guy that really resonates with me is Jordan Peterson.
Yeah, he's a Canadian cat, but I got my ups and downs with him. He's one of the guys who is... So a lot of stuff he says I agree with, but he's also one of those guys who are extremely intelligent in their field, and then they talk out of their field. And they just say things that
kind of like go in circles and they're really saying much other than what they actually do know. I do agree with a lot of stuff that he does say. I can pinpoint a lot of things. I disagree. Do I not like him? I like him still. I still think he's a brilliant mind. Yeah, I don't have to. I don't have to like everything about you to like somebody. Yeah, I think he's a brilliant mind. Do I think he's like, you know, the man of just some things that I don't agree with. But again, when it comes down to it, that whole like Manosphere red pill stuff is that's where he's that's where
That's where Wes Watson is from. When the pandemic happened, the pandemic brought YouTube like a new breed of creators. And then I think it was during that time, that's when everything really, like, you know, the Black Lives Matter and, you know, the Me Too movement, all these things. And then Alpha Male, Red Pill Manosphere came out and like everything,
There's always truth to the foundation and then the wrong people driving the fucking vehicle. And that's what it is. And that's basically what happens is you get these guys who have these, you know, they take the bright insights of, you know, the traditional nuclear family values and all that stuff. And then they sprinkle it with a bunch of bullshit that is rage bait and it sells because if you look at it like,
Yourself what you preach should have millions of people following it You should be able to sell out fucking stadiums from your story, right? Because it's a real one. It's a it has a real it has real, you know Meaning it has real, you know Success, but people don't want that they want to pay Grant Cardone They want to pay the idiots who are gonna sell you and tell you you're a fucking loser because you make under if you don't got 36 houses
By the time you're 12, but they'll pay for that. They'll pay for Wes Watson. They'll pay Wes Watson money. I don't feel bad for a person that calls out Wes Watson and gets fucked over. I don't. If you can't see that you're getting fucked over, if you can't see from the start, old saying is only fools get fooled by fools.
Yeah, the more he talked, the more I was like, no, no, you know,
And then some of them were just flat. I was like, that's just absolutely untrue. Like nobody, nobody behaves like this, you know? Last year, we started off last year with, with, uh, cat Williams, basically dropping the ball on everybody. I'm sure you saw that. Yeah. And then like not, not, not too much longer. Everyone's getting dismantled. It's P diddy.
All the things that we're wondering about with these cases and these
We're going to see the results of all those. Who's going to be on the list of names? What's going to happen to Wes Watson? Who's the next fake guy? There's a lot of guys even in our fitness industry that are slowly being exposed as being not exactly who they say they are. I think this is that year that in the numerology number nine is a year of
John's tirelessly, he needs to be like an FBI or something like he's in the wrong profession.
The amount of stuff he gets out of this, I don't know. It's pretty crazy. I'm actually doing a video tomorrow with a guy who has a whole conspiracy theory based on the fires in LA.
I mean, you know, because there's all these theory and it's so funny because I remember thinking like, I'm kind of listening to the theories. I'm like, oh, come on. And then, and then Gavin Newsom comes on and it's already talking about rebuild. Like they're still burning. Yeah. You're talking about, yeah, we've got a whole new plan. We're going to do this. We've been talking to it. It's like, bro, people are still, they're still finding bodies. Yeah. You know, it's,
And he's in front of a bunch of burning buildings and he's all smiling. What are you doing, bro? Your whole system burned down because you're an idiot. I think we're in for a year to just, you know what I mean? I think a lot of us, I don't know if maybe you agree, but my last year was a challenge.
Like it was like a very challenging year and I got through it and I definitely am grateful for the challenges because it made me stronger. And I feel like this year it's like, what else can you do to me, man? I'm ready for this year. But I feel like this year is going to be one of those like, it's going to show us a lot of the finished stories of a lot of things that were kind of like still waiting for, you know what I mean?
And be honest, people are getting sloppy. The more and more technology evolves, the more we see how sloppy humans are in terms of them being honest, being a little how loyal they are, what kind of information they actually want to put out or find out our governments aren't as honest as they were or health system or all these things that we're seeing more and more of.
The more technology starts to evolve, the faster word gets around. You can't hide anymore. You can only hold lies for so long. Your secrets are no longer ever secrets. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm definitely after the whole vid situation. I look at things a little more skeptically. I'm a little more of a skeptic.
I'm not sure how that's possible, but yeah, I hear you. It's possible. We'll see. We'll see. It'll be an interesting year.
Yeah, yeah. Listen, hopefully people just keep watching YouTube. I just need people to watch myself. I was watching stuff with YouTube. It's funny when you're talking about like, how's YouTube doing this and that? And I always watch because I'm always trying to look up for whatever, you know, and I'll watch this one creator and like people are watching YouTube differently. If you recognize that your views or some are subs or whatever, it's because of this. And I was like,
Okay, I know for sure that they're actually are listening to us because I know it's a fact. Like there's no, there's no if ands or buts about it. Your phone's on, you got to turn it apart. I forget what it is, but if your phone's on right now and you're talking, it is listening to what you're saying. So as soon as I got off and it was on, I was like, what the hell? And she was literally saying that people are watching YouTube way differently now than last year. They're like, people are
They used to watch it because they want to be informed. Now they're watching it before. Even last year, they're recognizing that they're watching it out of sheer habit. They're doom scrolling. They're watching stuff on YouTube just because they're watching it. Now a lot of people are being more aware of what they're watching. Now they're just dropping off things that they no longer want to have interest in. There's a lot of things that are happening with viewers
in
I was going to say, what I equated us having a
our numbers were down and partially and no it started in you know in November and December but that was really we kind of we considered that as a result of the election because everybody was focusing they were consuming political content and then and then of course afterwards it was the aftermath
And now this month it's the same thing. It's just more of the same because now it's all the predictions of what Trump is doing. Every other day he's making some new decision and saying something new that is causing people to go
The left is going, ah, it's chaos. And the right's going, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so it's, it's once again, it's just more. So, you know, I was talking to Colby and we were hoping all of our, we're hoping all of our numbers, once he takes office, we're like, well, once he takes office, we're hoping, I'm thinking once he takes office, then it's probably even more of the same. So it may be another, I was thinking, yeah, once he takes office, it'll be, February will be better. But the truth is I'm thinking maybe March or April. Like we'll probably have a few bad months ahead of us.
Yeah, I think it's just the way you purpose your content. Your content is great. I think if you play within some of the topics that are happening, keyword them and kind of get people in, I think you're probably fine. Yeah, that's kind of why we're focusing more on trending topics. We're going to try and do more trending topics like this.
Yeah, I personally don't think like, I don't know enough about the West Watson thing isn't enough. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not enough. It's not like engrossing because it's been done. And then it's hard because you can't show the video. And it's a it's a it's a timing thing. If you get when he gets charged and suddenly there's a bunch of articles. That's a whole nother way. Well, yeah, like so for me, I piggyback as soon as I as soon as you know, um,
John has a video out. I'll do a reaction to it immediately because if I do one, I know I'll get good views on it. If I do one after Greg Doucette gets it and then someone else gets it, I'm like, this thing's not getting anything. So it's like, you gotta like, when it comes to reaction and stuff, it has to go out immediately. If you wait for a day, like, cause the videos I put up, like you usually post every, you know, um, five days a week on a 12 o'clock, you know, a noon time or one o'clock.
