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I had a buddy of mine who was trying to convince me that I should be rooting for Trump. He's like, Trump's one of us. That's what he kept telling me. Trump's one of us. I'm like, ugh. This was the first time? This was the first time. That's what he was telling me. He's a bad guy. He's one of those guys that goes against the system.
And he goes, you're one of those guys that go against the system. He kept trying to like, he would philosophize some, philosophy it right. And I couldn't argue with the logic of it, but I'm just like, I'm still opposed. I don't know. I go, yes, I'm probably going against my own values. If he'd run as a Democrat, you would have been all for him. Probably. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. My problem is I kind of herald the position of presidency, and I just think it should be reserved.
For someone of good character. And I just don't think Trump has good character. Now, I'm not going to say I'm opposed to everything he's done. I'm it like what what we were talking about earlier about the fact that he knows that the justice system is unfair, right? You know, I'm saying like someone with that perspective at the top, I think would be a good thing. But I don't know, I just I just feel like the president should have good character, good moral character. Like Biden.
Biden has a good moral character. What is wrong with Biden's character? What are we talking about? The millions of dollars that was laundered through his sons. He's selling paintings for hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's his son.
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What about them? Which one which one's going which one's in prison right now or should be in prison right now because his dad's gonna or same thing. Let me give you this example. Biden pardoned his son. Okay, clearly broke the law.
Right? He filled out the paperwork, said he wasn't under the influence of drugs, got a weapon, absolutely smoking rock, the whole thing on camera, everything. Okay, I'm not going to pardon him, not going to pardon him, not going to pardon him. What does he do? He pardons him. Now, wait a second. And that's fine. You have the right as a president to pardon whoever you want. That's how you feel as your son. I get it. Absolutely. What about the other 16,000 people that are in prison right now for the same charge? They're not his son.
So that's your justification. It's just a son. He's got that. That is his privilege. I would say it but but I mean, I would say, okay, Matt has more than enough money to cover next month's rent, right? So there's a guy who needs 500 bucks. Matt could give him the 500 bucks, but it's Matt's money.
You could, you could go to Wawa and there's seven homeless guys and you could take care of all of them and feed them. Why not? But right, but I've got my money, right? So on that same thing, it's his right as a president, one of the perks of this job, great bathroom, and I get to pardon anybody I want to. Why not pardon my son? Morally and ethically,
You think it's perfectly okay to this entire time have said you are not going to pardon him and then decide to pardon him. Wait, so are you saying that wouldn't be the first time a politician has bold faced in life? Did you know that Dell had a breach that exposed over 3.9 million customer records, including sensitive personal information?
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Just like Trump, numerous occasions you can find videos where he's lied, right? He's contradicted. Right. So Biden, same thing.
When Biden was running for Congress, did you ever see the thing where he was talking about how he graduated the head of his class, he graduated, he plagiarized the speech, like everything, and they just got him one after another after another of him doing the same thing. So I think that if you had to say character,
I certainly wouldn't say that Biden's character is any better than Trump's character. I would I would I mean you would but but I think that the record and the facts would show differently. I okay. So let me ask you this. Can you think of any flaws in Trump's character? I can I don't bro. I don't have enough paper and pen to write down that the all the flaws that are in his character. Do you have I don't think that there are enough paper and pen to write down
All the flaws in every president that has ever been appointed or I'm sorry, everyone election. All of them are flawed. You don't get to the top without having some flaws, but but not flagrant flaws. A flagrant flaw would be well be cheating on your wife when she's pregnant.
That would be a flagrant flaw. And even if you were to come to that flaw, then at least come and admit that you've cheated on your wife while you were pregnant. But once again, by your same argument, right? Of you just saying, no, there's no proof of this. There's no proof, right? What's the proof that he cheated on his wife? He said he didn't. Right, he didn't. So because he said he didn't, he didn't.
So you don't think he slept with the porn star. I'm saying we've got a porn star of upstanding moral values who says I'm going to say because I met you one time. I'm going to say you slept with me or you're going to pay me money. So in the middle of an election, he says fuck it pair off to get her to shut up because this is going to not this is going to hurt me any man true or not true is going to make that payment.
Well, I see to me, it's funny, but you're saying no, no, she said it. So it's true. No, I'm saying that would you ever pay a porn star to say they didn't sleep with you? I'm going to pay you to say, well, to say that you didn't sleep with me.
Like why would I pay you to say you didn't sleep with me because no no no no no money that makes sense unless unless what like like I wouldn't pay someone to say they didn't sleep with me unless I slept with them I wouldn't pay you to have someone yeah I don't think you understand that I would say I would say I would say who cares if you slept with
I agree with that. I would say that the job of president is, but you're saying good moral character. Right. But like the job of president is the CEO and manager of the country. Right. Trump, to me, is, if anything else, a good businessman. If anything else. I argue that, but go ahead. How?
You know, he's had bankruptcies or whatever that case, which is all a part of business, right? That's all a part of the influx of profit margin and things go up, things go down. Elon Musk never had a bankruptcy. Well, he's on a different brand. Elon Musk has threatened to have bankruptcy several times. Also, by the way, so Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos never had bankruptcy.
No, no, no. He's had the same exact bankruptcies that Trump has had. You know what he did? Trump personally has never had a bankruptcy.
He could say I've never had a bankruptcy. He said it many, many times and the news has actually come out and said, yes, personally, he's never had one. Do you know how many companies Jeff Bezos has founded and started that have gone under? Yes. I watched a video of him. I believe he forced those companies to go under. I think he purchased them. I understand what you believe. What I'm saying is I can, if you want, we can break out the video where he says he'll start and he's funny too when he does it. He'll name the type of the company that
That he that Amazon put, you know, half a billion dollars into and as soon as he says that you're like, hey, what happened with that? I do remember that that was an app and if this and that and guess what they say like we dumped all this money into it. We did it for three years it tanked and then he started he'll name off like six of them. We did this, you know, 400,000 into this company went under 300,000 in this one went under half a billion in this one went under all of those were bankrupt companies started by Jeff Bezos.
But if he ran for president, the other side would say, you've claimed bankruptcy six times. No, I'm a businessman that has started several businesses that fail. That's what you do. Every businessman has companies that they've started that fail. Right. All right. I'll accept that. Let just I'll accept that. I'll accept that. So I think I think that what I think Trump, you know,
Which of my you know, you can decide good or bad. Here's the thing and it is true is that he's not even president yet. Everything bad people are already blaming on him.
But he's also, and he's not even president. I saw a video interview the other day where he's sitting there and they're like, well, what about this? He's like, okay, well, I'm not president. What about the economy? This you're going to you said you're going to do this. He's like, I'm not president. I mean, she's the woman's blaming him. It's somebody some chick from like CNN. And he's like, I'm not president. Yes, but you will be he's like, Yeah, but I'm not. But here's the thing.
Already, like all the tariffs and things that he's threatening to do, already these countries are ready to come to the table to renegotiate, and he's not president. The threat of him being president is enough. The threat of him saying, I will shut down the border. I will do this. I will do that. I like all that. I don't want illegal immigrants walking across the border. It's coming. I think, you know, I think you come, well, first of all, I think the economy is collapsing no matter what. I don't care who's in charge.
We're in the middle of a bubble. The real estate is, do you understand it's more expensive to own? It is 30% more expensive right now to buy a house than it is to pay your rent. So the fact is, is that the bubble is huge right now. It's already slowly collapsing. I'm waiting for it to really bust. I think what it is, is it's a building that's coming down and it doesn't matter if Trump's president or Kamala is president.
It's a matter of how do we have this building come down in the best possible way? Because it's coming down. Do we have a controlled explosion as it comes down so it doesn't take out all the other buildings? Or do we let that fucker just fall over however it's going to fall? I think Trump brings it down in the best possible light so it doesn't take out all the other buildings. I think Carmelite would have taken out four other buildings on the way down. I'm glad you feel that way. I mean, I'm gonna give you my opinion on Trump. I think
Because I'm not really either or those I wouldn't have wanted her to be in. This is how I feel about Trump. Trump is a breath of fresh air to me in that he's very opinionated. He's called, you know, a fat bitch, a fat bitch, like sometimes like you have to respond that way.
It's refreshing to me, like his whole Rosie O'Donnell beef back in the day. I can look at Donald Trump and say, I've seen him call a fat bitch a fat bitch, or get angry at a bitch and call her out her name or something. He seems human to me. He's very, what is that, conspiracy orientated. So that means he's looking at things with a skeptical eye.
I like that. Maybe he's a little too left-wing with it, but I like that he looks at everything with that skepticism, because I also look at things with skepticism. Right. Here's the thing with me is that his first presidency, he's not polished.
He's absolutely not polished. He's not a politician. He said he says things that come to his mind, right? Probably some of them are stupid, without a doubt, not a lot of thought put it put into them. And I can think of numerous, okay, numerous things that I thought, like, when was his name, McCain had been shot down and was like, they were like, well, McCain's a war hero. And he's like, well, he got shot down. And he was in what he gets shot in the leg. No, he said he was he was
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Available wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, he's also a POW for several years. And then he, you know, he was like, yeah, well, I like war heroes that weren't captured. Like he made some crack, offhand a crack, like, okay, I get it. You, you, you said it, and probably if you rethought it, you thought, well, that's probably shouldn't have said that. That was a stupid thing to say. But me being someone who says stupid things all the time,
I realize that sometimes you say it you have a knee-jerk reaction and you say something stupid the problem with him is of course another character flaw is that he can't back off of it he can't because he's a narcissist he can't then say you know what look that was a dumb thing to say he doesn't want to admit he's wrong narcissists don't want to admit they're wrong the problem is most narcissists are also see end up being CEOs of country of companies they're either at go to prison narcissists are great leaders right but if you have a personal relationship with one
It's fucking horrible, right? Like it's a horrible, it's a horrible person to be married to or have children, the children have typically don't have great relationships with them. It's hard to have a personal relationship with them because it becomes all about them. But as far as being a leader, they're great leaders, you have to be narcissistic. Some of the best leaders. Here's the thing though. Have you seen recently and I watched this was something Joe Rogan had mentioned that if you watch his more recent interviews,
he's much more polished now. Like now he's not making those same mistakes saying those same harsh things. He's not being quite as much of a of kind of a jerk. He's not coming off quite as jerky, because I think he learned in the first, what the first his first term, and throughout the second term, how, how they're twisting every single thing he says, and he can't say something, his answers are much, much more polished. Now, not perfect. He's not Obama.
Okay, and I love Obama's not perfect. No, no, I'm not saying it's perfect. Yes, he was color. I don't agree with with his politics and some of the things that he did. But if you want to have a politician, he Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, great politics, you know, really good. They their answers were polished. They they came off very authentic. They didn't come off crass. They didn't say stupid things. My favorite is
When Obama went up to the podium and announced that Osama bin Laden had been executed, I think he also went up to the podium and he did another one where some al-Qaeda
head of Al Qaeda was shot and killed where Trump did that. No, no, but they compare it. Obama gets up and says, you know, Hussaini, Hussada, Hussada was, you know, was executed today through a drone strike. You know, the SEAL Team Six came and he explains it very eloquently, like a general would explain it.
who's done it a thousand times. It was flawless the way he does it. You've seen this. I've sent this to you. And then Trump gets up, then they compare when Trump goes in the same podium, walks up and announces that some Al Qaeda person had been killed. He's like, we did it. No, no, no. He goes, do Baca cake, cake, Kada Obama.
Was he they we killed him. We got we executed him like a dog. They come in the way they came in the windows. You think they come in the door. They didn't they came in the window. They killed him. It was horrible. He died like a dog in the street. I mean you're going horrible. He can't pronounce the name.
He can't explain what happened. He says, it sounds horrific. Obama makes it sounds like surgical precision. No one other than him was killed. It was perfect execution. That type of stuff to me, when Trump trips over that time, I like that. That's what I'm saying. I'm okay with that. I like him being, it's genuine. It gives more of a genuine, even when he has those mess ups and he seems to me like everything, he's shooting more from the hip.
And again, because he's so skeptical about stuff, he doesn't believe poop stinks. Like I can kind of get behind it that a little bit and I disagree with my dad. My dad just is a staunch non Trump person. So we kind of got this riff. I don't think I'm a Trump person. I just would rather him over quite a few other politicians one because he's not a politician. And there's that skepticism.
And he sold a crash like that, like he will just give it to you. It might not be the right thing to say, right? He's saying it. Because it's how he feels. What about the the the second one? What about the Trudeau? The thing with Trudeau and Canada?
What about the border? Yeah, no, about the tariffs, where Trudeau said, look, you've got, you know, if you do this, it'll devastate our economy is like, well, wait a minute, if Canada can't survive as a country, without ripping off the American public for $120 billion a year, he said, then we'll just make you a state is and you could be the governor.
And that has so he said that and everybody laughed and joked around and he goes, and he said, and then Trudeau goes, well, I think we'd be more of a left leaning state. So I don't know that would work out for you. No, no, it's okay. We'll split it in half. He said, well, because you know, you break it up into the different districts, you know, this is and we'll make it make it reasonable so that it works for us. And Trudeau's and everybody. Have you seen the firestorm? That's listen,
They got Mr. Happy or Mr. Smiley or whatever his name is from Shark Tank. I forget his name, but he's on CNN. He's on all these shows saying because he's Canadian. He's like, listen, 50% of Canadians are for this. I mean, and Trump's now coming out saying, listen, if they become a state, that your taxes were dropped down by 60%, you would have no fucking Canadians or
I like the idea of free healthcare, bro. I like it. And you have free public transportation. I have like three friends up there that I want to go see when I get on the bus.
Yes, public transportation is there. There's no cost for public transport. They pay about 70% of their check goes to taxes. Yeah, it's outrageous. But but all all public it's free. Yeah, and so you get so so.
Thousand bucks you're getting paid this week. You get 300. Yeah, and you understand that there are parents There are families that are multiple families living in one dwelling because they can't afford there and there's a horrible There's a bunch of horrible things that are going on too. Well, it's horrible There's no welfare. So like if like public Public workers and stuff though, that's welfare. So you like I can't find a job and I can't support myself I want no problem. You're gonna live here and you're gonna work here and
Or they just don't you don't work. I knew a guy, the guy that started our tick tock in Canada, we made a mistake. We started to tick tock. He was amazing and ran it up to like 150,000 followers. But he started in Canada. Well, that you can't get paid from a Canadian if you open it in Canada, they don't allow you to get paid. So anyway, so but he did it for about four or five months because he wasn't working. So he gets
Well, fair to pay his rent, or whatever, during that time, and then when he was, he was a real estate agent. So then he suddenly the market picked up and people started selling homes and renting and stuffy. So he went back to work and he stopped getting paid. Like, they have a system where you think, oh, that's great. Well, it's not great. You're living off the most people are living off of
The system up there is a failed system. And what Trump is saying is, look, we remove the border, let free enterprise, you'll be taxed the same way Americans are, and then you have the protection of the United States. We can absorb your military, and then imagine how massive the United States would be at that point.
So it would be beneficial to everyone. But I think it probably came off, maybe a joke as a joke, but it's turned into something. And I think that a lot of the things that Trump says and wants to do, closing down the border, it kills me. These guys are coming across the border, they're giving them, these people have $10,000, $15,000 on their
On their the little debit cards. They're giving them. They're giving them free housing and you've got veterans that are living in the street that they're turning benefits down, but you're giving billions of dollars to immigrants that are coming across the border like you can come across. There's a legal way to come across. There's a legal way to come in here. So isn't that the people that's getting the benefits when they come across legally illegally if you walk across they're giving you a debit card and housing. I don't understand. So the ill so what are they giving the legal ones?
So, illegally, you get benefits.
right? But if you come across and let them know that you're coming across and you're entitled to come across, they're giving you nothing. They're talking about the wet foot, dry foot stuff. No, no, I'm talking about when if you go to the American Embassy and you say, hey, I want to immigrate to the United States. It's like a three-year waiting process where they review your application and why you should be allowed to come and what your reasoning is and that's all thing. And then you get to come to the United States
And then you get a green card you're allowed to work and then eventually after a couple of years you go to have to take a class and then you become a citizen it's a hard hard road to be a United States citizen or you can sneak across the border they'll stop you actually stop you they register you.
They give you a debit card or they tell you go talk to this guy, go fill out this paperwork. They give a debit card and they let him go and you can go wherever you want. You're registered. Even though these people like they have nothing like, oh, my name is, you know, Juan Pablo, whatever. And I don't really have a cell phone or anything. I'm just getting here. Okay, well, contact us. Let us know. But they're all undocumented. At this point, there's six or seven thousand. I'm sorry, six or seven million illegals that are in this country.
You're supposed to stay in contact with us. The truth is you're not going to stay in contact.
So they're all they're awaiting their eligibility to apply to be a citizen, but the truth is, you're just going to come here and we're going to just work and send money back to Mexico and spend money and do whatever you want. Set people on fire, rape people, break into houses, whatever we want to do, maybe pick oranges, whatever. And then and then if I eventually when
It's my turn to apply and I don't apply and they can't find me and they put a warrant out for my arrest. Well, then you still have to check, you still have to catch me, which is what I had expected the whole time. But maybe they stay in here for 10 or 15 years. And eventually someone like Trump comes along, hires a puts this guy, what's his name back in charge and they now they're going to scoop them all up and throw them back into Mexico. As soon as Trump was elected.
All of these caravans that were coming in from El Salvador and stuff, they stopped, they dispersed, they started going back because they realized they're going to close this fucking thing and we're not going to be able to get in. Well, who's getting the debit cards? The ones that are illegally coming in? The ones that disappear and it don't report? Yes. Well, that's a way to track them. The debit card would be a way to... 7 million. Has the government ever done anything efficiently other than when you get off the plane and
Oklahoma other than getting off the plane in Oklahoma. When you walk through that thing and they take the handcuffs off you and give you give you a bologna sandwich is stick you in that room. I've never other than the prison system.
I really have never seen them do anything really efficiently. You call that Oklahoma efficient. Well, when you got off the plane plane and they march us all down there and those guys took those handcuffs off. I never had handcuffs taken off so fast. Oh, yeah, they do do that. Those guys were amazing. It was like it was like they weren't even on like they just yanked them right off. Here's your sandwich. Stand over there. It was like they put us in this big ass fucking room and then waited for four hours. Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, I think like, you know, would I like it if Trump was more polished? Yeah, I would like it if he was more polished. I would like it if he didn't say a bunch of stupid things, you know, and make say,
you know, make mean tweets and say some horrible, I would like that. But that's not to me. That's not I'm not going to say some Twitter more than me. Yeah, but I'm not going to say you can't run the country. You know, I'm saying and the other thing is, you know, bothers me. This is what kills me. Oh, I should mention this. This is good. You're gonna love this. Of course not. So I have I have a a
I'm not gonna say girl. I shouldn't say girl, right? You can't say it's a woman. I have a woman. She's so little. She's so tiny. I can't even say woman. She's like five foot two. So I have a her age, wouldn't it? But go ahead. She's tiny. So her name is Brittany and Brittany helped me start my first website.
Britney always helps me come in. Britney's black, by the way. So Britney always comes over and she'll help me build a website or help me anything I can't figure out. She'll figure out like, Hey, I want to do this. I know we can do this. Oh, yeah, you can go on this site. We can do this. We do that. Whatever. And I pay her and and she helped me when when I wasn't able to there was nobody helping me. This is when I was going to the gym when I was in the halfway house. She helped me build a gym helped me put up my first book helped me all made a deal with her you get 10% of royalties that kind of stuff.
So she's always kind of been helping me. When Trump was elected, she told me she was terrified. And I went, why? And she goes, well, not so much for me, but for my brothers. I went, why? And she goes, well, because they're black men. And I went, what do you think is going to happen, Brittany? Brittany genuinely felt that the law enforcement
Was going to be rounding up black men and throwing them in in jail, and they were going to be brutalizing more so than they already do. They were going to be brutalizing them that they were good like she really thought that it was going to be like open season on on blacks. So which is what 1314% of the population. So half that is is male. So what 7% of the population we're going to be incarcerated.
Luckily white females wouldn't allow that to happen. The black population in the United States is around 13-14% of the whole population. Black men are probably about seven or eight, but luckily white females won't allow that to happen. I remember talking to her and she was so adamant and concerned about it. Now, of course, Trump became president.
That didn't happen. In fact, he signed some, he signed some laws into some, he signed some policies in and some laws in that actually let people go. I know lots of guys that got out a year early, two years early. I'm glad you attribute Trump to that, but go ahead. Oh, he signed it. That was Obama's thing. No, that was Pelosi and
What's his name from New Jersey? It was a bill that had been circulating for about 12 years. And guess what? We had Democratic presidents the whole time. Obama didn't sign it. They couldn't get it passed. Trump signed it. They couldn't get it passed.
But go ahead. I'm glad you attribute that to Trump. I'm not anybody who looks into it would so right. He signed it. So he signed it. It went in and lots of people got let out. He pardoned a lot of people, right? So the not nearly as many as Biden, of course, or Obama or Obama. No, pardon. Right. So anyway, so we so you moving forward.
Trump goes is president, the economy is booming. Everything's great. He says stupid things every once in a while, whatever. But in my opinion, he was a good president. He does make mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes. You can't like everybody's policy. So he does fine. He ends up getting you know, he ends up getting beat. Biden comes in because of COVID. Um, that you think he got beat because of COVID? Yeah.
Even he admits that. He said if the COVID thing hadn't happened. I don't think that I don't think I think Trump was just so brash. Yeah, I just wanted a change. I think that the media had has always been against him. Yep. And I also think that he made some mistakes. He said some stupid things. You know, he said some things like he made himself a target. He made it not that he wasn't a target anyway. People were just so ready for a change from him because there's just so much
But anyway, so he loses and the fact that the fact that he didn't admit that he lost bothers me. Okay, I mean whether you say and I think that there were issues. I think there were issues in the in the election. I think there were but either way in January 6 right was peaceful touring of the Capitol. Now you're going to tell me that there were like 10 fucking people killed in it during that whole thing. It was a peaceful touring of the Capitol.
But the point is is that I think he lost and he should have admitted he lost either way lost whether it was correct or not, whether the there were the correct amount were were whether there was the vote was padded or it was fraud or it was whatever you lost. So well, I think that was a losing doesn't fit well with narcissism. No, no. But so here's the thing. Four years go by.
And Brittany and I are talking. And she was saying, do you think, do you think it's good that, that Trump is, she was concerned, I don't think he had been elected yet. He was about to, I said, Oh, I think he's going to win. She was, what do you think? I said, I think he's going to win. I think he's going to win. She was, really? I said, yeah. She was, that makes me nervous. And I said, why? And she said,
Well, you know, it's just being, you know, being black and she goes on and on. She's like, so it worries me. She's on I'm really feel like I'm kind of middle of the road between the two parties. And even though I've never heard her say anything other than the standard rhetoric from the left, regardless, here's what she said.
she's concerned because it's so hard being black, and that she knows and I said, well, you know, I had mentioned I said, I want taxes to go down. I think we're taxed too much. I think that I like I wouldn't mind being taxed even more if we could get free health care or something like that. But everybody, of course, then in the comments, people are gonna scream, oh, free health care is horrible. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I understand. But I'm pretty healthy. So I'd like to go to the doctor for free. I'm not really worried about, you know, these catastrophic things, because if they happen, then whatever, I'm probably done anyway. Point is, is that
So, as we're talking, I mentioned taxes and she said, well, yeah, sure for you. And I was like, what do you mean? And she said, well, I mean, you're already tax less. And I went, what do you mean? She said, well, I go, what do you, what do you mean that everybody's tax the same? She said, no, she said, she's blacks are taxed higher. And I went, what? And she goes, yeah, we're taxed at a higher tax bracket. And I went,
Do you believe that? And she goes, Yeah. And I went, you think that if a white man makes 100,000, a black man makes 100,000, a white man pays in 25% of his, of his wages to taxes, you think that a black person is paid in more? And she said, Yeah, I can show you my mom's W2. I can show you my app, you can call my mom. I said, No, no, I'm not gonna call your mom, because your mom is obviously a person, one of the people that have told you this.
They have you believing this, just like you thought they were going to round up your brothers and throw them in prison. This is obviously something that's going around in your circle. Do you really believe that constitutionally it's acceptable that blacks are charged? Like, is there a black tax? It's like, no, but they obviously will. Well, I don't know, but as a black person, you're taxed at a higher bracket. I said, you've got to be, you don't really believe that. I said, I feel like you need to look into that. You really need to look at that. Blacks have a different perception of stuff.
That I think is kind of there I wanted to actually tax less because depending on your income, you know, they've got the the earned income credit and everything that's that started by Ronald Reagan. So she's probably a little bit that's all perception. So you think that if you make $100,000 and I make $100,000 both of us are w2 we both have the same we pay the same tax we say people had the same I think I don't think it's differentiated by your color.
You know, I'm saying I just think it with everyone but that that's like one of those myths they go around tons of those myths that one's a little bit more on both sides. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that but it's the perception like blacks are perception of things and stuff and if you if you hopped in a car and drove, you know, whatever your tail lights out.
Your perception of your tail light out is a different thing than if a black guy I hop in the car my tail lights out, right? That's the only thing I've never been the only thing on my mind is getting that tail light. You heard what he said. He's never been never been searched. And listen, I drive like a fucking maniac. I pull I've been pulled over. I told you when I was on the run. I got so many tickets as a guy I'd stolen his identity. I got so many tickets. I had to go to traffic school as him because he was going to lose his license. And when I get pulled over like I'm never concerned I'm going to get
Like it doesn't even enter my mind. They're going to say, step out of the vehicle. We want to because you're Caucasian, but he doesn't believe the tiny girl that black people got to get. It's the perception. It's the perception. Do you think like a president or like a leader of the country can, can change the
What is it? The perception that like law enforcement has of blacks. Nope. Like do you think like, yeah, like a leader can shift that because it's been, I think because it's been, I don't want to say that it's been proven. Like if I'm, if I'm an officer, max just it, it absolutely, the perception of white people to the police as a perception of black people to police has absolutely been proven.
It was so I can go extreme in both ways. It was extreme enough that Roger Goodell, when George Floyd was killed, immediately got on there and said, you know what? Black people do get treated differently by the police because that's how extreme it is.
That he saw that, but it's just a natural reaction because when I was a teenager, I was out with a white girl, which is hard to believe. No, just kidding. And I was living in a very nice apartment called Lookout Point. And when I pulled in, the police pulled up and was, hey boy, do you live here? Blah, blah, blah. And the white girl I was with, her name was Kristen, was going bananas.
Right. So they've already got me in cuffs and she's screaming. Oh, y'all are doing that because he's black blah blah blah. So the cop looks at me and goes, looks like you understand what's going on. I'm going to give you a few minutes to kind of explain it to her. Wow. And like that was my cue to say, bitch, if you don't calm down, they're going to kill me. You're going to be you have every you have every right to be upset, but I'm going to be on your time.
My life is in your hands. I have a question. What do you think is going to be horrible about Trump being president? For me or for everyone? For you, well, I can say first, what always kills me is that prior to him, the election,
the couple weeks beforehand, I noticed all the rhetoric from the left was, this is an absolute threat to democracy. If he wins, we may never have another election. I fear that. Okay. So, um, after the election, you know what they were talking about? We need to regroup so that during the next election, we can win and learn what we did wrong. That's true. What next election?
you spent weeks beforehand saying there will be no more elections true so what makes you think that you should even try there's not going to be one like they were saying anything they had to say to get Kamala in there and in the moment it flipped like that's how stupid the American public are we could lie to you right up to the day of the election and the day after the election we can say okay next year what do you mean or next election
Yesterday, you said there will never be another election if he's elected. He was an absolute threat to democracy. So I'm wondering, so what do you think the horrible thing that he's going to do during the next four years is? I think the, like you said, I think the economy is going to crash. It's crashing anyway. You don't think it's going to crash anyway? I didn't. I didn't think it was going to crash anyway, but I think it absolutely is with the tariffs.
I for me, the benefit for Trump for me is he handled one of my biggest addictions. I no longer watch the news. I was absolutely addicted to the news. I spent every waking hour with the news on my TV. I no longer watch the news period because I'm just like, okay, I'm done.
Like I don't even want to hear because as you say there's so many facts and lies it's hard to differentiate and they did say that and now they're like we're gonna regroup in four years from now because I guess that's the hope that they're looking forward to and we hope that there's an election four years from now. I just hope TikTok isn't banned. That's the only thing that matters to me. Isn't it the 20th is supposed to go down?
I mean, here's what the problem is, is that is that Trump is a fan of TikTok. Yes. So there's a chance that that first of all, it doesn't have to go down at all. Okay. And TikTok's big everywhere. So we're not even know how to keep us from logging into it. Oh, yeah, they can. Yeah, they can shut it down that if you're coming from them, they'll they'll know what your
The IP addresses in the United States IP addresses, just like the guy that started in Canada that they immediately knew. Oh, no, that's a Canadian IP address. Yeah, we can't get paid on that account because it was created in Canada. Oh, wow. So what I think what here's the whole thing. It doesn't have to be shut down. The Chinese just have to release their
They're controlling or their interest in it like they can just sell it to an American company or any other company a European anybody like they can figure out how to keep it up and they claim that it's it's doing something with data like what what data their fear is that they're they're gathering data on Americans and using it to their advantage, you know, like like.