And it will get you views when it's a reaction video the West Watson stuff I could literally put it up like I was like it's a video right now. I'll do a video I'll do a recording like I put this out and I'll be like, you know eight o'clock at nighttime and I'll get really good views because people are in people are just interested in what's going on Right more your perspective on it, you know, you just gotta like you can't you can't say the same thing that he's saying It's like, you know, they know that coming to my channel
they're going to get a good perspective of like, what's your perspective of this situation? And especially if you know people that are involved in it too, or, you know, because me and John are buddies and people know that we've, you know, we've, you know, talked about each other's channels. It's like, it's almost like a collaboration in a sense where, you know, I want to, you know, I know this, I know the situation, but I want to hear this guy's point of view on this. And what does this guy say about this thing too? And it becomes this like, you know, round table almost. So it's, it's, it's all about like,
When you post it and then like how how you deliver what you're saying, right? Because again, like you can have somebody watch it and if they're like fuck this video sucks like, you know, 30 seconds there goes your views, right? So it's yeah, it's it's uh, I think I think you I think you get a lot out of the video to be honest, like it's it's a good topic. It's um, there's a lot you can learn from the situation on a lot of fronts like we've covered a lot and it's like like I said, like when it comes to YouTube,
You got to be, you got to stay who you are. Cause if you decide to be something and you start getting views because of that, you have to stay that person. Right. As soon as you deviate from there, people don't want to watch your content. It's like the same thing for me. It's like, I almost got pigeonholed into just doing only fucking training videos. Like if I talk and I, I made sure that I did, like I have four pillars, nutrition, training, supplementation, mental health.
So any kind of video I put out, it has to have some of those pillars in there, but in some degree. So at one point it was almost like if you don't do how to do this or a best 5 worst video, you're not getting views on anything. So I made sure that I did different types of content so I don't get watered down or pigeonholed.
Well, we'll see what he does with this. We'll see what happens over the next year. Exactly. You know how court works. Remand, delayed, remand, delayed, push it off.
That's like a year's worth of content coming out. So what is the name of your channel? Johnny Shreve. Okay. Yeah. It's like Johnny Shreve Fitness, but it's just Johnny Shreve. It's the easier cost brand. Everything's Johnny Shreve. Right. JohnnyShreve.com. JohnnyShreveFitness.com. Johnny Shreve. Same thing. Makes it easy. Do you do TikTok? You know what? I know I do and I don't. I hate TikTok. I just,
It's just another platform. It's like, ah, I learned the algorithm and this apparently is going to get canceled pretty soon. Well, and if they're in Canada, you can't monetize it. You can't. So yeah, that's another thing too. Like it's like you, so you can, you can't. So here's how you can, you can by getting a VPN and, or get somebody to manage your channel in the States, which is ridiculous. So, but yeah, like our, our, our laws, like our, you know, our government actually is our, our prime minister literally just stepped down.
Yeah.
When it comes to Bill C-11, it's actually a censorship act. They brought back and disguised it as another fucking whatever. But it literally effed our views. We can't post certain things. I can only see CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC if I have my VPN on. If I don't, it's blocked.
Are they going to be able to reverse that when the new guy comes in? So that's one of my tests to see if things actually change because it's a very easy thing to change. That's something that he put in because he heard about the
the freedom rally with the trucks that drove across Canada to the capital and we're going to make a bunch of change, whatever. Because of stuff like that, he put in this law so there wasn't any more misinformation that was put around XYZ. So for me, that's a very easy thing to tell if our government's going in the right direction if they cancel out things that he's put in place.
And that's a very easy thing to be like, hey, man, that shouldn't be there. Take it away. There you go. But if that doesn't go after he's gone, then I'm like, for sure you guys are just a bunch of jokes. The government's just saying what they want to say to make sure that we keep our mouths shut or we can fuss enough but not too much to actually make any type of real change. So we'll see if that happens. He also stepped down but made it so nothing could happen until March.
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"text": " you've now you like West may have had a one-on-one with the guy because he showed up and that probably would have been okay no charges but when these other guys jump in it took on a whole new situation like they have no right to jump in and then when the guy hit the ground and he kept kicking him whether it's whether you're saying it's serious or not"
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"text": " Which I agree and I can have something to say about that But but the fact that once the guy was down and he was retreating and you kept kicking him. Okay, your your stand your ground has Disappeared at this point like that's over, you know, like like your whole defense for he approached me Yeah, he approached you he didn't approach you and all of your buddies, right? And then he certainly went once you were no longer a threat like you can't"
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"text": " You keep kicking the guy, you know, so he has an issue there. But and I can tell you right now, like having been in prison and seeing fights, listen, a 30 second to a minute fight is a long time. That's a long time to fight, even if you're in good shape. Yeah. So the other thing is, and I always hate this about movies. Matter of fact, we were watching my wife and I watched the last episode of Landman the other day."
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"text": " And this guy, these guys are punching this dude in the head. I mean, he's got like a bag over there. They're smashing them and smashing them and they're, they're doing all this, you know, really, really beating the hell out of him. Of course, when it's over, he gets up and he walks away. He's cut up and bloody a little bit. Doesn't go to the hospital. And I might listen if a guy punches you four or five times to the face and really connects. And this guy had no defense. He's got a bag over his head so he can't even see it coming. Yeah."
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"text": " your nose is broken caved in probably your eye socket is probably broken and caved in your jaw you're missing teeth there was one punch where it was right here you you're missing teeth like that you've got at least a couple of teeth are caved in and he's an old guy he's a 65 year old man so i'm saying the guy on on uh yeah on landman so i'm saying having been in prison and seeing fights i can tell you right now i saw a fight one time and at the end of the fight and it was like a minute and a half and it went on forever yeah"
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"text": " The guy had a bunch of dreads pulled out of his hair out of his head. He had there was a tooth laying in a pool of blood. I mean, it was brutal. Yeah, brutal. And these guys beat the I mean, broken noses. I mean, their faces are rearranged. And to be honest with you, these weren't these were two guys that were probably in their 40s or 50s. You know, I'm saying like these were not like 25 year old guys, 30 year old guys."
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"text": " like they should not have been fighting like you're not in a position you know they're in good shape but for god's sake your body just doesn't hold up well and you're at 40s and 50s to be fist fighting yeah what's really funny about that is that whole fight started because in prison you kind of have a space"
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"text": " This is where my chair sits. I watch TV. I've been here. This is my space. The other guy sat in his space and he said, Hey bro, I've been here. I've been in this for, I've been here for 10 years. That's my space. The guy's like, all right, man, gets up and leaves. He's like, do me a favor, bro. Like, don't sit there again. You know, this is my little piece of real estate. Yeah. And"
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"text": " the next day he comes in the guy sitting got his chair sitting in his space again and he went he looked walked in and stopped and I was there like I looked over because I'd seen the first I just happened to see first altercation and the next day I happened to be there again just by coincidence looked over saw him walk in the door looks at the other guy looks where he is and goes walks upstairs goes to the broom closet gets a broomstick"
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"text": " comes back downstairs walks up behind him and smashes him in the back of the head with the broomstick the guy just falls over boom hits the ground he's out yeah the other guy walks upstairs with the broomstick and about you know 10 seconds later he comes to he stumbles around a little bit he realizes what happened"
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"text": " He goes up the stairs and then the fight for the next minute and a half, there's a, there's screaming, pulling hair, knocking into shit, falling. Prison's not a, it's not a good environment to fight in because everything's made of steel and concrete. So anytime you stumble or hit something like it doesn't move into a table, it doesn't move. Like anything you stumble into or hit, like you're, you're, you're, you're hurt. It's a lot of, yeah. Anyway,"
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"text": " I can only imagine if four guys jumped on a guy and really wanted to do some damage. I mean, you're, he probably shouldn't have stood up. Like, I don't know how, you know, so what do you, what are you suggesting? Do you think it was choreographed or you think? No, no, no, no, no, I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't think it's, so I want to make that clear. I did it in my video. Like I'm not saying it's choreographed."
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"text": " Okay. You know, I don't like, I don't like, you know, because I try to, you know, prize what I preach. I don't go, I'm like, hey, I know, I know this guy, this guy, this guy. You know, I've been like, you know, my life, my life led me to past to experience a lot of things. So when I, when I see, when I see things like this happen, I don't look at it as like, oh, you're faking it. I look at it as like, you don't have this, you don't have the, the stomach."
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"text": " to actually be that kind of person. Okay. You don't have the stomach to actually want to hurt somebody, right? You want to act like you're tough. You want to act like you can hurt somebody. You want to act that way because if you actually did, you would have, you would like, so, so for instance, when he took his belt off, he first time he flinches at the guy at the, at the black guy, right?"
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"text": " He does this and then that guy moves away. And then it isn't till his other buddy goes behind him and then push them back. And then he actually, you know, hits him with a belt. He gets him a couple of times with tight toys to the belt, right? He's telegraphing things, right? Right. It's like, here's your way. Here's your way out. I kind of don't want to do this. You know what I mean? Right. When you, when you're around people like, you know, you've been around people that I can say that you've been around people that you know, for a fact,"
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"text": " They're either one of the killers, right? They don't care about human life. They don't. They have no regard for your safety. They do not care, right? There are those people in the world that do not care. A buddy of mine has died from a guy like that, right? It happens. Those kind of people don't have to say who they are. People know who they are. If you're unlucky to be in a situation with them, it's guaranteed that you're either dead or in a hospital."
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"text": " The guy like Wes Watson and all his buddies aren't those guys. They're not choreographing, they're not faking it. They're carrying out the"
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"text": " the persona that they had to act and be. He's got to act like this tough guy. He's got to act like this dude. To be honest, a real tough guy in this entire situation would be like, yo, guys, chill out. I'm going outside to take care of this. If he wants to walk out, if he does something funny, then whatever. I'm going to walk out with this guy. I'm going to take care of business and be back inside or whatever."
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"text": " That new timeline is me respecting Wes Watson to the nth degree. I'm like, yo, good shit, man. You talk a lot of shit and this and that, but you went outside and handled business. That's what a tough guy does. A guy that actually is as dangerous as Wes Watson was to act like he is, or a guy who's actually as tough as what Wes wants to act like he is, he does that one thing."
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"text": " He's just at a point where I don't give a flying fuck about going back. I don't care. We'll go back to jail. I'm going to kill you. And then that's what happens, right? There's guys who don't care if they go back to jail. Those guys are not the, those, those guys are, those guys are dangerous, right? And if that, and if the same guy, black guy, another lifetime walks up to these type of guys, that guy isn't getting up after 54 punches to the face, two kicks, two, two, two slaps by a, a, a belt, a weighted belt and hit with a dumbbell."
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"text": " You tell a little story with one guy who's walked the stairs casually and got a broomstick and hit him in the back of the head, right? I'm not telegraphing. They're not saying it. They're just going to take care of it, right? So for me, when I watch this, I'm like, this is the classic situation where you took things too far and now you had to act like something that you're not and you don't know how to act that way."
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"text": " and you're either for that life or you're actually not and he's not for that because he did something that he's like, you know damn well if you you're going to jail like you you're hopefully luckily you hope hope to God that something happens where they can be like, yeah, it was self-defense like all four of you guys need to do that like whatever that you know about the hope but just he doesn't want to go back to jail right he doesn't want to do that at all but he had to act he had to he had to carry out his act"
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"text": " He's putting on the show, which is not going to play well in front of a jury."
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"text": " Cause like right after he was like, he's like, yeah, I don't know if you saw him in, he said, pull the cameras, pull the cameras out, self-defense. As he literally said after this, I'm like, you're telling me you in your mind think this is pull the cameras, dude, like you're fucked. Like you went, you went way too far. There's no stand your ground laws and you pulled out a belt and whack the guy twice with it. Then punched him when he was on the ground, got up."
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"text": " To be able to say a full sentence, walk around a fucking bench and then kick him again and then continue to fight him after that. Like literally that's, that's, that's how bad it is. So it's like, and then what, whatever, whatever his buddy's going to say. Well, they, they're fucked too. Like is it more because they were never, they were never in danger."
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"text": " Right. Yeah. And in the moment too, because you could see it in John Brown's video, you can see who actually called the police. There's a guy that actually runs in to try and break things up. He's in there trying to pull things. And there's another thing I broke down. Because I look at things very in-depth and I'm like, this little man here who's got gloves on, who's probably the guy who cleans the gym, who takes care of stuff. That guy probably knows"
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"text": " Everybody in the gym the guy that cleans the gym knows everybody in the gym, right? Right. So he knows West Watson. He knows Dude, the guy came in the gym. He knows whatever and then you see the guy try and break it up, you know He can't break it up He gets up and you can see him running away and that I can tell that's the guy who actually went and called the police To stop it right because he comes back in and he's like pull the tape tells that bull tapes Whatever. So I look at this guy. I'm like this guy who's small goes in there as brave as he is it goes break this thing up and like"
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"text": " If Wes Watts is a dangerous cat and he's all things that he says, nobody is breaking that fight up. Nobody is. I've been in situations where it's like, don't get involved. Like don't not get involved. Like that guy came in here wanting to fight those guys."
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"text": " Go the fuck over there and don't care but don't get involved because it'll be your ass, right? So when a guy can be like, I'm gonna go in here and be mister, you know, save them all, which is good for him, like good for him for being that and caring, whatever, just goes to show me that what kind of person he knows that Wes Watson is, right? Wes probably deep down inside a really, really nice dude."
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"text": " Nice ass dude who's just probably you know, just you know trying to be this guy cuz there's a lot of guys like that who are in Doing you know, I know a lot of guys. I've known that and I'm getting charges It's like you didn't have you you came from a middle to upper-class family What are you doing? What are you doing selling drugs for like you need to do that shit? And then now you're now you got to go to jail because you fucked up It's like well like that's the life you tried to act. Do you not understand that? That's what comes with this life"
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"text": " You know what I mean? So it's like, Wes is probably a nice-ass dude who probably didn't do anything wrong with his life and was like, you know, got mixed up trying to figure out who he was and then all of a sudden he's in jail for a violent crime that he probably shouldn't have been involved in in the first place and that he's got to do seven years"
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"text": " and he's like man i fucked up and he seven years spends in there and sees some fucked up shit and he's still trying to because he's probably got to keep this persona or something while he's in jail and then seven years later he gets out of jail and he's like man humility to the fucking nth degree and he tells the story to one person and the person's like wow and he's probably got some good shit to say and you're like man that's fucking awesome he's like man i changed a guy's life and he's like and he says it again and"
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"text": " And he's like, oh shit, this story's pretty good. And then he's like, yeah, well, then I was actually the dawn of the fucking before that I was actually selling this and he's in his story gets this and that and he's got more tattoos. Realize he's got a shitty hairline and shaves his fucking head. And now he's renting cars and he's got to be this fucking dude. And then here we are today. That's I know, I know people, man, I can read people."
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"text": " Yeah, I don't think he was, I don't think he came out a nice guy. I don't think he went in a nice guy. I think he was always fucking meathead. He was probably meathead, but he wasn't to the extent of what, you know, I know him. I think the money and the fame."
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"text": " Always your biggest downfall is when you do nothing but surround yourself by sycophants who do nothing to tell you you're wonderful, like that's a major problem. Yeah, so it's funny, I always think about there was a guy I was locked up with"
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"text": " There's a lot of guys I was locked up with that like we're sick work. I don't want to say serial killers because they were typically paid like they weren't killing because they had a compulsion. They were paid like there was a guy a guy who was literally he got I think we get like 30 years 40 years."