Is that true or not? I don't know, but I haven't seen the data. So I'm not in Congress. I haven't I haven't been a part of these committees. I don't know what it is. But it's enough that they got a bill to pass right or wrong, whatever. So one, we hope that it stays open. And I also hope that all the politics and all the interest in politics dies down over the next few months, because our last two months, it's crushed us. Yeah, it's big reason why we're doing this topic now. Because when the election happened,
All the stuff that was people were watching on YouTube were just election election. So like our interviews, they didn't perform as well because even me who's someone who like very rarely cares or anything about politics.
I was listening to political videos just to see what people had to say. Right. Even I was. I'm consuming politics like all the time, and it's like— That's all I consume. Right. And I've cut back, and that's all I consume. So if somebody was going 50-50 watching podcasts and then political podcasts and then maybe True Crime or something else, now it shifted to 100% politics. So our numbers, we had videos we put out that should have gotten 100,000, 200,000 views, and they got 50, 40.
Wow. I mean, it was the same thing with this week right now, like the holidays, like this last week was a pretty low week be just because most people just aren't on their phones. You know, they're traveling Christmas. It's like, you're not reaching the full potential. So that's kind of where like,
What is the buzz going to be around January 20th? Like are people going to be clicking on political videos? Like that's why this video right now, it'll be titled like Trump's America or something like that. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's wow. That's kind of impressive. I didn't even know that. Listen to Christmas day.
Our lowest day, maybe of the year. Yeah, the year. Yeah. All these people with their families disgusting at least put on one of our videos like last year we had Christmas or holidays in prison. We didn't have that episode. Yeah, we had a holiday. Yeah, I was thinking about that the other week. I'm like, how can we didn't do
You can't redo holiday in prison, I guess. What was that? We just talked about, yeah, we talked about what it's like to be in prison during Christmas. Christmas meals, Christmas, you didn't know Christmas bags, but you know, and I thought I thought state so I thought they gave you several Christmas. Did they give you Christmas bags? Yeah, really? I always feel like they wouldn't do that. Yeah. Yeah, we had what was normally in them. Listen to people. I talked to a jail said they were they were small. We got Salvation Army kind of this little Salvation Army package.
Socks. Oh, shampoos. I remember we got Shampoo conditioners socks. They got like decent like we got like some potato chips. Yeah, and some cookie. It wasn't it wasn't food. Oh, yeah, because you know, they were selling it
Yeah, you know the guys were selling yes, they buy the bag exotic. So this this year the Christmas bags. I'm not certain what happened because I talked to multiple people from multiple prisons, but unfortunately, I don't know what they did for sealing them, but they had them sealed with tape.
So everyone assumed that they went in the bag and took some stuff out. The rhetoric behind it had me laughing. Everyone was complaining. They didn't give a shit. This is the smallest bag I've ever seen. They said that every year. This is worse than last year. They said the bags actually fit inside the slot. They could slide it to them in the slot in the door.
That's how those bags were never that small. No, no. Oh, listen, the first year I got there, it came in a big thing. It was huge. And it was it was huge. It was Matt in the bag with it. It came up came up to about your thigh. If you sat on the floor, it came up to about, you know, reach everything. I mean, they give you shower slides, they give you like stuff, you know, you know, t shirts, sour slides. And of course, tons of food, tons of, you know, snacks, chips, you know,
Sausages, you know all kinds of and it was stuff that you couldn't get on commissary. So it's exotics. You know Reese the first when I when I got there the first time I got there was the first year they gave you one bag which I was thrilled at everybody was complaining because the year before they'd given us giving them two bags that size. So they got two bags.
and by the way they used to go when you would go into they would tell them bring your Tupperware because you could buy Tupperware bring your Tupperware when they went to the Christmas dinner or Christmas or sorry the holiday meal they would have them they would give them food and then they would give them extra food to put their Tupperware and then they would go back to the unit with the food
Wow, that didn't happen when I when I got there then that was happening. Yeah, it was it's been downward for feds. It's been downward trend. I'm telling you they were all going off. One guy told me that he ate the whole bag on the way back from picking. I thought that was the trend of all jails all prisons like they're trimming down trimming down when I first first started doing my time like the
Commissary limits were different. The items were different bags were bigger cheaper soups were you could get five for a buck. Now. It's a dollar per soup, which is hard to believe. That's insane. Oh, yeah, our soup a dollar soup $30 for 30 soups. You should be able to get three soups for a dollar. Yep. When we first started. Yeah, it was it was or you get like two soups a dollar from the fucking store, man.
Have any of you guys been locked up with anybody who's like been in international prisons that are like way better than the states? I have. The private prisons, he said? No, no, like international, like someone in Norway. Oh yeah, I've met people there. Every person that I've run across, they're like, oh, this is a hotel. Yeah, I was going to say most of them though, most of the ones I've been to are the prisons in the other countries are horrible or like you have no idea. Now I've also met guys that have been in like Spain,
Yes, like in Spain, they actually have you actually get a country club. Yeah, well and you get like like alcohol. I want to say and I could be wrong somebody right in prison. They're actually you get so much alcohol like a day like you get like a thing like boom a day you get medically.
I don't know why, but it was maybe, I don't know if it's wine or some kind of alcohol. I was like, there's, there was all kinds of things. You could have your watch. You could have like these guys had all kinds of stuff. It was like, well, same in like Mexico prison is you're just behind the wall. You can have everything shipped in like people's family can bring you in food, alcohol, whatever. If you have money, you can have your own cell. You can have all kinds of, but if you don't have money,
Yeah, you're living in like buildings, like there's no cells where they walk through. You're just behind that wall. So it's like, yeah, y'all figure it out. You can sleep wherever and whatever. And y'all figure it out. Y'all police yourselves. Let us know if anybody's dead. We'll come get the body. So what else do you think? What else are you? What is your other concern other than the economy with Trump?
Okay, so other than that.
And what's his name from South Korea, North Korea? Kim. Kim Jong-un. Yes. And somehow I think they have control and influence over him. And I think some of our secrets he'd be giving to them. So I just, I don't know. I mean, that's how I feel. I think the exact opposite because he's so patriotic. He's so American-centric. Yeah, I think he's concerned about you. You don't think he praises Putin?
Yeah, I think and I can see that I can see him but then again, I can see praising someone but drawing a hard line. I think he respects him. I don't see a hard line. He's a powerful alpha male. I just don't think there's that respect there because he's this leader of this country. I also am a leader of a country in that narcissistic type of thing. Yes. So I think that there's that respect.
I don't believe it's respect as a human being, as a narcissist, as a male. I think somewhere, in some line, he's subservient. I don't think they're equal. I really believe Trump thinks he's beneath him. But what way do you see that? Well, because he praises Putin and Putin doesn't praise him. Putin kind of like, I would prefer to have him.
You know, and we work better together or Putin's the style of their government in the style of what they do, that he's not going to openly, you know, praise him like that. But when, when because they're always together, so they always interact. I do think that there's this mutual. So when our intelligence was telling him that it was Russia that was spying and he said, well, I don't see no reason why it would be.
And then he kind of came back and said, well, you know, it's just like, I don't believe our intelligence agencies over Putin. I think Putin would not lie to me. You know, I think it's in with the type of person that Trump is very skeptical. Well, that when they say and he's like, but this is a good guy. You know, you don't just because it's Russia, Mother Russia. Well, you know, and see, that's the fear. I have a Putin Putin is the kind of guy that
I'm not going to kill you, somebody else is. I like that. I think that Trump's going to go in there and I think he's going to negotiate some kind of an agreement like, hey, you guys need to cut the war. Well, I think he's going to give Ukraine to Putin. I don't think he's going to give all of Ukraine, but I think he's going to keep a portion.
I think that's all he wants is a portion. I think you wanted the whole thing. I think he'd have taken the whole thing. They drove all the way into Kiev. So they've been fighting all the way into Kiev, but one like the first day he went straight for Kiev. So he was going to take only only because he wanted like, hey, look, I'm going to take what I want. You got to sit down. And he's like, no, as of right now, he hasn't got it. The United States just dumping tons of money into this war. Like that kills me. Like we're going to give all this money to you guys to fight this war.
To me, I think that's just stupid. I'd rather just we'll just in the United States. Well, then we'll be at war with Russia. Well, then we're at war with Russia. I don't have a fucking problem with finance. You think Trump's gonna go to war with Russia? No, I don't because I think Trump is like, look, we have our own problems. We have an economy that's failing. We need to go we you guys need to fix this and you have to fix it because we're going to cut the money off. So you guys will draw this line. And if you if you draw that line, we'll make sure it's maintained.
If you pass the line, we're just going to send American troops in. And then it's going to be so bad because the truth is, is that if North Carolina and South Carolina's National Guard could take out fucking the Soviet or could take out the Soviet Army. Right. It's horrible. I'm glad that got exposed. Right. Now it's garbage. It's probably China in the 80s.
The so, you know, I think that that I think he's going to fix that. I think he's going to think that's fixing. So invading another country is not the optimal. So the optimal solution is Russia withdrawals back into Russia. Ukraine gets Ukraine and Russia pays them some kind of some kind of reparations. That's the optimal solution. That's not happening. So the other option is we stop the fighting because we're not sending you any more money because we should be paying
With all that money, we could have health care. Like, what are we doing? Like, we're not getting any more money. We're definitely not getting health. We're not getting health care. I know that that bothers me. But I'm saying, why are we going to send all of this money? And look, I think Russia's wrong. You don't get to invade other countries. But he has invaded, like, there's never any perfect solution. So the, well, I mean, let's say the best solution that probably the best result that ever probably occurred
Ever was World War Two. Everybody got together and fought Hitler all the way back to extinction. And then we split their country up. That sounds fair to me. That sounds fair. We have a nowhere own country. Fuck you. You guys keep starting wars. Go fuck yourself. We're splitting your country up. That's the optimal optimal solution. The problem is it happened to the Soviet Union. And that's what Putin is trying to undo. No, no, that didn't happen. These well these countries broke off.
And they allowed them to break off and they started their own. That was per striker. They allow these countries to become. First of all, Soviet Union gobbled these countries up. Correct. And then finally, when the Soviet Union collapse, they broke off and become their own countries again. Putin's trying to rebuild the Russian Empire, the USSR. Yeah, not the Russian, not the SSR. He's trying to the former this the Russian Empire, which is prior to the Soviet Union there. He's trying to take back
Be the gyms of Europe. He doesn't want the isn't want like, um, uh, jica stand as some country. That's that's fucking bankrupt. And he's not interested. He wants the jewels. There's there's oil. There's a nuclear nuclear plant, right? He wants. That's what I want. These are the things that I want that I can exploit and hold everybody's in the world's nuts because I got their power, their oil. Here's the problem. The problem is, is that
The other European countries aren't holding their weight. So it's like all of us get together. Well, they don't have the resources. They do have the resources. We don't have the resources. You have any idea what the national debt is? It's fucking outrageous. It's blowing up. But our money is getting worth less and less every single day. But our commercial value. Yes. Thank you. Our commercial of what we buy and purchase is more it's like
By us being in debt is what's fueling the rest of the world. By us being the one to go, hey, we'll just make money out of nothing. And that's the premise of the United States. Debt generates income. Yes. So even in... That's what we're living in. Even in our recessive times, the income, the commercial beast that the United States is, we will never go
Belly up there's so many different they'll drop us up tied. Yeah, but you find all of that is what's causing inflation. Somebody just somebody right with the jet that generates the income like we could the United States as a commercial these other countries are the ones who are buying up our debt. It's all inflated. You can't just print money, but there are we doing that in we're printing money. Yeah, you're just printing money. That's what you can't just do it. No, because eventually it collapses.
We don't produce anything. We're not producing anything. We do oil now.
Well, that's not we're producing, we're pumping it out of the ground. That's you think oil is enough to sustain the entire United States? No, we don't manufacture anything is what I'm saying. So what I'm saying is we manufacture food, you're right. So we're not going to go well, we may go hungry, but we're not going hungry right now. But the point is, is like you put in these tariffs to other countries. And you say, Hey, guess what, in China, we're putting in tariffs, and you can build those cars,
in the United States and sell in the United States, or you ship them over here, then you have to pay higher prices. So what happens, or tariffs. So what happens is manufacturers here start building because now guess what, it's not worth it to buy from the Chinese. So you start your own manufacturing and you become a manufacturing hub. We were the manufacturing hub in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Until they figured out how to make it cheaper. Yeah, they're paying
employees in India a buck an hour. We just saw it on the video. Right. And what I'm saying is you put tariffs on look, it's going to hurt the other countries more than it's going to initially hurt us. But one thing Verizon, the best 5g network is expensive. Think again, bring in your AT&T or T-Mobile bill to a Verizon store
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Workers again that are making 50 bucks an hour $60 an hour like these guys that work in these factories now don't make that they can't Okay, you're right so the 12,000 workers that work now I'm talking about the 400,000 workers that all those jobs went over or the million workers that went to China and that those of those jobs wouldn't be able to afford bringing those jobs here and
Because the cost of running a huge Nike factory over there has to be the difference. Do you have any idea how much profit there is in Nike? You're right. They're making them over there for $4.50. But you want to shave down profit margins for patriotism. For patriotism, yes. I want to have jobs in America. I think you worry about American. But your heart
And the financial prowess of this country is two different things. Like if I'm a business owner, and I'm as American as the next, and I love this country and its opportunities, but if I had a business, if I'm starting a business, I'm already thinking about India, Africa, wherever the labor's cheap. Right, so will you put tariffs on those?
Right. And so the person who's buying it just pays the tariff. So you're saying, look, I manufactured this shoe. It cost me $2 to manufacture it. And then I sell it in America for $10. I make an $8 profit. Right. You're going, I'm going to put a tariff on that of $10. Okay. So now I sell it for $20 and make an $8 profit. So two things happen. One,
The fact that those shoes aren't made here right are because it's too is because they sell them. They make them cheaper over there. Now there's a tariff. So now we can make them there. We can make them here now for the same price. So they lose those jobs and we get those jobs. It takes a little bit to build up the manufacturing, but we get those jobs. Why would you put those restrictions and also by the way, by the way, he's saying now they can make it here because we get to hire American workers to do it.
And I'm saying that one, those companies that are buying from China, those tariffs, by the way, those tariffs that people are paying, if they say, no, fuck that, we're going to keep those jobs in China, and we'll just pass those tariffs on, those fees on to the American public, well, the government gets that money. So that helps. The two, if they keep them there, maybe you don't buy those products there anymore.
And three, or maybe they say, you know what, let's go ahead and manufacture it here. And we won't take as much. We won't have as much of a profit margin here because people aren't going to spend that extra money. They're not going to spend $200 for a pair of Nikes when they were buying them from China. If you want to break out the actual dollar amount of $500 or $1000 or whatever, we can do that. But in the end, if you double the prices, the demand goes down. So people don't buy as many. That's just the facts.