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"text": " He gets 40 years. I mean, he cooperates. He gets 40 years. That was that was his that was the best deal he was going to get was 40 years for cooperating like you bring down like 30 guys and you still get 40 years. Yeah, so he killed I forget what it was 1520 people. Yeah. So he was"
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"text": " He was he was a Colombian. He's always loud, but he was you know, you would never know it. You would never know it talking to him, you know, and then I remember there's another guy we call them. It's they call them old man. I think was old man Jim. Anyway, and I remember one time we used to I painted when I first got locked up and I was in the painting room."
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"text": " And he would talk to me, nice guy, I'd help him carry stuff, you know, he's in his late 60s, very quiet. And he was placing paintings behind paintings and putting them up on the lockers, right? And he'd been told not to do that several times by the correctional officer, the CEO."
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"text": " And so finally the CEO comes in, this female CEO comes in and she starts yelling at him and she's like, Jim, what did I tell you? I told you last time if you fucking did that. And she starts screaming at him in front of everybody. And he looked at her and all of a sudden he just goes. And he starts laughing and he's trying not to laugh. She goes, what's so funny because I'm."
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"text": " I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's got you're right. You're right. I yeah, he said I'll get it down. I'll put it in the workshop. I'm sorry. I'm going to be mailing it out. It won't be here next week. And she was like, Oh, okay. So when I was helping him carry some stuff later that day, and we're walking, I said, Jim, I said, keep my I'll take it. So Jim was a very, very scared. You know, he'd murdered"
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"text": " Probably ten people. I remember he specifically murdered about five people that were actual witnesses against him in a crime. So we're walking and I go, I said, whatever, Lieutenant so-and-so was yelling at you. I said, why did you start laughing? And he goes, it dawned on me, he said, that if we were on the outside,"
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"text": " I had to cut that bitch's head off, stuck her head in the trunk of my car and driven around with it for a week till it started smelling. He said, but I'm in prison now and I have to just listen to her and take it. He is, and it just struck me as funny. And I just thought, and he, and he was like, his life's funny. And I thought, and he's not joking. And he was nicest guy. You'd never think. And the only reason I even knew"
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"text": " Why he was locked up because he was actually locked up for like a drug conspiracy. Yeah. And I used to, one of my buddies was like, you like Jim, huh? I was like, yeah, he's cool. I like Jim. He's a nice guy. And he goes, yeah, he goes, he is. He said, but you know why he's here, right? And I went for drugs. He said, yeah, yeah. He said, you understand? He said, but you have to understand Matt. He said, Jim went to trial or was going to trial in the state back in the, in the late seventies."
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"text": " I said, okay, back in the late seventies, you could, it was very easy to get out of a, like a county jail. There was lots of programs. It wasn't a lot of security. He said, you know, he said in the seven late seventies, he was going to go to go to trial. And I went, okay. He said, you know, he was a member of a biker gang and stuff. And he goes, and he had murdered someone and there were witnesses. And I was like, okay. He said, so he waited until about 10 days before his trial."
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"text": " when you get the witness list. And he said once his lawyer gave him the witness list, two days later, he escaped. He said, so a year later, he comes back to the jail and says, hey, my name is Jim so-and-so. He said, you guys are looking for me and they ran him. They're like, oh my God, yeah, you're escaped. And they put cuffs on him and they bring him into jail. They process him."
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"text": " And his lawyer shows up a week later and says, he says, I'm ready to go to trial. And they go, oh, you go, okay, it was going to take a month or two. Okay. So, you know, because they have to start over. Well, they find one of the witnesses was shot three times."
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"text": " another witness was had disappeared completely another one that he tied her true and these are this isn't what men these are like three women two men he tied to a tree cut her throat in the woods another one like all five witnesses are either missing or deceased and he knew"
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"text": " So he escaped. It took him a year to track them all down and kill them. And then he goes back to jail and says, I'm ready to go to trial. They held them for another five or six months trying to put something together. They eventually had to drop the truck, drop the charges. He walks out of jail. The feds come in and like a year later they grab them because the feds pretty much the federal government can pretty much grab you for anything. They put together a drug case. He was involved and he gets"
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"text": " 20 years in the feds and whatever the the point it or no I think it was like 30 years or something but the point is is like this guy was the nicest guy you'd ever meet he was he was truly dangerous and I've had friends that you're I'm sitting here eating I'm eating at the medium with three murders and all of them not like accused like they've murdered people nicest guys they'll linger hey you know you just got here let me get I'll give you some shower slides and hey bro uh you know"
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"text": " Yeah, Cox, you got no problem. Hey, I'll talk to so and so for you and see if I can get that taken care of. I mean, just nice guys. But the truth is they were truly, truly dangerous and they didn't have to pretend. Yeah, I don't have to scream and holler and tell you what a badass I am because the truth is I'm extremely dangerous. Right. Yeah. So that's that's"
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"text": " You know, and I'm not saying Wes Watten wouldn't beat my ass like a small child. I'm just saying in general, he holds a lot of bolstering. It's there. It's exactly what it is. And it's, it's, um, yeah, this goes though saying it's, you know, if it had been a fair fight, he wouldn't have fought. No, I mean, that's, that's why I didn't write this, like literally said, like, you know, he's like, come."
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"text": " West Watson is like, I made some jokes in the video. It's pretty entertaining. But, you know, he's like, yeah, come on over. Because when you see the first video, the first video, the video that you see when he went out, he's like, yeah, man, some seven foot, some big monster comes in, you know, seven foot five. He's obviously seven foot five. I have to, you know, I have to take care, whatever. It's like, but you didn't, you didn't take care of him. You didn't say, all right, bro, let's go outside. You guys stay here. You guys jumped in with, with weapons, right? Like, like they, they took him, they took him down."
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"text": " It's not like Wes punched him and then he went down and then they all got him. He got surrounded. And Wes hit him with a belt while the other guy was behind him, pushed him down and then Wes grabbed him and then started. So it was like a messy, you know, a collaboration of like, you're, you know, so it's like, you know, you're not tough, you know, you're not, and it doesn't matter what, like people still like, you know, will be like, yo, he's got a good message. It's like, you messed up the door."
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"text": " Your message means nothing. Like I said, in an alternate reality, Wes says, yo guys, chill out for a second, just watch, make sure he doesn't have boys outside and come make sure nothing happens. I'm going to take care of this. Then we're all saying, Wes is Wes is Wes."
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"text": " Hey guys, that's stand up for me, man. If he beats a dude's ass, cool, man. You literally told the guy to come down. If you want to be a troll and talk shit to you, come on down and talk shit to me and then you go outside and take care of it. Cool. And he had every opportunity to do that. Even if he got beat up, even if he got beat up, I would respect Wes Watson for going out and doing what he said and getting his ass kicked. I respect that. And nothing else, we would all respect it."
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"text": " There are guys you get into a fight in prison, guys will test you. And honestly, they don't care if you win the fight as long as you're willing to fight. That's what they're concerned with. They'll know, like, you know, the guy's not going to win, but I want to know if he'll fight. That's their concern. And that's funny you say that because it's like, okay, Wes has been to jail. And I'm sure Wes probably knows that as well, too. Right."