So what did I do to the economy? What does it do the economy? So we're going to do the tariff is going to double the prices. The demand goes down. What does that do to the economy? Well, it if if to make those if it was 100,000 employees in China. Selling 100,000 shoes. And they put tariffs on them and we say, you know what we're going to do. We're going to go ahead and manufacture those here. OK, and we're going to double the price.
And so what does it do? Let's say it cuts the demand in half. We still got a, we still got 50,000 new jobs in America. That's what it did. Is the demand less? Yes, but we got 50,000. We didn't have this process there. That transition is a process. Maybe it's six months. Maybe it's a year, but in a year, guess what? What? How long do you think it takes to set up a in the mean? All right. So I want to talk about in the meantime, so let's just say a year.
In the meantime, what does that do to the economy? So for six months, I don't get new Nike. Oh my God. I don't get a new iPhone that they're making for $30 and selling for a thousand. What is the percentage you think foreign-made goods or parts in goods? Tons, but he's not talking about putting tariffs on everybody.
Just talking about China. He's threatening, threatening Canada. He's threatening of it. He hasn't put tariffs on anybody. He's not even president. He's threatening. And just by the threat alone and knowing he's crazy enough to do it, you know what happens? They go, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Let's talk about this. Let's renegotiate NAFTA. Let's renegotiate these types of deals that weren't. But what's the renegotiation? The end goal is more jobs in America and less jobs overseas.
The end goal is more jobs in America. I don't care about overseas. Alright, so more jobs in America, less jobs overseas. So the negotiation would be higher prices. Temporarily, higher prices. Period. It costs more to manufacture. Let's assume that these companies, do you know how much profit do you think is on an iPhone?
I mean, in what aspect? 80% of the cost of the phone? The equipment? How much what their price point is? Do they make, if an iPhone cost $800, do they charge $1,000? No, I think they profit 80%. Yeah, I think they profit like $900. It's 100% profit.
So if the iPhone costs them by the time they ship it over here, they build it, they ship it over and it's 400 500 bucks. You know what they sell it for a thousand. They double it. You know business. Yeah, I understand. But you know what else is business is that if you want to make money on volume instead of just jacking your prices up, then you don't make a hundred percent profit like most companies don't most companies like you do. It's a better phone than an iPhone.
Most of them. Yeah, but they don't have 100% profit. So you know what I want phone would do is they drop their profit a little bit you drop your profit a little bit and let's say you say oh you don't okay well then guess what then let's say you sell 50% less iPhones. That's I'm okay with 50% off. I've still got mine. I don't buy a new one every year. This is a fucking this is like a no this is no it's not even it's like a 12 or something. That's a 13. Is it? Yes.
What are they at now? 16. Yeah, I don't have a 16. This thing's great. Yeah, I have an 11 and a 13. This thing's great. I think I have 11. I think I have the same phone as yours. So it sounds to me, and you get 50,000 more jobs. But what you're saying is starting to become less American. It's more restrictions. You're concerned. But you're putting restrictions on me as a business.
What if I want to take my business and take it over there? Take it over there. But if you build the manufacturing over there and you don't hire, you're telling me you think it's American to hire Chinese to sell to Americans? It's capitalism. I think you can still do that. You can do that. Because it's my business. You could do that. We're just going to put tariffs on it. Okay. And that's fine. So what I'm saying is,
More jobs means that people more jobs in America mean that more Americans have money to buy things in America manufactured by Americans. That's what it means. So I don't see how that's on American. I would say more manufacturing jobs more manufacturing because that's everything if you record unemployment right now, we're at a low economy was doing great.
You just told me the economy is great. As I said, we had a record unemployment. Low unemployment is low. It's going up. It's listen prices when the housing when the housing bubble a lot. So you're saying more manufacturing jobs is what you're saying. Yes, necessarily more jobs just more manufacturing jobs. That's what you're saying. I'm saying more jobs in general. I think more manufacturing jobs produces more jobs pretty much everywhere.
Well, true, but if you're at a record unemployment right now, you know, I'm saying if you had a low unemployment right now, we're also just printing money. Correct. That's not I don't understand that you don't understand. You can't just keep printing money. You just can't. I understand that's that's what happened. That's what happened in, you know, after World War one in Germany. I mean, that's practically what started the second World War is that they just got to a point where they couldn't
They weren't able to pay their bills, so they just started printing money, and it worked great for a while. And then eventually the money, the hyperinflation, the money became worth nothing. They're not America. So, I mean, we operated. We've been operating. We've been doing this since
The inception of the United States. No, no, no, because before we had gold, we had gold in Fort Knox. We were on the gold standard until Nixon. Yeah. And then Nixon, this is the seventies, which is like, which was fucking stupid, but whatever. That's, I mean, it's, it's the kind of to go off of, and then they just, we sold the gold by the way, but it's the kind of go off of the fact that we are the heartbeat
That fuels the pumps, the blood of economy through the entire world or a majority of the world, right? You know, and other countries operate like even states don't have that. They have to make them balance their budget. Other countries operate within the limits of what they can produce and sell. But the fact that we are there, one of their main exports, right? We are the heartbeat of them. Your proposal is
We're going to stop being the heartbeat of the world, and we're going to make sure we pump and do this all for ourselves, and we're going to kind of remove the jobs from the rest of you guys. But we owe debt. To stay on top. Right. Because right now, all these other countries, their economies, you're like, oh, India's economy is great. Right. At our expense. China's economy is great at our expense. Yes. Right. Fuck China. Fuck India. The debt that we owe will probably prevent us from saying,
Sure, by us doing this, we're laying off tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in your country. You don't elect a president to look out for China.
No, unless you it's biting, but he's concerned about everybody else is everybody else except for the American citizens. That's what I'm concerned about American citizens. And I'm telling you the way it's working now is working you. You can't change tariffs is not going to change our dependency on these other countries for parts food and products there. It will eventually it will it's never going to be 100% with two things.
that worries me about that. The two things. First of all, the impact on other countries and the fact that we owe them other countries like China. China buys most of our debt and in turn we buy most of our products from them. But second thing is you're exporting a lot of the labor that would be running these manufacturing plants. Mexicans and illegal immigrants
A majority now I'm not going to say that none of them are criminals because some of them are transporting drugs in and that's a whole different story and they're drug dealers. They put down drug dealers, but our insatiable appetite for drugs is what makes us so profitable. The one thing you're talking about on tariff wise is doesn't even include the frigging our
Our consumption of dope, but well, I mean, I think I think that that drug should be legalized. Oh, no, I don't think that'd be horrible. We just legalize. Yeah, you're not smoking a joint and being like, well, let's go rob a bank. Well, wait a minute. I think so. Opiates, right? They were legalized, right?
But right now you can you can get opiates people get them anyway, like they're getting a prescription and right, but people buy them anyway. They can buy them anyway. What I'm saying is is it look you could go with this you could go with the model of hey, let's do this. Let's go ahead and reduce the population the incarcerated population by half. Let's put these guys up. I didn't deserve 26 years. You could have given me five or six years or 10 years and I would have done
Two or three years and been out and gone to a halfway house, put me on a monitor. That means that they were willing to spend about $500,000, $600,000 on me. $500,000 to incarcerate me.
That wasn't going to help help society. So so you give me so if you reduce that population and you say look, you know what we're going to do, we're going to take Zach and we're going to put him on ankle monitor. We're going to send him home. Yep, you can go get a job. He's got to pay $100 a month for the for the monitoring of the ankle thing is that or is that you want to stay in prison for another 10 years? No, I'd rather do that. Of course. So he goes out so you can easily reduce the prison population by half. But guess what? There's still that money. So we take that money and we go ahead and we we take that money and you dump that into education.
Then you go ahead and you tax you, you make drugs, maybe not necessarily legal. You like a medical marijuana or whatever you want to do that where they can buy some kind of opiate or something, you know, some types of drugs, right? Like a lot of these drugs are, they have been legal at times, right? What about, shoot, you used to be able to buy, what are they mothers little helpers? They would, it was basically speed. Like most countries, a lot of countries, you could buy speed, like make these things available.
And then the money that that generates, take a portion of that money and put it into free rehabs. If you have a problem, we'll put you in free rehab for 30 days, maybe 60, maybe 90. They're not going to go. Okay, well, they're going to, here's the thing. They are going to go if they want to get off. They really want to get off. They don't want to get off. Right, exactly. But here's the whole thing. Drugs are free. No, no, not free. I didn't say free. What I'm saying is that make them available, make them cheap.
Make them cheap and safe. Like right now, what is it? Finny has been prescribed and been used for decades.
It's safe. It's killing everybody. It is killing everybody because of what they're doing with it. They're not cutting it. They're sticking into all these different types. They will abuse. Every single addict will abuse it. If you make it free and readily available, they're not free, but if now they can go to the corner store or whatever and purchase it, their tolerance is going to build up on this good, clean, safe drug. And then they'll be abusing that and they'll be overdosing over whatever they can get. Right. Well, it's not like we're losing patriots here.
They had an opportunity if they wanted to get off. Some people, no offense, some people just, that's how they want to live their life. Now, they might say, well, I'm hooked on drugs. Great, we can send you this rehab. Well, they go, they drop out in three days or a week or whatever. If you have quality rehabs they can go to and they just don't want you. Some people simply
want to be drug addicts. That's all they want to do. You do know statistically, Matt, that white people are more on drugs than blacks. I don't have a problem with that. Okay. And I'm saying give my people someplace to go for free so they can get off it. And you know what, if they don't want to get off it and they want to end up overdosing or be a professional dopehead,
That's fine, because probably they're going to get it so cheap. They don't have a Rob to do it. They could probably get some kind of manual labor job. Let's face it. Most drywallers painters roofers are on some kind of drug, alcohol, some kind of dope. Yes, you can drywall a house and lay carpet and put roofs on on crank and beyond you and beyond math.
So only this time you don't have to pay a ton with it and it's safe. It's measured and it's safe and you could be a functional out Attic and if it's someday you want to get clean. We have a place for you to get clean and you don't have to spend a whole bunch of time in prison because it doesn't help you. I don't like that. That's it. That's it. That's the reason I don't I don't like how Amsterdam looks. No.
Visually, yeah, I've been free not free. It's beautiful like you can line up in front of another beautiful, but people have a problem and That addiction shouldn't be capitalized on we monetize what you're saying You're saying they have a problem arrest them and throw them in prison, but you're not saying give them because they're committing crimes What I'm saying it you're saying but there's they don't give an opportunity to go to a 60-day rehab
But they do all the time they but they literally they go out the dorm after dorm will cats get coming in go out come in go out and when they come in up you got a drug charge drug program, you know, they go in the drug program. They clean up they gain weight. They slick back the hair. They look fantastic. They leave and they give the drugs something to eat on because they gain weight in such as they're good and clean until they can get ahead. So what you're saying right now what I'm hearing is that the system right now is not working.
It's not working because they focus, they focus on the, they focus on the seller of the, so there basically is let's punish the people who are providing the drugs, right? And which, which is usually marginalized communities because what happens is they give the drugs to the marginalized. The, the, the, the, the, the line to the streets is through the marginalized communities because if you notice they want help for people on Finney,
They went after the big prescription drug companies over the people who were on opioids and addicted to opioids. Yeah, like so they're like, well, let's just punish the people who are providing it to them. I mean, for a brief moment, they were arresting doctors. Yeah, they were profiting. That was a huge thing. For a brief moment. You have a great ability at pointing out what the problem is.
What's the solution? The solution definitely isn't going to be to from the trickle down up. It's not like let's provide help for such and such because the fact that a matter is the fact is when you go on in Tampa in Nebraska, all the shelters and stuff have beds available and some of the you know, the cove and all like these drug programs, although you have to get on the waiting list and all that those places are available. It's the want and just because like, okay, I'm addicted to a drug.
That doesn't make you go rob or do this or do that. Okay, once again, but what's the solution? It would be legalizing drugs because they've legalized marijuana and made it a multi-billion dollar industry. Right, but that's not something that Six is in favor of. Well, I mean, people are profiting off of people's addiction. His answer leads to the legalization.
They've proven that marijuana is a non addictive, not physically addictive. I know plenty of people who literally smoke all day long because they enjoy it. Right. They enjoy that. I know guys that do counter that they just like the smell of it. I so I mean, I smoke but like right now, now that which I'm not thinking, damn, actually, I am thinking, yeah, after this argument, but yeah, I'm not thinking like, okay, we got, you know, it's not physically addictive like that.
Yeah, okay, I said physically addictive, but mentally it's addictive. You're constantly you enjoy it, right? So I love to ride a motorcycle. I'm always thinking about it, but I'm not like, you know, what's what is so you say there's some drugs you'd be okay with with legalizing or is it just just it's just I like how it is now like don't legalize and sell brown.
They do legalize and so opioids are well, you know what I mean? Like let's not have like cure leaf, you know, let's not have Dope Dash and you can you know, which I mean it makes a lot of sense I hear where you're coming from that that would be a huge influx of taxable monies, but you're profiting off of the blood of children.
You're profiting off of who's profiting off it now who the dealers the immoral guys that are so what I'm saying is let's go ahead and let Pfizer and the the other companies manufacturer you can get yourself a little bottle and you can take a little pill and it's measured and it's cheap and it's inexpensive and they're taxed
And we get rid of the dealers profiting off it because somebody's profiting off it. Oh, wait, is it the cartels? Is it the local dealer? Is it everybody down the chain? They're all profiting. Someone's profiting. Now I'm saying let's
Let's make it safe. If you can't beat them, join them. I am. We'll become dope dealers, but we'll give you better dope, cheaper. True. And we can tax it. Absolutely true. And fix the roads. Absolutely true. We can tax it, and possibly. Because we can't beat you. And we can give you a safe drug rehab to go to if you want to change. I'm not saying you have to, but if you want to. And I don't mean, by the way, when they send you to a drug program in the state, they are garbage. They look like garbage. I'm talking about
You're I'm talking about a nice clean facility you get your you get your latte in between class run by professionals like a decent place like I don't see that as a solution. I just know there's no good answer. We're going to profit off. There's no good answer. We can't fix. Did you ever see the movie Argo? I know exactly what you're talking about. I didn't see it.
So there's a scene in Argo, where they're trying to get the hostages. Well, it's not even the hostages. It's a group of Americans that have escaped to the Canadian embassy. But I want to say there's five people there, I could be wrong. And the CIA is trying to come up with a plan to get them out of Iran. And when they present the plan,
He says, here's the plan we think we should go with. And the director says, so you think this is a good plan? He says, No, no. There are no good plans. There's nothing but bad plans. But this is the best bad plan you have. Yes, out of all the bad plans, this is the best bad plan we have. There are no solutions.
People are going to use drugs. I'm saying what is the safest way we can do it so that we can collect the taxes and help these people and help society. I think there's growing pains. We will write it. I think in Oregon, in Oregon, they've morals face value in Oregon said that we have horrible in Oregon ethics and moral problems. And they've tried it. They've tried it. A couple of states have tried to have legal zones where people can go and actually use drugs. Yeah.