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"text": " right so if he's been to jail and he knows that has and understands that now he's in a setting where he asked it what would you do when you're if you were in jail west since you're a mr jail guy right you would have you would have fought him you would have been like hey guys help me you would have fought him because he would have been in the jail you'd have been like a pussy you'd have been like oh yo"
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"text": " This guy's what? Wait a minute, right? If you're in jail and you tell people, yo man, come and fight me, which you don't do, I'm sure you used to don't do that, but like say you did and you're an idiot and you do that. And one guy says, all right, cool. And comes up to you and you go to your boys like this. Hey guys, help me out. I'm sure, I'm sure of it. I'm sure the next thing after that is you fucked, right? So it's like all the things that Wes says he was in jail,"
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"text": " He's not in real life. All the experience he has while he's in jail for seven years, he expresses it the opposite when he's out. Even for yourself, when you have somebody who's been to jail before,"
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"text": " And they say that's because I saw a lot of the dismantling of West was from other guys who've been in jail. Plus, I know like, you know, I'm saying I know people in jail. I'm like, I'm sorry. It's not how you act at all. Like, no one does this. Like you can see immediately. No, that's not how you act like."
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"text": " You know, no one glorifies, you know, it's okay to have a story, you know, you made your story arc is you went to jail, you were humbled, and you made it out and it, you know, cleared your mind this and that, and you're living a different life. That's all for that story. But like when you glorify it, and you make that the pinnacle of your everything. Yeah, it's like, you know, at that point, it's like, yeah, you're, you're not who you say you are."
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"text": " So what do you, what do you think happens? I mean, I know you're, you're in Canada, so you don't, you don't really know the states. I know, I know enough. I know enough. Interested where they're charging charges. So I don't know yet. Um, cause it has like, it has to be like, you know, he's the guy says he wants to press charges. So I know here, like, you know, they're either going to get you or you turn yourself in, right? You need a process, right? So,"
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"text": " He's having it processed by going in himself or whatever, depending on all the evidence they're going to get from, you know, like, you know, the, the guy is going to obviously give him his cell phone because his cell phone catches, his cell phone catches everything, which is like his cell phone caught the entire, the entire angle. Right. And then the cameras from up top will catch the other angle."
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"text": " once they see that and he decides, but no, in Canada, you don't have to, you don't, you don't have to press charges. Um, you can, the, the, the crown here can be like, can see him like we're pressing charges. Like it's that's assault. Right. Whatever they add on. I don't know if he's, if he's going to say when they get all the evidence, it's like, Hey, by the way, I want to press charges on that guy, that guy, that guy, and that guy as well too. Right. Which I would, um, I think that if anything happens, Wes will get charged. Um,"
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"text": " You know, it also depends on who the guy is too. This guy could be... You know, he's definitely not a gangster because he's..."
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"text": " He's talking to the police. If that guy didn't press charges, then I'd be like, Wes is fucked even more. Because if that guy goes in there and he doesn't press, the cops say, if we were in that report and it says the guy didn't want to press charges, I'm thinking this guy is one of those dudes and you're now effed, Wes, because he's coming back and you're fucked. But he pressed charges. So he's not that kind of guy. So I think he'd probably get"
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"text": " you know, depends on how far I go with that. I think you could probably get whatever the minimum charge is for, but also Wes is also like a convicted felon. So he's, yeah, he's been in trouble multiple times. He's a criminal. Yeah. So I don't know how, what is, what is, uh, what is Nick? His parole, um, conditions are even, you know, like how long has he been out of jail for? Yeah, I'm sure he's off. Like typically, and there are exceptions, but typically you have like five years pay. Well, it depends."
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"text": " Typically you'll have like, there's like two years, three years and five years of probation. I don't know what it is in California. I'm assuming he got out and he had some kind of supervised release, like a probationary period, but he's been out for at least five years. So he's off of that. He's not on probation. I don't think he'll get probation for."
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"text": " an assault charge. If the guy hadn't, if it had just been a, an argument in the gym and these guys had attacked them, it'd be different. In fact, the guy went down there. He certainly, he certainly contributed to it, but, but West doesn't get to walk away because it's no long, it's not really, it's a, the very least it's an assault charge. Right. Yeah. It's a violent crime. And in Florida, they don't, they don't, they're not fans of violent crimes. Um, you know, once your charge was like, you can get it. You've got some leeway."
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"text": " But once you're charged, it's a problem. So, you know, he could, he could probably do a few years, but then again, you know, he's got money. He could, he could try and go to try. Yeah. I can't imagine him go to trial because all they really have to do is show, show his videos and how he behaves. And I don't see anybody on the jury being okay with his behavior. I mean, yeah. I think I might go like completely just like,"
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"text": " whatever you had to be careful I say, but he's a black dude in Florida. I don't know. A lot of things get a lot of things get passed when it's the, when it's the black guy being victimized or becoming victim or saying the victim or playing victim role or is the victim in that case. And it's not like he's a, you know, walking into a situation where it's, you know, he was minding his own business. He did contribute to that. And depending on what kind of jury in front,"
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"text": " And depending who it is, that could sway in the favor of Wes. Very slim. There's too overwhelming. Anybody in the jury that sees the way Wes behaves, thinks to themselves, I would be okay with him being my neighbor. Can they use some of this YouTube stuff?"
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"text": " I'm sure it helps contribute to the environment that he was creating. Come down here. You got a fucking problem. Come down here. I'll take you know, and they're like, look, this is how this is who this person is. Because he took it because he took he took it off."
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"text": " West has taken a couple things off already, which he knows now. That's clear. He's already. That's clear. Yeah. Yeah. So like, and like, which is like, which is like, you know, use your fucking brain. Like, what do you like? Like, for me, I'm, I'm always like, I'm always aware of my surroundings. I'm always aware. Like, there's like, who can see this? What's around? Like, what does my surround look like? There's no way this guy did that all that and was like, yeah, I'm good. Like,"
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"text": " There's three different camera angles on the entire thing, and violent. When you watch it, there's not one part of that video that looks like, one part, the guy's guilty. He pushes him, and that's it. He walks up, he's like, so what's up, basically, and then gives him a push, and then that's it. There's a stall, there's a little bit of a standoff for 10 seconds, maybe."
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"text": " right? And then it gets, you know, whatever. So if, with all the, when I see all the evidence that's there, him being already a convicted, you know, felon, I'm sure his records always stand. I was, I was seeing maybe two to three for aggravated assault when I was 18. And that was, and that was defending my, actually defending myself from two guys. And I put them both, I put them both in a coma, like two, I've knocked them both out pretty bad. I was younger, actually I was 17."
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"text": " I was turning 18 and I was, they were trying to chime me as an adult. Um, so I've got aggravated, like the, the highest crime for aggravated assault. Um, and that's, you know, that's just myself in Canada, right? Canada is a little more, has a little more leeway. A little more leeway in the States. So, you know what I mean? And you can like, you, and then the other top of that is like, he can sue them on top of it. So like, that's a, like that alone, like,"
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"text": " If Wes is smart, he tries to get his lawyer to go to the guy."
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"text": " and pay, you know, and whatever, give him 50 grand or something, you know, 100 grand to not to press charges or to kind of, you know, whatever."
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"text": " Huh? Does he have a hundred grand? He says he's got tons of money. I don't think he does. That's the thing. I don't think he, and it's going to be way more. If I'm, if I'm that kid and I'm not, and I'm not, and I'm not from a month, I'm not from the street kid. I'm a, I'm a normal ass kid that just got my ass beat by West Watson. I can promise that kid even went in there being like, Hey, if he, if he does not do this by like fair, I'm definitely pressing charges and I'm definitely fucking them over and a hundred thousand bucks. I don't know much. I don't know much. Uh,"
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"text": " insurance would be or for a hospital visit plus stitches plus whatever you'd have to"
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"text": " you know, I'm thinking he's, if I'm saying if Wes is smart, he tries to get this guy to take a hundred thousand dollars and Wes ends up pleading guilty and doing three years, you know, on probation, that would be the best kind of deal he could possibly get. I think, yeah, no, you could do that. You could make that argument, but let's say, you know, or maybe, maybe Wes ends up getting a year. See, if the kid's smart,"
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"text": " West takes the charge, then he sues him because now he's admitted he's done something wrong. He's gone and allocated. He said, look, I was wrong. I pled guilty to an assault charge. I'm now on probation. Now, guess what? Now we're going to go to trial. What is your defense going to be at trial that you weren't wrong?"
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"text": " I'm sure if you don't have the money, you're getting legal aid and then you're getting the least amount of help. No, but lawyers would be lined up to that. All they got to do is go on Wes's channel and look at all of his stuff. Yeah. If I'm a greasy lawyer or whatever, I'm going to be like, hey kid, by the way, here's how much money we can get from this and here's what you do."
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"text": " I had a buddy of mine in elementary school that was on a field"
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"text": " Got pushed out of a window on the at the in Chicago on a field trip in Chicago pushed out of the window Cracked the window got pushed fellow fellow. I think I made a store something like that and he sued the school board and it took him like 70 years for it to go through and get him to get like I don't think you got like a million I don't think I know maybe like half or something like that, right? That's that's Canada States"
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"text": " You own half of Chicago. You sue Chicago. You sue everybody, you know what I mean? Like I said from the beginning, Wes is screwed regardless. I don't know how he's going to"
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"text": " Drops the charges and the state doesn't pick up the charges. I don't think the state would pick up the charges But but you know, they'll pick up the charges in some instances like domestic violence or something, right? You can get to that point where the where the cops show up a couple of times and then the wife drops the charges Or the girlfriend says it. No, I don't want to press charges Well after once or twice then the cop the state will just pick it up and say no, no, no Yeah, a candidate is different. You have like she they have to be like yes"
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"text": " no because that brings up all these videos and it brings up all of your past arrests like you've been in prison before for doing this haven't you you've been on probation before you've been this is just who you are you're you're an absolute menace yeah it's it's it's it's and it's like the three other guys it's like the three other dudes i'm i'm surprised that like that we have like i can"
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"text": " I want to predict is in the next like my I don't make more of the month the next like there's content for John Bravo for the next I don't know the year because you're gonna because the next video will be like okay so now I actually know the guy of the this piece of shit asshole who's like this he's gonna get probably every one of the guys are in the background of those guys we're gonna have probably videos that if this guy charges those guys as well too because again like"
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"text": " It's not just West that hit him. It's like there's a guy hit him that kicked him. There's a guy, the other guy that took his, he's taken off his watch during, you know, while he's talking to West and then goes behind with a dumbbell, right? So it's like this guy, any lawyers, he'd be like, listen, bud, there's four guys, we're part of them just pressing charges. And then when they, they're all guilty, then we're suing them. And that's 500,000, that's a half a million minimum."
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"text": " that you're going to get from this entire thing. And then paying your lawyer fees and stuff. It's going to be easy for this to be. I don't know. Like I said, hopefully he has the biggest horseshoe up his ass or some kind of weird ass bullshit racial shit comes up and all of a sudden Wes Watson's off the hook. But if that doesn't happen, he's screwed."
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"text": " I'm trying to look and see like all I see so far is Instagram and YouTube videos. Like there's no, I don't see any news reports that say he's been charged. I know he's been, I know that there's a thing that talks about an arrest report. Um, did you see that one? There's one guy who reads like that. I have the, I, my, my last one, my last video, um, I got the, uh, John sent me the, um, the transcript, the report."
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"text": " the police report and he does say he's pressing charges. I wonder why there's been no news. I don't know if it's that big. TMZ covered Jeff Nippard and what he called, which is weird."
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"text": " So I don't know, maybe still going through. You used to be able to just kind of go online and really pick up, you know, look for the police report transcripts and get it when it's released to the public, but I don't know. Yeah, so I guess, what is it, the gym owner? Yeah. Basically said, or kicked him out? Did he?"
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"text": " Somebody I had seen that somewhere where the gym owner was basically like, yeah, you're not coming back here Like he's because the the kids probably gonna sue the gym owner Yeah, you know you're gonna throw that in there to try and get a hold of his Yeah, stay smooth suing everybody you're suing you're suing Right you're suing the gym owners suing West and all the buddies there You're suing the fucking belt company forever fucking for like why are you making belts? They're so easily detachable whippable, you know, like I don't know like you can I"
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"text": " I watched your interview, your breakdown of the Wes Watson thing. I've been a huge fan of his for years."
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"text": " Um, so I don't know if you've ever watched, I'm sure you haven't watched any of the videos, but my buddy and I, we've like, you know, just mock him, you know, like cause, cause both of us had been like, I was in a media, a federal prison that was a medium, a security prison, and I was only there for about three years. The rest of my time I did about nine years in a, in a low security prison, you know, not that things don't happen there, but it's not obviously"
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"text": " Yeah. Probably more fights in the low, there's just less violent. Um, and, and then my buddy has actually been, and I want to say he's been in two pens. Uh, and you know, and, and I, I look, I've, I've interviewed enough guys and known enough guys and met enough guys that have been in pens and all of them are just like, yeah, you, you know, you just don't behave like this in a penitentiary. I mean, nobody's going to allow you to behave like this."
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"text": " and I think we had talked about this as far as Wes is concerned that you know when he first came out he was he was actually a little more mellow you know and he seemed like he had some some good advice he's just gone it's I guess money or freedom or something has just you know it's just amplified all of the the negative stuff that he has to say and and"
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"text": " And then it's getting worse and worse and you know, you know how it is once you start. Well, as far as crime is concerned, once you start getting away with things, you become emboldened by it and you keep that envelope. And before you know it, you know, you get slapped back down or arrested or and I think everything I think for certain personality types, everything is like that. You keep pushing that envelope. Yeah. And apparently it didn't go well for."
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"text": " It's really been kind of falling apart for a while now. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, like I said, I watched Jon's video today and I kind of did like my wrap up on what I think might be the wrap up. I'm sure it will be more on like what, you know, the repercussions of what's going on. But for me, I was just like, you know, I made the point that it's like, you know, time reveals everything."
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"text": " I know people in my life that are what Wes tries to act like. It's not even an unwritten rule. You don't care yourself like that. People who are dangerous, they don't tell you they are. You just know they are."
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"text": " Right. Whispers, rumors or something. That person alone will not be like, I'm dangerous or I'm successful or whatever. And I think guys like him are like, you know, they went to prison and like, you know, like prison sucks no matter what, like I don't care how long you go for, it sucks, period. Like it's, you know, that alone is like, you know, like you don't have to big up being in prison. You know what I mean? Like everyone knows"
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"text": " The worst way to punish people is by taking them away from people. You don't have to really lay down how hard prison was, whatever. But for guys like Kim, and I know guys like Kim, who've done minimal time, whatever, and then they create this persona when they leave, and it's not who they actually are."
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"text": " While they continue to ride this persona, now they have to dive deep and now they have to become it. Now everything about them has to be it and they build on more and more. Then eventually, like situation like with Wes, same thing. It's like their true colors start to actually show. You know what I mean? The biggest mistake people make when it comes to trolls is actually acknowledging them."
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"text": " because trolls have a specific job online, right? Is without trolls, like, just be serious, even having trolls, you know, social media will be kind of boring. Be honest. Like, it's not like, it's not like I want them around, but like they have their place. Their goal, their goal is to, is to get you emotionally, not only emotionally engaged, but to actually engage and to actually acknowledge them. And when you, and when you do, it's like game over."
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"text": " If you acknowledge them and publicly call them out like he has a face to whatever troll it is, it's just like they're products. They just went over to his channel and his products and just did what trolls do and that's what they do."