Hey, I have a question for you. What would happen to the cartel if Pfizer started making a form of ice or Pfizer started making these products? There has been a huge influx of marijuana shops and cure leaves and all that. People are still selling pot just fine. You think that it wouldn't harm the cartels at all?
I mean, they're obviously there would be a shift in but you know, I can buy I can buy I can buy cart ice on the street or $100 or I can buy the same amount for $30. It's never cheaper. The Curly that they sell and you go into and they've got seven different strands 20 different shank is the same various as Tyrone very expensive. And then when you want the good stuff, it's
Big business, profitable America is not going to throw off some cheap good dope. But what if you could? Then of course, I would prefer this option over that option. But as businessmen,
So it's not the plan that bothers you. It's just the cost is the real issue. No, it's the plan. I wouldn't want to legalize drugs as a thing with the face of my country.
I don't want my country to look like we're all legalized. I'm not talking about the perks and all of that. That's pharmaceutical stuff. I'm talking about pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine, pharmaceutical grade Brown, which by the way, all of these are all of these are like like oxys and you know, these are all of it. There's a difference between selling drugs, but they're already giving for a medical purpose.
There's a difference to me. I think that that line changes constantly. It's blurred. It's constantly changing because it used to be 20 years ago, if you walked in to look, the first time that I walked in, I had a prescription for Xanax. Okay. You know what I told them? And this is true. I told them I had had a panic attack and I explained what had happened.
And then he said, Oh man, he said, you need to, I said, now I said, my dad told me that he had a prescription for Xanax and that I probably needed a prescription for Xanax. And he goes, yeah, of course. And he wrote me a prescription. This is just the local general practitioner wrote me a, that's how they all do right. Well, they don't now because I got out of prison and I went to go get a prescription for Xanax and I went to three different doctors and each one of them cost me 250 bucks just to walk in the door and be told no, no.
Because they were abusing it back when I got it. So the point is, is what happened was the line between what was medically necessary and I never abused it by the way.
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I took that probably two pills a month. I almost never took it. And I had plenty of stress.
So or I would break it in half, you know, like if I had to go in front in public, I would take one because I was going to be around 400 people and I got very anxious. So I would take it. So I didn't abuse it. But I'm saying that medical line has is constantly moving on what's medically necessary and what's not necessary. What I'm saying is, and I don't even think that a doctor should be prescribing. I think you can go to like a head shop.
We're trying to run the cartels out of business. That's what I think happens. Is it a good solution? No, it's a horrible solution.
Is it immoral? I don't think it's any more moral than what's happening right now. I think taking some drug addict that's buying and selling or even selling just to get enough money to feed his habit and you send him to jail for 15 years because he brought a 22 that doesn't even work to sell a $15 crock and you send him to prison for 15 years? Is that immoral? Yeah, I do think.
I believe you in that. I'm with you. And I'm even with you with the, you know, legalize, get the tax, the money. I see exactly where you're coming from. I just think it's a bad solution. But that's what he's saying. It's the... There's no good solution. It's lesser of the bad. Because, like, there's no stopping it. And could you imagine what you could do with the DEA? The DEA who?
We don't even need you can take that you can take those 12,000. I don't know how many by the way somebody is going to fact I think I think they all they you take that once but you take that 12,000 man arm person army agents and you just say, we're done with you. You guys we don't need you anymore. I love Trump's thing where he said the alcohol tobacco and fire atf he's like he was I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he said isn't alcohol legal?
Aren't firearms legal? Isn't tobacco legal? Why do we have an ATF? They enforce abuses of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. No, they don't. It's a police force. It's not like they're going. It's not like they're going to
All of the like if you want to have them go to the gun stores and check records. Okay, but they're not they're setting up stings. They're doing undercover. I don't need you to do undercover missions. We don't need you to do all that. I need you to go to make sure that these guys are getting the right proper proper verification when someone applies to buy a gun. I need someone to the police by the way, if you get pulled over and you're you're a convicted felon in charge of a firearm. Guess what? That's a local crime.
I agree with that. Do you know back in like
Around 2010 ish. You're right. They were setting up stings. They have some kid. They set up a fake robbery. Like, hey, we're going to Rob six. They were just out there setting up kids, teenagers, the one commit robberies. So they were shooting at them. They were reverse things. By the way, they were reverse things. And the one that busted it was the kid that
They went to his brother, and they said to him, to his brother, we know a guy or they went to a kid and they said, Listen, this kid never never had a job, by the way, he's like,
18 19 years old he lives at home doesn't have a job and they said listen we know where there's a and this is a ci we know where there's a drug house and there's a hundred thousand dollars in cash there and a couple pounds of marijuana whatever everybody did it this is reverse john john gordon john gordon yeah but john gordon shot the guy so here's what happened yeah the kid uh um so the get the kid he's on the couch his buddies are telling him like yeah yeah yeah man all we're gonna do is
Is we're going to drive up there. We're going to kick in the door get the money and leave and the kids guys like I work there so you can actually Rob me. You know, I'm saying tie me up. I mean, he's a drug house. Yeah, so he's like, he's like, so I'm the guy you'll be Robin whatever to the kids. I don't remember that I'm the guy right, right? Well, there's two guys.
And there's a couple of guys. So the kid says, okay, he's like, Listen, though, well, no, I think yours is wrong. Because they one of the things they did to the kid was they said, we need you to bring god, a gun and an ID that I'm sorry, a badge that says you're a cop. And he says, Well, I don't know where I can get a gun or a badge. And he says, bro, he said, you, you got to get a gun and badge. He's like, Okay, well, my my grandfather has a gun. I can probably go to his house. He has a gun.
So he gets the gun. He gets the gun from his grandfather. By the way, it's like a 1910 Colt revolver that doesn't have a pen. It doesn't work. Kid gets the gun. He's like, I got a gun. He's like, Okay, he's like, I don't think it works. He's like, well, we don't need it to work. Because they don't need it. It could be plastic for all we care. They get in the car. He says, Did you get the badge? The guy kid goes, I don't have a badge.
And he says, it's okay, I brought one for you. He takes it, clip it on your bed, he clips it on his belt. They get to the fucking place. They go into the they jump out and they start heading to the door to kick the door in and ATF. Get on the ground, get on the ground, get on the ground. Do you know why they had him bring a gun?
So it's an arm robbery. It's an arm robbery. It's an enhancement. Why do they have him bring the badge? It's an enhancement. You get a minimum man story. So he ends up getting he you can go to prison. You can go to trial and get yourself 20 years or you can plead guilty and get 10. That's the case and the gun doesn't even work by the way, but that doesn't matter. They don't care about that. So the point is is that that's the case that the guy actually like fought the case all the way to the Supreme Court and got the whole thing overturned because they went from
In one, the first year they started doing it, it was 500 reverse stings. It went from 500 to like 1500 to 3500 to 8500. In like four years, it went that because it was working so good. Yeah, setting people up works well. And so eventually they said, okay, we're going to reverse our book because we're being told that we're
We're setting these guys up and it's entrapment. In one case, the judge threw it out and the prosecutor lost it. Like you're right. That was a huge problem. What I'm saying is why do we, do you understand what they were doing? Is ruining kids, black kids entrapment. You got a good for you, bro. You got a 19 year old kid who's never had a job who lives at his at his parents house broke and you promised him he was going to get
He was going to get one third of $100,000 and all he had to do was come with you with his broken gun. Wow, man, you got him 10 years in prison, right? You got 10 years and 10 years in prison at $30,000 as $300,000 for you to get this kid who's playing video games on his mom's couch off the his mom might have been like, okay, well, that's gonna save me a little bit of money, you know, on him going there, but she still got to go visit them the whole time and put money on his books. The point is, is that you're gonna spend $300,000.
to set up a kid that was never going to do a fucking thing. And they and that those dudes, he's not a 10 year criminal. No, he's not a criminal. He's just some idiot.
You're patting yourself. He couldn't even fill out an application to get a job. You're patting yourself on the back. You were so proud of yourself. He's a real criminal. What took one off the streets? And they were so proud of themselves. They got rid of the 500 to 8,500 in four years. They got rid of the entrap. The feds got rid of the entrap. I've helped about, when I was in jail for legal work, I helped about five people. And when they would tell me the story, I go, this is strangely familiar. All of them are identical to that.
But a couple people I help there are situations where they actually shoot at those kids. Oh, yeah, that was that was John Gordon. He was the same thing. Let's rob the guy and they start shooting at him. Yeah, like they come in they'll blast in with gunshots and everything and start shooting at I know a guy named Kevin who said that when they were going to the spot.
He hears the gunshots and he's about to grab his gun and he's looking around and they come out of nowhere. He's like had I grabbed my gun, they were going to kill me. What was it? What was it the same thing with the I think it was the same thing with the kid that lost his leg. Yes. Yes. I remember his name. His name was um, he only went because his brother asked him to drive and he said he didn't want to go. They killed his brother and blamed him. Yes, they charged him with the murder. He got 30 years.
Patting themselves on the back, bro. Just taking off good clean people or good criminals off the street. We're doing the right thing. They're saying these guys were predisposed. So their whole they got rid of the any broke persons predisposed to that. That's what one judge said. That's what he goes. You're you're targeting broke people and promising them money.
Easy money, you're taking somebody, I'm fucking broke and here you come. A risky plan. Yeah, for easy money and you're telling me it's easy and I'm walking right into it. Yeah, and I'm walking right into a trap. You know, my favorite is, my favorite is the drug deal where they say, hey, I'm going to sell you a bag here. I got you on, you're on wire. You're done. I just sold it to you. You just committed a felony. Why didn't I arrest you? No, no, we want to get a few more buys.
We get another one, another felony, another felony, another felony. Have we hit the minimum, the mandatory minimum yet? Yes, we do. Now we arrest you because before you could have got probation, but now you get five years. That's the same. You know what's so funny about those half the prison population can be reduced and you haven't you haven't done a fucking thing to harm society at all. Really just probably helping to correct some injustice really.
I was in a dormitory with a gentleman, an older black guy, and he told me, he said, young man, back when I was young, he said, young man, I shit you not, I am here for $20 rock, got five years. They sent him to five years. And all of his, you can tell the type of person, you know, he's smoker, this and that. Not this career rock seller or whatever, $20 worth of powder.
And because it was rock. Yeah. Yeah. How much money are they going to spend on five years? And that's the state. The state is it say the state state is about 20,000 per person. The feds is about 32 state is 20. Here's the thing. So for five years, they're going to spend $100,000 to keep a fucking dude locked up for $20. And they're going to tell themselves that that's okay. But here's the here's the here's the outside of that coin though.
The recidivism that is so high. So like as me Johnny, I'm just playing the devil's advocate as me Johnny citizen. I obviously don't want criminals, you know, while I'm going to the store. So like guys that have this
premise of being tough on crime and all that. That's why they get elected. No, because it's a selling point, bro. It's not harming anybody. They would say it is because the criminals, the guys that we've proven that commit crimes, they're getting out, they're going to jail and they get back out and they do the same stuff again fast. They get out and jump to the
To the crime. Put them in a drug rehab and give them a job. And if he still fucks up, then make it reasonable for him to be able to buy it where he can work at a labor place and buy it. And he can smoke as much as he wants. We're not going to keep throwing these guys in jail. But playing the devil's advocate again, get them out, put them in a rehab, doing such and such and such. So now they may be thinking, I'm spending a lot of rehab costs money. These programs take employees and
putting all these guys on ankle monitors and stuff. Well, if you look at the data, ankle monitor just doesn't work. I disagree. Oh, no, I mean, just on it. So I'm going to tell you that there was a room full of people that did not make it won't make it the small percentage of Matt Cox is out there that go to prison, develop a plan,
and become so locked in that I'm going to change because I don't like this. I don't want anymore. The percentage of those people is very small. Right, but the alternative isn't to give up on them and throw them in prison for the rest of their life. The alternative is to keep spending more money to try to rehabilitate them. By the way, it's not more money because if you spend, if it's in the state, if it's $20,000,
Over the course of five years, that's $100,000. If this guy was on the street, I could spend $50,000 and you can educate him in some something to do where he can make make a living. And then if he wants to keep using drugs, he can keep using drugs. That's fine. Because the drugs are are are reasonably priced and they're they're safe. Now, I'm not saying that you're going to make him a financial manager while he's also doing crack.
or should I say rock? So while he's doing rock, you know, I'm not going to say you're a rockhead, you're my rockhead financial planner, although that'd be a great, you know, rock, rockhead finance, rockhead finance. I saved you money, you didn't even know you had. But you know where he can work in a manufacturing job, you know, he can work in, in, in something in a labor job, he can, he can drywall, he can paint, he can do something like that. And then by the way, those jobs, there's there's tons of those guys, like I probably say,
50 60% of those labor forces have guys that are professional alcoholics or professional addicts, even if it's only cigarettes or something cigarettes, alcohol, some kind of drugs. And they do great work. So I'm saying what's what's not an alternative. What's not the solution is
He goes to jail for for five years here, and then he gets out and two years later, he gets another seven years and two years later, he gets another two years and two years later, he gets another he gets eight years like that's not the solution. I can, it costs a drug rehab, you can say, hey, man, that's a nice drug rehab, they put a lot of effort in that. And they really, really did a bunch of stuff. And that was an expensive drug rehab. You're right. It was an expensive drug rehab. It costs $10,000 for him to be there for a month.
It didn't cost $20,000. It didn't cost $30,000. It damn sure didn't cost $100,000. And you know what happens? Maybe it fixes him. Maybe. Maybe. To your point. Straight life is very, very, very difficult. To your point. Society, especially with prices. I did the drug rehab thing as an alternative to incarceration.
And it was an 18 month program. They had the horses out there. Like it was a very nice program. We got the bus to work and everything. And I got to sit firsthand with drug addicts. And like my eyes were open to their perspective of stuff. Like I met a guy who would steal his mother's clothes. Wow, bring it to
Play it again, Plato closet. Yeah, Plato's closet. Wow. And what they wouldn't buy. Well, I'm sure it wasn't clothes she wore. No, no, no. It was clothes she wore. It was because he had run out of stuff stealing in the house. So he would steal what he could. And what they wouldn't buy at Plato, he would just walk out the front door and drop it.
Because I've gotten everything. Where else am I going to bring it back home? So I got to sit around people with that mindset, and I watched them change, right? And I learned a lot about myself in that situation. I just put instead of rock, but money building that blank. And there was a lot of addictive personalities that I have, mind you.