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"text": " And he did it the wrong way. And then you can see that like, you know, being an alpha male, you know what I mean? Like you can see it got to him, right? Like he literally like you can't, if you're like, oh, fuck the trolls, man, don't fuck with trolls. You don't, you don't, if you don't care about trolls, don't talk about trolls. Like you don't, you don't let everybody know that, you know, he made, I don't know how many videos he's like a bunch of weirdos. And like, I think every video made at least 10 in a row, we're talking, we're, we're,"
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"text": " addressing the trolls and you can see that they were literally getting under him like in under his skin. He's, you know, make comments about it to the point where he calls him out and then like, you know, he's a victim of his own demise, right? I think John, I said this in the video, John Bravo did a good job, you know, getting this stuff, but like, if it wasn't for the trolls, John Bravo would have no content because the trolls exposed who Wes Watson really was because he's an alpha dude. He's an alpha male."
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"text": " You know, Tom Brady doesn't go into his DMs and like, fuck you for telling me I deflated the footballs. Like guys who are somebody don't really care. And guy like Wes just kind of got exposed, like, fairly easily. It was like an unraveling of a month's work."
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"text": " First of all, when he first came out, like I did several, a buddy of mine named Zach, we did several videos where we were like, we just watched them. And you know, they were just reaction videos and just, you know, kind of laughed and joked about it, his behavior. And, and boy, let me tell you, his fans like came out of nowhere. You know, they just, you know, you simply"
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"text": " you this you that is like okay well you know first of all none of that's true you know i'm saying you see i'm saying it's like you know they they say like you said they're trolls they're saying anything yeah get a reaction and it's funny because when you say like that they have you know they have their place my editor his name is colby"
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"text": " And then he'll release that video knowing that it sounds like I'm telling someone else's story as my own. And those videos do better than any video where I'm just telling my story because the content, or I'm sorry, the comment section goes nuts. This guy's lying. That's the theme to the movie. He never did that. Everything this guy says is a lie. Other guys"
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"text": " 50,000 views. And so he has no problem doing it. So the the interaction with some of these trolls, you know, I could see interacting with them, or feeding into that, them to get the interaction to push the videos. But I don't think that's what he's doing. No, I think it's getting under his skin. Yeah. And his whole story since he came out about five years ago,"
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"text": " has slowly I mean initially the story it's a good story it's an interesting story this is what happened and really a big part of West's story was that he went to prison and he kind of got enlightened and he changed his life and he was going to live his life in a different way and obviously that spun off into something you know disturbing let's say almost sinister where I can't tell you how many guys have contacted me and told me"
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"text": " Bro, I, you know, I paid to talk to Wes Watson. And you know, I said I'm whatever it was, I forget the amount. It was like 500 bucks. And, you know, I was supposed to talk to him for whatever 30 minutes and the guy got on the phone with me, he called me a bitch four times and hung up on me twice and then stopped answering the phone and took my money. Yeah. And these guys are like, they're like, this guy, you know, this is a complete scam. And then so that's been happening for a while."
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"text": " And then he's becoming more and more animated, more and more derogatory towards other people. And then his story a couple years ago started falling apart, where it was"
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"text": " You know you weren't you didn't do ten years you did like seven you didn't do it in this facility you were in this facility you weren't a shock caller you know you didn't behave like this in prison the guys that were locked up with you said you were extremely quiet you know there were all of these things that came out that wasn't being honest about and here's the part that bothers me about that."
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"text": " Because look, I've been like, I was locked up 13 years and I was I've been locked up with pathological liars. I'm not saying it's pathological liar. I'm just saying that that he's main if he's embellished his story. So, you know, and listen, everybody does it. I'll give you an example. For a while, I you know, so I didn't do 13 years, I did like 12 years and eight months. What am I going to do? I'm gonna say 12 years and eight months every single time somebody says I think."
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"text": " You're not, you're not lying about your crime. You may be lying about the money you were making because other people, of course, have come out and said that he was not making a lot of money. He was kind of a drug addict and you know, whatever that he was living. He was sleeping on people's couches. Of course, he says, Oh, I was a millionaire before I went to prison like, come on, stop. That's not true."
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"text": " yeah and you know you're spending all this money it's funny because some of his initial things that he said when he got out of prison the things he does now let me put it this way like he's never owned a business so people take will take them they'll pay him for like business coaching yeah what you've never owned a successful business that's like and listen i've owned"
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"text": " a construction company, a development company, a real estate company, and a mortgage company. And if you came to me and said, Matt, man, you've owned all these companies, you were super successful, I'd like to pay you. I'm not going to take your money because all the businesses that I own"
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"text": " fraud was my go-to, they were always going to be successful and I don't feel confident enough to give you advice and have you invest your money in me and the things that I say because I can't say I've run a successful business, you know, unless you consider YouTube, but that's since I got out, you know, without it being, you know, based on some type of fraud. And so that's not right. So for this guy to get out and be giving people business advice, like what are you doing? You're a drug dealer. Yeah."
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"text": " you know it and apparently not a great drug dealer not even a great criminal and he's just gone he's just the more money you gave you he gets you know you're renting a house you're renting a vehicle you're spending tons of fucking money it's for the stuff that like it is it is an ego out of control yeah and you know luckily you know or unluckily you know we have youtube and we're getting to watch it"
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"text": " I'm telling you right now, listen, years ago, you can watch my videos. We were back then talking about how it was going to unravel. There was no way he could continue to behave like this and not have it catch up to you. Yeah. Like I said, time reels everything, right? And it kind of just goes back to the point I made before. I've been guilty of it, right? When I first... I didn't come from money whatsoever. I was broke. I was poor."
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"text": " When I started to make money, I made fuller spends. I'm going to get a bag. I'm going to get a bag. When you have a bag, you have money. When you're wealthy, that's what you have to do. Quickly realizing that's not actually happening. I have friends who are coaches who have money. They unlimited the amount of money and you see how they act. They don't act like that."
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"text": " So when I see a lot of what Wes does, I see a lot of what I've done before. Now I never take to the limit to be like, hey man, I'm making all this money. I buy a bag to be like, hey, I can afford this bag now and I got a cool Gucci bag. To me it was like, I made this much money, it's an award for me, but it still made me feel a certain way. I was talking to my client about this, actually my appointment center, because he likes Wes Watson."
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"text": " I'll tell them the same thing about the bag I had. Then I'm like, my client, when I go to trainer, she has a wicker basket next to her island in her kitchen. Nice, beautiful house. In that wicker basket is bags, like just bags, a good maybe $20,000, $30,000 of designer bags."
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"text": " that are, you know, just chuck there when she goes picks one up, throws it over and goes out. You know what I mean? And that's when I was, when I looked at that, I remember one day it was like, here you are with your bag, thinking you're this and that. And this is like pocket change to somebody else. It's like people who have money don't try to show you they have money. So when a guy like Wes comes out of jail, like, you know,"
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"text": " He has like, cause again, like it's like seven years, like I said, any jail time sucks. Like I don't know. It will sing for five, for five months. Like, you know, like, you know, jail, jail sucks. Yeah. I need jail sucks. Seven years is, is, is, I don't, one year's respectful enough to be like, I don't care. But seven years in jail, I'm pretty sure seven years in jail, probability you're going through some natural shit. It's going to happen."
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"text": " No one's going to get out, get in jail unscathed in seven years. Some shit's going to happen to you. So you'll most likely end up having some legitimate stories in jail, whether you experienced it yourself or you've seen it close up and personal. All of what he experienced in jail for seven years is, again, agree with you, didn't have to be touched. That alone could have been like, ride that story and stay there. But because he"
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"text": " probably wasn't from money, probably didn't have money before or, you know, had kind of like wealth in his life, gets out, sells his story, his story makes money. He's now getting money, has no clue what he actually has to do with it or how to, you know, how to really care himself like a person who actually has money. And then what happens, most people that happens is like, you know, I know people self who've got, who've got money,"
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"text": " You know, when the YouTube game and all of a sudden they got a ton of money and you see them change, you watch them change. And you watch people change that have never really had that kind of money before because people who have money, they know how to act. And they're not influenced and their life isn't changing all of a sudden. So a guy like Wes is going to come out with a story that he could have easily wrote and never had any shit happen in the first place. I'll respect the guy. I don't give a fuck. You're in jail for a year, seven years. Doesn't matter. I respect that."
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"text": " But to fabricate it to the lengths that he did to now, he has to play this role. He doesn't really know how to handle money and he's got to tell everybody he has money. He's a perfect example of the opposite of what he says. If someone says they have a lot of money, they probably don't have a lot of money. They say they're super strong, they're probably not that strong. They say they're dangerous, they're probably not dangerous. They say they're fucking alpha, they're probably not alpha. And then you watch it happen."
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"text": " It's sad, but it's a very common thing that people get on. It's YouTube in general, to be honest, because YouTube is the platform where you can recreate who you are. You can come on here, and if not a lot of people really know you, or if you're that dumb to think people aren't going to do a background checks on you, if you're that arrogant, you'll come on here and you'll try and act like something that you aren't. And right now, there's a lot of guys getting exposed. There are a lot of people who are now"
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"text": " West isn't immune to it, you know what I mean? And now here he is, where it's like, he's not going to recover from this. There's no fucking way he's going to recover from this. Unless he comes out and like, I'll tell you this, there's always one out on YouTube. There's always one out. And it's the ultimate apology."
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"text": " right? Everyone has one one ultimate goal and he won't do it. He won't do it, right? But but but that shows that shows somebody's like humility, right? If you effed up now, the liver king tried that shit and didn't work because like we all knew he was like lying. He's like a piece of shit. But Wes is like Wes came on was like, yo, man, like,"
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"text": " I mean, I fucking blew it. Like, I can't be like, you know, you know, like, I didn't have the money much money before I thought this would, you know, I just, you know, I was, you know, all these, all the things that we know, and came on, but this is why I did this. And, and, you know, I thought it would create more of a persona, I thought I would do this, people give him a pass, because he still went to jail for seven years, still, he still did these things, or there's still that underlying truth about him."
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"text": " How long can you act on that for? Because eventually you have to live a lie. Right. And that's exhausting. Right. I was going to say, like, I was living a lie before prison. Living a lie. And listen, I'll tell you something. This is what a buddy of mine told me one time."
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"text": " I always like to say that I think he stole it from Einstein, but he says he didn't. He gets upset when I say so. And it was that you cannot go to prison. This is really one of the things that really kind of made it click for me. And he said you cannot go to prison and continue to behave in the manner that got you to prison and then leave prison and not expect to come back."
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"text": " Listen, I'm going to, I'm going to trade my car in. Yeah. And she goes, well, I said, well, I was just thinking about this. Like I'm, I don't go anywhere and I'm paying $700 a month and I could Uber 10 or 20 times and not come up with 700 bucks because everything's right around here. And I went, if I really have to go somewhere, then I'll just take your car. And she goes, yeah, if you want to do that, that's fine. I haven't had a car in over a year. Yeah. What's Watson cannot imagine."
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"text": " Yeah. Yeah. You have to have somebody to, you know, to yank your brains. You do, you do, but you're also like, it's like, I I've, I've, I'm still going on a journey of like self-awareness and emotional intelligence or something like I've been, that has been my 100% my main priority for the over a decade. And I can tell you that even for you saying this, it's, it's not just like you need someone that's in your corner."
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"text": " the fact that you want to do it the first place, right? Like it's like, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like how much you, how many people could be near. You might have the, the, you might have all the right people in this corner. I met some people that know Wes Watson that I talked to that, you know, swear that Wes is this and that and the other. And I'm like, you seem like a good cat. Right. And you know, maybe he has a lot of people like that in his corner, but he just, you know, it's up to that person. You have a level of self-awareness."
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"text": " And it's like material things, material wealth is very hard for people to really separate from value and the self-worth. And when you're someone like, you like myself, because I have to be very aware of that, I have a gold chain on, I have a gold watch, this is on. People are like, you wear gold. The only reason why I have gold is because for the longest time I couldn't wear jewelry because number one, I couldn't afford jewelry."
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"text": " But I had to get, it had to be like, it had to be stainless steel or something because I'd break out. So I have like these like rings around my neck that were like just itchy and stuff. And gold for me actually doesn't break out at all. Even some silver as well. I was like, I've always wanted to wear gold, but couldn't wear gold. I got this from my friend anyway, either way. It looks good. But for me, when it comes to like my self-worth and value, it's a journey that is consistent of self-awareness to know that you have to be able to separate yourself from"
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"text": " you know, an event catastrophic like this for Wes, or just like, you know, one of those days you're like, wait a minute, this is fucking stupid. What am I doing? And you just kind of get rid of it and kind of dumb your things down and you kind of get, you know, get back to ground zero and live. But yeah, but it has to be like a moment of self-awareness that you have to decide yourself. So like you're, you are, you know, you're not, you're not the normal person like at all. You know what I mean? So yeah."
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"text": " That's the first time I saw him. I saw him before. I'm sorry. I saw him a couple of times before, but the first time I saw him was on that panel. And he started yelling at that dude about having bitch tits and this and that. But I'm also so anti-red pill. That whole group of people. And he's one of the"
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"text": " That's successful for that. That is the recipe for a successful life. Treat people how you want to be treated. Like this is the same stuff that your father told you. Yeah. Yeah. This is, you know, but the other stuff that standing on stage, calling this guy, you know, having bitch tits and fat and he's disgusting. You're not rich. If, if you don't make, this is something that I'm great. Oh gosh. What's his name? Um, Graham, not Graham. Uh,"
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"text": " Did I just pay five grand for you to call me a loser? And then he has this thing where he says, if you're not making four hundred thousand plus a year, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're a loser. So you just called the guy that stocks the the the shelves at the grocery store a loser. You just called your butcher a loser. You just called fast food workers. They're all losers. The guy that sells you your car is a loser. The mechanic that keeps us the people that keep this country running."
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"text": " and and they're married and they get to have dinner with their family every night and that's that's what they wanted out of life so your values are different than their values right right you're saying they have to have your values or they're a loser like come on yeah nice i saw it's yeah we're on the same you're how you're how you're about my how old are you you're my age no way bro i'm way older than you i'm 100 i'm 55 years old i mean you look pretty young so i just chill it man you look look good"
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"text": " Yeah, I personally don't think like, I don't know enough about the West Watson thing isn't enough. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not enough. It's not like engrossing because it's been done. And then it's hard because you can't show the video. And it's a it's a it's a timing thing. If you get when he gets charged and suddenly there's a bunch of articles. That's a whole nother way. Well, yeah, like so for me, I piggyback as soon as I as soon as you know, um,"
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"text": " When you post it and then like how how you deliver what you're saying, right? Because again, like you can have somebody watch it and if they're like fuck this video sucks like, you know, 30 seconds there goes your views, right? So it's yeah, it's it's uh, I think I think you I think you get a lot out of the video to be honest, like it's it's a good topic. It's um, there's a lot you can learn from the situation on a lot of fronts like we've covered a lot and it's like like I said, like when it comes to YouTube,"
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"text": " That's like a year's worth of content coming out. So what is the name of your channel? Johnny Shreve. Okay. Yeah. It's like Johnny Shreve Fitness, but it's just Johnny Shreve. It's the easier cost brand. Everything's Johnny Shreve. Right. JohnnyShreve.com. JohnnyShreveFitness.com. Johnny Shreve. Same thing. Makes it easy. Do you do TikTok? You know what? I know I do and I don't. I hate TikTok. I just,"
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