All of that is well and good when you're in these rehabilitation centers. You're not drug dependent. You've got all the synapses snapping and clicking. The minute you get out, what resources are available? For one. For two, you have to have someone with the correct mindset. You can't rehabilitate what's in here. So when you're out and free and you don't have to go to bed because they turn the lights off at eight,
And now you're free and clear and you have to get on the bus and go, that's a different thing. That's a different beast. And it's hard for people to make that that change up here. I had to walk to pace setters, right today labor, because I didn't have a walk home. But I was committed to not going back again. You think that every single person that went to that place went right got out and immediately got back on drugs?
I would say from my experience 98% 98 98 out of 100 you think didn't go back because I believe like some people got family that would damn well hey that's his view and I say that confidently like because I knew people there
Even when I did the drug thing at Falkenberg and they had the in-house drug treatment. So I ran into a lot of those people and I ran into the people that knew other people and the stories are all the same, man, you know, what's the name that you know, one thing I shot you or I'm riding my bike. I'll pull up at a gas and guess what? I see the other what's the name and he's asking for a dollar right or three, you know, it's hard like the rehabilitation thing sounds
Fantastic. Help the homeless. All that stuff sounds, but it is absolutely the person. Let's assume it's 2%. Okay. If we break out pen and pencil right now and take those hundred people that we're going to get five years at $20,000 in the state apiece. And 2% of them, every one of them that goes into the drug rehab, continually gets better and better and better. In the end,
It's still a better solution to send them to rehabs than it is to lock them up for five years. First of all, the five years is just their first prison sentence. They're going to keep coming back and come back. Let's say 2% get better every single time. The drug rehab doesn't cost but 10 grand for 10 or for 30 to 60 days. No, that drug rehab is way more expensive than they want it out of my insurance Phoenix House wanted for the 18 months. These people don't have insurance?
I'm talking about a state-run facility, not something that's appointed by the judge in New York. I've been to that one too. And you think that one costs how much? The state-run one? They're not charging $20,000 or $30,000 for 30 days. They're not charging that. And it doesn't matter anyway, because remember it was a five-year prison sentence. It was $100,000. You're talking about $100,000 versus what? If they pay $20,000?
30 for 60 days. I'm talking to saying and 2% keep repeating in the end. I think that that drug and some people is just never going to change. They're not going to change, but they'll just keep going back and going back and going back. You know, I'm talking to a friend of mine that gets out in I think April and and very addicted to meth and has not taken any drug rehabilitation.
So I was asking today. I'm like, I thought them on the phone over here. I'm like, what about what about your addiction? He's like, well, I've been without it for eight years. And so I just have to not want to go around that and I want to get around my family. What do you think his chances are zero? He said he hasn't even had the urges anymore because he's there. Like a and everything said other than they're like, I could have got high when I was here, but I've been turning it down. It's different.
That's different. Like I could have gotten hot because his homeboy might have bought, spent 20 bucks on some pills. What about the, so you think the longer that that person has been addicted to a drug, the more chance they go back to it? Not, not the length of time. It's absolutely the person. Well, he's saying that he's done. It's not only physically addictive. Like it's like when I'm bored and I got nothing to do, that mind goes to toiling on all the old stuff.
Or when I go to hang out and I'm with a chick and everything, those feelings come up. I'm with a chick. I usually smoke some meth. The sex is different because I associate good sex, a good hanging out, but with the drug. So that's what it now chilling sitting in P dorm. There's no real urge. The real urge is from when he's got 20 bucks in his pocket. He had me convinced this morning.
Zero chance. It's zero chance. But what I'll say is this, if he doesn't believe himself that like, that stuff is not even an option. That's what they say. It's just it's filthy. It's like you have to change your whole. So what is it? What is the percentage? What's the likelihood that I walked into a halfway house that had 100 people in it?
I sat down with a chick, started flirting with her, ended up with her, married her, and she's a long-term drug addict, meth. And then I just happened to pick one of the 2% that doesn't re-offend as far as going right back to meth, because I don't think that it's 2%.
Is the likelihood that I walked in there sat with that person and ended up with that person guess what everybody there was had gone to almost everybody there was probably for drugs. I'd say 70% of a feather, but she would you were attracted to something that
Or maybe the percentage is a little higher. Maybe it's a little higher. What was her perception of the meth? I mean, was she committed to not selling meth? She's been smoking ice. She was 11 years old. Yeah, but was she committed to getting off of it when she was there? Was her commitment like, I'm never doing meth again? She's been committed to getting off meth many, many times. She's gotten off for six months. She's gotten off for nine months. Every time she ever found out she was pregnant, immediately stopped doing it.
And then she would have the baby and then whatever six months later a year later. Boom. She start up again. Bam. She start up again. Boom. She start the guy. She date this guy. He's does math. They boom. They start up again. That's a trigger, right? If the guy you're dating does math, but it's exactly how you it's up to rehabilitation after rehabilitation. She did do art app. She did do art app that life is different for that person, right? Like there with someone that supports them.
I don't think you should be able to get out of prison till you take an art app style program. I think that's how good I think our DAP is what absolutely. You've never heard me say that. I promise you. I have all about your book Matt.
My book mocks it. It doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I think it's, I think it's a great pro. I think it's a great program. I mocked the people. How many idiots, the people running the program. Half of them are psychos. Yeah. I agree with that people. What are DAP? Oh, it's a, it's a, it's a residential drug treatment program inside of prison where for nine months you go in, you go into our DAP is drug and alcohol treatment. What?
You go into a special housing unit where every day you program several hours a day.
I mean, everybody in the in the program is everybody in that unit is programming. So they're all art app. Oh, so been around, right? So it's nine months of behavior modification. Nine months, they're not fucking they're not fucking around, bro. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. And you're lucky, because I'd say 25. Well, I'd say 10% get kicked out, maybe 25% get rephased, where you have to go back into another three months. I knew one guy who was like, he got rephased. And he was like, man, looks like another three months.
Because you know, they do it in phases, right? So something you go back and you like there's like three phases. He's like, Yep, looks like I'm going to go back. But one of your first the first one of the first things you learn is to take responsibility. But when he went into his team meeting, and they were talking to him about his victims, he was like, what victims I did Medicaid scams. He's like, I don't have any victims. And so you're not taking responsibility.
for your actions. So he got rephased back to the beginning. Nine, I've seen maybe it was six, maybe it was six months. You can't money money on the programs nine minutes, but I've seen all the way back, but you're losing him. So I'm sorry, but yeah, it's super, super intense, intense. You're you're in you're in a unit where you're living with someone and the accountability also comes with confrontation to where every morning you get up, you have a meeting.
And they give you all of these designs. They put names on different modes of thinking. You know, I'm saying to kind of help you conceptualize what you might be doing and going through. And they also do this thing where I'm supposed to hold you accountable, where I'll stand up and I'll say, I'd like to, yeah, I'd like to address six for, um, I like to help six and you'd stand up and I go six. I noticed you were doing this wrong and this wrong. And I'm telling you that in front of the whole group.
So it's a little humiliating and embarrassing and they put you on the spot and then you have to accept what I'm saying and process it. That is a very difficult thing for a lot of people. And I'm going to tell you something like this morning, this morning when you were, when we were talking to her about her cray cray, um, yes, yes.
like if you notice she didn't dispute it. Whereas most people's normal reaction when I'm saying something about you is about them is to argue that it's not true. She didn't dispute it. She just kind of says, well, it's a nice crate. It's like you accept and I believe that that
One of the things that our depth helps you it helps you in dealing in situations and being able to be reflective and see yourself how other people see you. I believe it helps you deal with stress things that are triggers to move to it helps you deal with stress. It helps you. It's a it's a it's a behavior modification program. You have to work through books.
It teaches you what is critical thinking. Critical thinking. Absolutely, like that's 90%. That's the biggest problem is to be able to think through. Most people are reactionary. They don't think through all the steps. They react immediately. And then when suddenly they're in handcuffs, they're like, oh my God, what happened? Did you know this was happening? You attacked the guy. Yeah, but he said that it's irrelevant what he said. You had to know that the end result by attacking him was you were going to end up by handcuffs.
So, you know, it teaches you to make those that what a normal but I realize a normal person does instinctively. They don't attack somebody else immediately. They think they're like, Oh, I'm pissed and I'd like to fucking slap this. Right. But you know what's going to happen? I'm going to do that we make it I might get away with it. Now. He'll call the police that guy called police. I'm going to end up
The cops are going to show up there. They already have my name. I'm going to end up in prison. Well, I think before that they'll say it's not worth me murdering this guy. Right. Right. Because I'm angry. Did I ever tell you the like the like going to prison? I'd be okay with cracking a few people about a month and a half ago. I was in and if you guys know me, I'm absolutely nonviolent. The most laid-back person that thing a month and a half ago. I was in Costco.
And I'm in line. Did I tell you that story? We had it on the last podcast. The Costco incident? Yeah, yeah. And with Boziak.
Are we wanting to get two episodes today? Yes. Sorry. So we might need to wrap this one up. It's not a new one. All right. Cause I only because you told that you told that windows of all four of you guys. Oh yeah. When the guy hit me with the button thing, he told you move or something like he bumped me and he hit me and I looked at him and he goes move. Yeah. Yeah. And the first thing I thought was I wouldn't get a bond. It's like,
I just I wouldn't get a bond so I would have to sit in jail. That's exactly because I was about to turn that cart over and that was my first thought is like you won't get a bond.
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"text": " So you don't think he slept with the porn star. I'm saying we've got a porn star of upstanding moral values who says I'm going to say because I met you one time. I'm going to say you slept with me or you're going to pay me money. So in the middle of an election, he says fuck it pair off to get her to shut up because this is going to not this is going to hurt me any man true or not true is going to make that payment."
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"text": " You know, he's had bankruptcies or whatever that case, which is all a part of business, right? That's all a part of the influx of profit margin and things go up, things go down. Elon Musk never had a bankruptcy. Well, he's on a different brand. Elon Musk has threatened to have bankruptcy several times. Also, by the way, so Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos never had bankruptcy."
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"text": " He could say I've never had a bankruptcy. He said it many, many times and the news has actually come out and said, yes, personally, he's never had one. Do you know how many companies Jeff Bezos has founded and started that have gone under? Yes. I watched a video of him. I believe he forced those companies to go under. I think he purchased them. I understand what you believe. What I'm saying is I can, if you want, we can break out the video where he says he'll start and he's funny too when he does it. He'll name the type of the company that"
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"text": " But anyway, so he loses and the fact that the fact that he didn't admit that he lost bothers me. Okay, I mean whether you say and I think that there were issues. I think there were issues in the in the election. I think there were but either way in January 6 right was peaceful touring of the Capitol. Now you're going to tell me that there were like 10 fucking people killed in it during that whole thing. It was a peaceful touring of the Capitol."
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"text": " And Brittany and I are talking. And she was saying, do you think, do you think it's good that, that Trump is, she was concerned, I don't think he had been elected yet. He was about to, I said, Oh, I think he's going to win. She was, what do you think? I said, I think he's going to win. I think he's going to win. She was, really? I said, yeah. She was, that makes me nervous. And I said, why? And she said,"
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"text": " Well, you know, it's just being, you know, being black and she goes on and on. She's like, so it worries me. She's on I'm really feel like I'm kind of middle of the road between the two parties. And even though I've never heard her say anything other than the standard rhetoric from the left, regardless, here's what she said."
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"text": " she's concerned because it's so hard being black, and that she knows and I said, well, you know, I had mentioned I said, I want taxes to go down. I think we're taxed too much. I think that I like I wouldn't mind being taxed even more if we could get free health care or something like that. But everybody, of course, then in the comments, people are gonna scream, oh, free health care is horrible. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I understand. But I'm pretty healthy. So I'd like to go to the doctor for free. I'm not really worried about, you know, these catastrophic things, because if they happen, then whatever, I'm probably done anyway. Point is, is that"
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"text": " So, as we're talking, I mentioned taxes and she said, well, yeah, sure for you. And I was like, what do you mean? And she said, well, I mean, you're already tax less. And I went, what do you mean? She said, well, I go, what do you, what do you mean that everybody's tax the same? She said, no, she said, she's blacks are taxed higher. And I went, what? And she goes, yeah, we're taxed at a higher tax bracket. And I went,"
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"text": " Do you believe that? And she goes, Yeah. And I went, you think that if a white man makes 100,000, a black man makes 100,000, a white man pays in 25% of his, of his wages to taxes, you think that a black person is paid in more? And she said, Yeah, I can show you my mom's W2. I can show you my app, you can call my mom. I said, No, no, I'm not gonna call your mom, because your mom is obviously a person, one of the people that have told you this."
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"text": " They have you believing this, just like you thought they were going to round up your brothers and throw them in prison. This is obviously something that's going around in your circle. Do you really believe that constitutionally it's acceptable that blacks are charged? Like, is there a black tax? It's like, no, but they obviously will. Well, I don't know, but as a black person, you're taxed at a higher bracket. I said, you've got to be, you don't really believe that. I said, I feel like you need to look into that. You really need to look at that. Blacks have a different perception of stuff."
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"text": " That I think is kind of there I wanted to actually tax less because depending on your income, you know, they've got the the earned income credit and everything that's that started by Ronald Reagan. So she's probably a little bit that's all perception. So you think that if you make $100,000 and I make $100,000 both of us are w2 we both have the same we pay the same tax we say people had the same I think I don't think it's differentiated by your color."
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"text": " You know, I'm saying I just think it with everyone but that that's like one of those myths they go around tons of those myths that one's a little bit more on both sides. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that but it's the perception like blacks are perception of things and stuff and if you if you hopped in a car and drove, you know, whatever your tail lights out."
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"text": " Your perception of your tail light out is a different thing than if a black guy I hop in the car my tail lights out, right? That's the only thing I've never been the only thing on my mind is getting that tail light. You heard what he said. He's never been never been searched. And listen, I drive like a fucking maniac. I pull I've been pulled over. I told you when I was on the run. I got so many tickets as a guy I'd stolen his identity. I got so many tickets. I had to go to traffic school as him because he was going to lose his license. And when I get pulled over like I'm never concerned I'm going to get"
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"text": " Like it doesn't even enter my mind. They're going to say, step out of the vehicle. We want to because you're Caucasian, but he doesn't believe the tiny girl that black people got to get. It's the perception. It's the perception. Do you think like a president or like a leader of the country can, can change the"
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"text": " What is it? The perception that like law enforcement has of blacks. Nope. Like do you think like, yeah, like a leader can shift that because it's been, I think because it's been, I don't want to say that it's been proven. Like if I'm, if I'm an officer, max just it, it absolutely, the perception of white people to the police as a perception of black people to police has absolutely been proven."
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"text": " It was so I can go extreme in both ways. It was extreme enough that Roger Goodell, when George Floyd was killed, immediately got on there and said, you know what? Black people do get treated differently by the police because that's how extreme it is."
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"text": " That he saw that, but it's just a natural reaction because when I was a teenager, I was out with a white girl, which is hard to believe. No, just kidding. And I was living in a very nice apartment called Lookout Point. And when I pulled in, the police pulled up and was, hey boy, do you live here? Blah, blah, blah. And the white girl I was with, her name was Kristen, was going bananas."
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"text": " Right. So they've already got me in cuffs and she's screaming. Oh, y'all are doing that because he's black blah blah blah. So the cop looks at me and goes, looks like you understand what's going on. I'm going to give you a few minutes to kind of explain it to her. Wow. And like that was my cue to say, bitch, if you don't calm down, they're going to kill me. You're going to be you have every you have every right to be upset, but I'm going to be on your time."
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"text": " My life is in your hands. I have a question. What do you think is going to be horrible about Trump being president? For me or for everyone? For you, well, I can say first, what always kills me is that prior to him, the election,"
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"text": " the couple weeks beforehand, I noticed all the rhetoric from the left was, this is an absolute threat to democracy. If he wins, we may never have another election. I fear that. Okay. So, um, after the election, you know what they were talking about? We need to regroup so that during the next election, we can win and learn what we did wrong. That's true. What next election?"
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"text": " you spent weeks beforehand saying there will be no more elections true so what makes you think that you should even try there's not going to be one like they were saying anything they had to say to get Kamala in there and in the moment it flipped like that's how stupid the American public are we could lie to you right up to the day of the election and the day after the election we can say okay next year what do you mean or next election"
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"text": " Yesterday, you said there will never be another election if he's elected. He was an absolute threat to democracy. So I'm wondering, so what do you think the horrible thing that he's going to do during the next four years is? I think the, like you said, I think the economy is going to crash. It's crashing anyway. You don't think it's going to crash anyway? I didn't. I didn't think it was going to crash anyway, but I think it absolutely is with the tariffs."
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"text": " I for me, the benefit for Trump for me is he handled one of my biggest addictions. I no longer watch the news. I was absolutely addicted to the news. I spent every waking hour with the news on my TV. I no longer watch the news period because I'm just like, okay, I'm done."
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"text": " Like I don't even want to hear because as you say there's so many facts and lies it's hard to differentiate and they did say that and now they're like we're gonna regroup in four years from now because I guess that's the hope that they're looking forward to and we hope that there's an election four years from now. I just hope TikTok isn't banned. That's the only thing that matters to me. Isn't it the 20th is supposed to go down?"
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"text": " I mean, here's what the problem is, is that is that Trump is a fan of TikTok. Yes. So there's a chance that that first of all, it doesn't have to go down at all. Okay. And TikTok's big everywhere. So we're not even know how to keep us from logging into it. Oh, yeah, they can. Yeah, they can shut it down that if you're coming from them, they'll they'll know what your"
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"text": " The IP addresses in the United States IP addresses, just like the guy that started in Canada that they immediately knew. Oh, no, that's a Canadian IP address. Yeah, we can't get paid on that account because it was created in Canada. Oh, wow. So what I think what here's the whole thing. It doesn't have to be shut down. The Chinese just have to release their"
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"text": " They're controlling or their interest in it like they can just sell it to an American company or any other company a European anybody like they can figure out how to keep it up and they claim that it's it's doing something with data like what what data their fear is that they're they're gathering data on Americans and using it to their advantage, you know, like like."
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"text": " Is that true or not? I don't know, but I haven't seen the data. So I'm not in Congress. I haven't I haven't been a part of these committees. I don't know what it is. But it's enough that they got a bill to pass right or wrong, whatever. So one, we hope that it stays open. And I also hope that all the politics and all the interest in politics dies down over the next few months, because our last two months, it's crushed us. Yeah, it's big reason why we're doing this topic now. Because when the election happened,"
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"text": " All the stuff that was people were watching on YouTube were just election election. So like our interviews, they didn't perform as well because even me who's someone who like very rarely cares or anything about politics."
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"text": " I was listening to political videos just to see what people had to say. Right. Even I was. I'm consuming politics like all the time, and it's like— That's all I consume. Right. And I've cut back, and that's all I consume. So if somebody was going 50-50 watching podcasts and then political podcasts and then maybe True Crime or something else, now it shifted to 100% politics. So our numbers, we had videos we put out that should have gotten 100,000, 200,000 views, and they got 50, 40."
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"text": " Wow. I mean, it was the same thing with this week right now, like the holidays, like this last week was a pretty low week be just because most people just aren't on their phones. You know, they're traveling Christmas. It's like, you're not reaching the full potential. So that's kind of where like,"
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"text": " What is the buzz going to be around January 20th? Like are people going to be clicking on political videos? Like that's why this video right now, it'll be titled like Trump's America or something like that. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's wow. That's kind of impressive. I didn't even know that. Listen to Christmas day."
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"text": " Our lowest day, maybe of the year. Yeah, the year. Yeah. All these people with their families disgusting at least put on one of our videos like last year we had Christmas or holidays in prison. We didn't have that episode. Yeah, we had a holiday. Yeah, I was thinking about that the other week. I'm like, how can we didn't do"
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"text": " You can't redo holiday in prison, I guess. What was that? We just talked about, yeah, we talked about what it's like to be in prison during Christmas. Christmas meals, Christmas, you didn't know Christmas bags, but you know, and I thought I thought state so I thought they gave you several Christmas. Did they give you Christmas bags? Yeah, really? I always feel like they wouldn't do that. Yeah. Yeah, we had what was normally in them. Listen to people. I talked to a jail said they were they were small. We got Salvation Army kind of this little Salvation Army package."
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"text": " Socks. Oh, shampoos. I remember we got Shampoo conditioners socks. They got like decent like we got like some potato chips. Yeah, and some cookie. It wasn't it wasn't food. Oh, yeah, because you know, they were selling it"
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"text": " So everyone assumed that they went in the bag and took some stuff out. The rhetoric behind it had me laughing. Everyone was complaining. They didn't give a shit. This is the smallest bag I've ever seen. They said that every year. This is worse than last year. They said the bags actually fit inside the slot. They could slide it to them in the slot in the door."
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"text": " and by the way they used to go when you would go into they would tell them bring your Tupperware because you could buy Tupperware bring your Tupperware when they went to the Christmas dinner or Christmas or sorry the holiday meal they would have them they would give them food and then they would give them extra food to put their Tupperware and then they would go back to the unit with the food"
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"text": " Wow, that didn't happen when I when I got there then that was happening. Yeah, it was it's been downward for feds. It's been downward trend. I'm telling you they were all going off. One guy told me that he ate the whole bag on the way back from picking. I thought that was the trend of all jails all prisons like they're trimming down trimming down when I first first started doing my time like the"
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"text": " Commissary limits were different. The items were different bags were bigger cheaper soups were you could get five for a buck. Now. It's a dollar per soup, which is hard to believe. That's insane. Oh, yeah, our soup a dollar soup $30 for 30 soups. You should be able to get three soups for a dollar. Yep. When we first started. Yeah, it was it was or you get like two soups a dollar from the fucking store, man."
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"text": " Have any of you guys been locked up with anybody who's like been in international prisons that are like way better than the states? I have. The private prisons, he said? No, no, like international, like someone in Norway. Oh yeah, I've met people there. Every person that I've run across, they're like, oh, this is a hotel. Yeah, I was going to say most of them though, most of the ones I've been to are the prisons in the other countries are horrible or like you have no idea. Now I've also met guys that have been in like Spain,"
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"text": " Yes, like in Spain, they actually have you actually get a country club. Yeah, well and you get like like alcohol. I want to say and I could be wrong somebody right in prison. They're actually you get so much alcohol like a day like you get like a thing like boom a day you get medically."
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"text": " I don't know why, but it was maybe, I don't know if it's wine or some kind of alcohol. I was like, there's, there was all kinds of things. You could have your watch. You could have like these guys had all kinds of stuff. It was like, well, same in like Mexico prison is you're just behind the wall. You can have everything shipped in like people's family can bring you in food, alcohol, whatever. If you have money, you can have your own cell. You can have all kinds of, but if you don't have money,"
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"text": " Yeah, you're living in like buildings, like there's no cells where they walk through. You're just behind that wall. So it's like, yeah, y'all figure it out. You can sleep wherever and whatever. And y'all figure it out. Y'all police yourselves. Let us know if anybody's dead. We'll come get the body. So what else do you think? What else are you? What is your other concern other than the economy with Trump?"
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"text": " And what's his name from South Korea, North Korea? Kim. Kim Jong-un. Yes. And somehow I think they have control and influence over him. And I think some of our secrets he'd be giving to them. So I just, I don't know. I mean, that's how I feel. I think the exact opposite because he's so patriotic. He's so American-centric. Yeah, I think he's concerned about you. You don't think he praises Putin?"
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"text": " Yeah, I think and I can see that I can see him but then again, I can see praising someone but drawing a hard line. I think he respects him. I don't see a hard line. He's a powerful alpha male. I just don't think there's that respect there because he's this leader of this country. I also am a leader of a country in that narcissistic type of thing. Yes. So I think that there's that respect."
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"text": " I don't believe it's respect as a human being, as a narcissist, as a male. I think somewhere, in some line, he's subservient. I don't think they're equal. I really believe Trump thinks he's beneath him. But what way do you see that? Well, because he praises Putin and Putin doesn't praise him. Putin kind of like, I would prefer to have him."
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"text": " You know, and we work better together or Putin's the style of their government in the style of what they do, that he's not going to openly, you know, praise him like that. But when, when because they're always together, so they always interact. I do think that there's this mutual. So when our intelligence was telling him that it was Russia that was spying and he said, well, I don't see no reason why it would be."
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"text": " And then he kind of came back and said, well, you know, it's just like, I don't believe our intelligence agencies over Putin. I think Putin would not lie to me. You know, I think it's in with the type of person that Trump is very skeptical. Well, that when they say and he's like, but this is a good guy. You know, you don't just because it's Russia, Mother Russia. Well, you know, and see, that's the fear. I have a Putin Putin is the kind of guy that"
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"text": " I'm not going to kill you, somebody else is. I like that. I think that Trump's going to go in there and I think he's going to negotiate some kind of an agreement like, hey, you guys need to cut the war. Well, I think he's going to give Ukraine to Putin. I don't think he's going to give all of Ukraine, but I think he's going to keep a portion."
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"text": " I think that's all he wants is a portion. I think you wanted the whole thing. I think he'd have taken the whole thing. They drove all the way into Kiev. So they've been fighting all the way into Kiev, but one like the first day he went straight for Kiev. So he was going to take only only because he wanted like, hey, look, I'm going to take what I want. You got to sit down. And he's like, no, as of right now, he hasn't got it. The United States just dumping tons of money into this war. Like that kills me. Like we're going to give all this money to you guys to fight this war."
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"text": " To me, I think that's just stupid. I'd rather just we'll just in the United States. Well, then we'll be at war with Russia. Well, then we're at war with Russia. I don't have a fucking problem with finance. You think Trump's gonna go to war with Russia? No, I don't because I think Trump is like, look, we have our own problems. We have an economy that's failing. We need to go we you guys need to fix this and you have to fix it because we're going to cut the money off. So you guys will draw this line. And if you if you draw that line, we'll make sure it's maintained."
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"text": " If you pass the line, we're just going to send American troops in. And then it's going to be so bad because the truth is, is that if North Carolina and South Carolina's National Guard could take out fucking the Soviet or could take out the Soviet Army. Right. It's horrible. I'm glad that got exposed. Right. Now it's garbage. It's probably China in the 80s."
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"text": " The so, you know, I think that that I think he's going to fix that. I think he's going to think that's fixing. So invading another country is not the optimal. So the optimal solution is Russia withdrawals back into Russia. Ukraine gets Ukraine and Russia pays them some kind of some kind of reparations. That's the optimal solution. That's not happening. So the other option is we stop the fighting because we're not sending you any more money because we should be paying"
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"text": " With all that money, we could have health care. Like, what are we doing? Like, we're not getting any more money. We're definitely not getting health. We're not getting health care. I know that that bothers me. But I'm saying, why are we going to send all of this money? And look, I think Russia's wrong. You don't get to invade other countries. But he has invaded, like, there's never any perfect solution. So the, well, I mean, let's say the best solution that probably the best result that ever probably occurred"
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"text": " Ever was World War Two. Everybody got together and fought Hitler all the way back to extinction. And then we split their country up. That sounds fair to me. That sounds fair. We have a nowhere own country. Fuck you. You guys keep starting wars. Go fuck yourself. We're splitting your country up. That's the optimal optimal solution. The problem is it happened to the Soviet Union. And that's what Putin is trying to undo. No, no, that didn't happen. These well these countries broke off."
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"text": " And they allowed them to break off and they started their own. That was per striker. They allow these countries to become. First of all, Soviet Union gobbled these countries up. Correct. And then finally, when the Soviet Union collapse, they broke off and become their own countries again. Putin's trying to rebuild the Russian Empire, the USSR. Yeah, not the Russian, not the SSR. He's trying to the former this the Russian Empire, which is prior to the Soviet Union there. He's trying to take back"
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"text": " Be the gyms of Europe. He doesn't want the isn't want like, um, uh, jica stand as some country. That's that's fucking bankrupt. And he's not interested. He wants the jewels. There's there's oil. There's a nuclear nuclear plant, right? He wants. That's what I want. These are the things that I want that I can exploit and hold everybody's in the world's nuts because I got their power, their oil. Here's the problem. The problem is, is that"
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"text": " The other European countries aren't holding their weight. So it's like all of us get together. Well, they don't have the resources. They do have the resources. We don't have the resources. You have any idea what the national debt is? It's fucking outrageous. It's blowing up. But our money is getting worth less and less every single day. But our commercial value. Yes. Thank you. Our commercial of what we buy and purchase is more it's like"
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"text": " By us being in debt is what's fueling the rest of the world. By us being the one to go, hey, we'll just make money out of nothing. And that's the premise of the United States. Debt generates income. Yes. So even in... That's what we're living in. Even in our recessive times, the income, the commercial beast that the United States is, we will never go"
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"text": " Belly up there's so many different they'll drop us up tied. Yeah, but you find all of that is what's causing inflation. Somebody just somebody right with the jet that generates the income like we could the United States as a commercial these other countries are the ones who are buying up our debt. It's all inflated. You can't just print money, but there are we doing that in we're printing money. Yeah, you're just printing money. That's what you can't just do it. No, because eventually it collapses."
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"text": " We don't produce anything. We're not producing anything. We do oil now."
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"text": " Well, that's not we're producing, we're pumping it out of the ground. That's you think oil is enough to sustain the entire United States? No, we don't manufacture anything is what I'm saying. So what I'm saying is we manufacture food, you're right. So we're not going to go well, we may go hungry, but we're not going hungry right now. But the point is, is like you put in these tariffs to other countries. And you say, Hey, guess what, in China, we're putting in tariffs, and you can build those cars,"
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"text": " in the United States and sell in the United States, or you ship them over here, then you have to pay higher prices. So what happens, or tariffs. So what happens is manufacturers here start building because now guess what, it's not worth it to buy from the Chinese. So you start your own manufacturing and you become a manufacturing hub. We were the manufacturing hub in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Until they figured out how to make it cheaper. Yeah, they're paying"
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"text": " employees in India a buck an hour. We just saw it on the video. Right. And what I'm saying is you put tariffs on look, it's going to hurt the other countries more than it's going to initially hurt us. But one thing Verizon, the best 5g network is expensive. Think again, bring in your AT&T or T-Mobile bill to a Verizon store"
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"text": " Workers again that are making 50 bucks an hour $60 an hour like these guys that work in these factories now don't make that they can't Okay, you're right so the 12,000 workers that work now I'm talking about the 400,000 workers that all those jobs went over or the million workers that went to China and that those of those jobs wouldn't be able to afford bringing those jobs here and"
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"text": " Because the cost of running a huge Nike factory over there has to be the difference. Do you have any idea how much profit there is in Nike? You're right. They're making them over there for $4.50. But you want to shave down profit margins for patriotism. For patriotism, yes. I want to have jobs in America. I think you worry about American. But your heart"
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"text": " And the financial prowess of this country is two different things. Like if I'm a business owner, and I'm as American as the next, and I love this country and its opportunities, but if I had a business, if I'm starting a business, I'm already thinking about India, Africa, wherever the labor's cheap. Right, so will you put tariffs on those?"
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"text": " Right. And so the person who's buying it just pays the tariff. So you're saying, look, I manufactured this shoe. It cost me $2 to manufacture it. And then I sell it in America for $10. I make an $8 profit. Right. You're going, I'm going to put a tariff on that of $10. Okay. So now I sell it for $20 and make an $8 profit. So two things happen. One,"
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"text": " The fact that those shoes aren't made here right are because it's too is because they sell them. They make them cheaper over there. Now there's a tariff. So now we can make them there. We can make them here now for the same price. So they lose those jobs and we get those jobs. It takes a little bit to build up the manufacturing, but we get those jobs. Why would you put those restrictions and also by the way, by the way, he's saying now they can make it here because we get to hire American workers to do it."
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"text": " And I'm saying that one, those companies that are buying from China, those tariffs, by the way, those tariffs that people are paying, if they say, no, fuck that, we're going to keep those jobs in China, and we'll just pass those tariffs on, those fees on to the American public, well, the government gets that money. So that helps. The two, if they keep them there, maybe you don't buy those products there anymore."
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"text": " And three, or maybe they say, you know what, let's go ahead and manufacture it here. And we won't take as much. We won't have as much of a profit margin here because people aren't going to spend that extra money. They're not going to spend $200 for a pair of Nikes when they were buying them from China. If you want to break out the actual dollar amount of $500 or $1000 or whatever, we can do that. But in the end, if you double the prices, the demand goes down. So people don't buy as many. That's just the facts."
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"text": " So what did I do to the economy? What does it do the economy? So we're going to do the tariff is going to double the prices. The demand goes down. What does that do to the economy? Well, it if if to make those if it was 100,000 employees in China. Selling 100,000 shoes. And they put tariffs on them and we say, you know what we're going to do. We're going to go ahead and manufacture those here. OK, and we're going to double the price."
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"text": " And so what does it do? Let's say it cuts the demand in half. We still got a, we still got 50,000 new jobs in America. That's what it did. Is the demand less? Yes, but we got 50,000. We didn't have this process there. That transition is a process. Maybe it's six months. Maybe it's a year, but in a year, guess what? What? How long do you think it takes to set up a in the mean? All right. So I want to talk about in the meantime, so let's just say a year."
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"text": " In the meantime, what does that do to the economy? So for six months, I don't get new Nike. Oh my God. I don't get a new iPhone that they're making for $30 and selling for a thousand. What is the percentage you think foreign-made goods or parts in goods? Tons, but he's not talking about putting tariffs on everybody."
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"text": " Just talking about China. He's threatening, threatening Canada. He's threatening of it. He hasn't put tariffs on anybody. He's not even president. He's threatening. And just by the threat alone and knowing he's crazy enough to do it, you know what happens? They go, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Let's talk about this. Let's renegotiate NAFTA. Let's renegotiate these types of deals that weren't. But what's the renegotiation? The end goal is more jobs in America and less jobs overseas."
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"text": " The end goal is more jobs in America. I don't care about overseas. Alright, so more jobs in America, less jobs overseas. So the negotiation would be higher prices. Temporarily, higher prices. Period. It costs more to manufacture. Let's assume that these companies, do you know how much profit do you think is on an iPhone?"
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"text": " I mean, in what aspect? 80% of the cost of the phone? The equipment? How much what their price point is? Do they make, if an iPhone cost $800, do they charge $1,000? No, I think they profit 80%. Yeah, I think they profit like $900. It's 100% profit."
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"text": " So if the iPhone costs them by the time they ship it over here, they build it, they ship it over and it's 400 500 bucks. You know what they sell it for a thousand. They double it. You know business. Yeah, I understand. But you know what else is business is that if you want to make money on volume instead of just jacking your prices up, then you don't make a hundred percent profit like most companies don't most companies like you do. It's a better phone than an iPhone."
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"text": " Most of them. Yeah, but they don't have 100% profit. So you know what I want phone would do is they drop their profit a little bit you drop your profit a little bit and let's say you say oh you don't okay well then guess what then let's say you sell 50% less iPhones. That's I'm okay with 50% off. I've still got mine. I don't buy a new one every year. This is a fucking this is like a no this is no it's not even it's like a 12 or something. That's a 13. Is it? Yes."
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"text": " What are they at now? 16. Yeah, I don't have a 16. This thing's great. Yeah, I have an 11 and a 13. This thing's great. I think I have 11. I think I have the same phone as yours. So it sounds to me, and you get 50,000 more jobs. But what you're saying is starting to become less American. It's more restrictions. You're concerned. But you're putting restrictions on me as a business."
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"text": " What if I want to take my business and take it over there? Take it over there. But if you build the manufacturing over there and you don't hire, you're telling me you think it's American to hire Chinese to sell to Americans? It's capitalism. I think you can still do that. You can do that. Because it's my business. You could do that. We're just going to put tariffs on it. Okay. And that's fine. So what I'm saying is,"
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"text": " More jobs means that people more jobs in America mean that more Americans have money to buy things in America manufactured by Americans. That's what it means. So I don't see how that's on American. I would say more manufacturing jobs more manufacturing because that's everything if you record unemployment right now, we're at a low economy was doing great."
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"text": " You just told me the economy is great. As I said, we had a record unemployment. Low unemployment is low. It's going up. It's listen prices when the housing when the housing bubble a lot. So you're saying more manufacturing jobs is what you're saying. Yes, necessarily more jobs just more manufacturing jobs. That's what you're saying. I'm saying more jobs in general. I think more manufacturing jobs produces more jobs pretty much everywhere."
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"text": " Well, true, but if you're at a record unemployment right now, you know, I'm saying if you had a low unemployment right now, we're also just printing money. Correct. That's not I don't understand that you don't understand. You can't just keep printing money. You just can't. I understand that's that's what happened. That's what happened in, you know, after World War one in Germany. I mean, that's practically what started the second World War is that they just got to a point where they couldn't"
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"text": " They weren't able to pay their bills, so they just started printing money, and it worked great for a while. And then eventually the money, the hyperinflation, the money became worth nothing. They're not America. So, I mean, we operated. We've been operating. We've been doing this since"
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"text": " The inception of the United States. No, no, no, because before we had gold, we had gold in Fort Knox. We were on the gold standard until Nixon. Yeah. And then Nixon, this is the seventies, which is like, which was fucking stupid, but whatever. That's, I mean, it's, it's the kind of to go off of, and then they just, we sold the gold by the way, but it's the kind of go off of the fact that we are the heartbeat"
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"text": " That fuels the pumps, the blood of economy through the entire world or a majority of the world, right? You know, and other countries operate like even states don't have that. They have to make them balance their budget. Other countries operate within the limits of what they can produce and sell. But the fact that we are there, one of their main exports, right? We are the heartbeat of them. Your proposal is"
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"text": " We're going to stop being the heartbeat of the world, and we're going to make sure we pump and do this all for ourselves, and we're going to kind of remove the jobs from the rest of you guys. But we owe debt. To stay on top. Right. Because right now, all these other countries, their economies, you're like, oh, India's economy is great. Right. At our expense. China's economy is great at our expense. Yes. Right. Fuck China. Fuck India. The debt that we owe will probably prevent us from saying,"
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"text": " Sure, by us doing this, we're laying off tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in your country. You don't elect a president to look out for China."
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"text": " No, unless you it's biting, but he's concerned about everybody else is everybody else except for the American citizens. That's what I'm concerned about American citizens. And I'm telling you the way it's working now is working you. You can't change tariffs is not going to change our dependency on these other countries for parts food and products there. It will eventually it will it's never going to be 100% with two things."
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"text": " that worries me about that. The two things. First of all, the impact on other countries and the fact that we owe them other countries like China. China buys most of our debt and in turn we buy most of our products from them. But second thing is you're exporting a lot of the labor that would be running these manufacturing plants. Mexicans and illegal immigrants"
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"text": " A majority now I'm not going to say that none of them are criminals because some of them are transporting drugs in and that's a whole different story and they're drug dealers. They put down drug dealers, but our insatiable appetite for drugs is what makes us so profitable. The one thing you're talking about on tariff wise is doesn't even include the frigging our"
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"text": " Our consumption of dope, but well, I mean, I think I think that that drug should be legalized. Oh, no, I don't think that'd be horrible. We just legalize. Yeah, you're not smoking a joint and being like, well, let's go rob a bank. Well, wait a minute. I think so. Opiates, right? They were legalized, right?"
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"text": " But right now you can you can get opiates people get them anyway, like they're getting a prescription and right, but people buy them anyway. They can buy them anyway. What I'm saying is is it look you could go with this you could go with the model of hey, let's do this. Let's go ahead and reduce the population the incarcerated population by half. Let's put these guys up. I didn't deserve 26 years. You could have given me five or six years or 10 years and I would have done"
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"text": " Two or three years and been out and gone to a halfway house, put me on a monitor. That means that they were willing to spend about $500,000, $600,000 on me. $500,000 to incarcerate me."
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"text": " That wasn't going to help help society. So so you give me so if you reduce that population and you say look, you know what we're going to do, we're going to take Zach and we're going to put him on ankle monitor. We're going to send him home. Yep, you can go get a job. He's got to pay $100 a month for the for the monitoring of the ankle thing is that or is that you want to stay in prison for another 10 years? No, I'd rather do that. Of course. So he goes out so you can easily reduce the prison population by half. But guess what? There's still that money. So we take that money and we go ahead and we we take that money and you dump that into education."
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"text": " Then you go ahead and you tax you, you make drugs, maybe not necessarily legal. You like a medical marijuana or whatever you want to do that where they can buy some kind of opiate or something, you know, some types of drugs, right? Like a lot of these drugs are, they have been legal at times, right? What about, shoot, you used to be able to buy, what are they mothers little helpers? They would, it was basically speed. Like most countries, a lot of countries, you could buy speed, like make these things available."
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"text": " And then the money that that generates, take a portion of that money and put it into free rehabs. If you have a problem, we'll put you in free rehab for 30 days, maybe 60, maybe 90. They're not going to go. Okay, well, they're going to, here's the thing. They are going to go if they want to get off. They really want to get off. They don't want to get off. Right, exactly. But here's the whole thing. Drugs are free. No, no, not free. I didn't say free. What I'm saying is that make them available, make them cheap."
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"text": " Make them cheap and safe. Like right now, what is it? Finny has been prescribed and been used for decades."
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"text": " It's safe. It's killing everybody. It is killing everybody because of what they're doing with it. They're not cutting it. They're sticking into all these different types. They will abuse. Every single addict will abuse it. If you make it free and readily available, they're not free, but if now they can go to the corner store or whatever and purchase it, their tolerance is going to build up on this good, clean, safe drug. And then they'll be abusing that and they'll be overdosing over whatever they can get. Right. Well, it's not like we're losing patriots here."
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"text": " They had an opportunity if they wanted to get off. Some people, no offense, some people just, that's how they want to live their life. Now, they might say, well, I'm hooked on drugs. Great, we can send you this rehab. Well, they go, they drop out in three days or a week or whatever. If you have quality rehabs they can go to and they just don't want you. Some people simply"
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"text": " want to be drug addicts. That's all they want to do. You do know statistically, Matt, that white people are more on drugs than blacks. I don't have a problem with that. Okay. And I'm saying give my people someplace to go for free so they can get off it. And you know what, if they don't want to get off it and they want to end up overdosing or be a professional dopehead,"
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"text": " That's fine, because probably they're going to get it so cheap. They don't have a Rob to do it. They could probably get some kind of manual labor job. Let's face it. Most drywallers painters roofers are on some kind of drug, alcohol, some kind of dope. Yes, you can drywall a house and lay carpet and put roofs on on crank and beyond you and beyond math."
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"text": " So only this time you don't have to pay a ton with it and it's safe. It's measured and it's safe and you could be a functional out Attic and if it's someday you want to get clean. We have a place for you to get clean and you don't have to spend a whole bunch of time in prison because it doesn't help you. I don't like that. That's it. That's it. That's the reason I don't I don't like how Amsterdam looks. No."
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"text": " Visually, yeah, I've been free not free. It's beautiful like you can line up in front of another beautiful, but people have a problem and That addiction shouldn't be capitalized on we monetize what you're saying You're saying they have a problem arrest them and throw them in prison, but you're not saying give them because they're committing crimes What I'm saying it you're saying but there's they don't give an opportunity to go to a 60-day rehab"
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"text": " But they do all the time they but they literally they go out the dorm after dorm will cats get coming in go out come in go out and when they come in up you got a drug charge drug program, you know, they go in the drug program. They clean up they gain weight. They slick back the hair. They look fantastic. They leave and they give the drugs something to eat on because they gain weight in such as they're good and clean until they can get ahead. So what you're saying right now what I'm hearing is that the system right now is not working."
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"text": " It's not working because they focus, they focus on the, they focus on the seller of the, so there basically is let's punish the people who are providing the drugs, right? And which, which is usually marginalized communities because what happens is they give the drugs to the marginalized. The, the, the, the, the, the line to the streets is through the marginalized communities because if you notice they want help for people on Finney,"
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"text": " They went after the big prescription drug companies over the people who were on opioids and addicted to opioids. Yeah, like so they're like, well, let's just punish the people who are providing it to them. I mean, for a brief moment, they were arresting doctors. Yeah, they were profiting. That was a huge thing. For a brief moment. You have a great ability at pointing out what the problem is."
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"text": " What's the solution? The solution definitely isn't going to be to from the trickle down up. It's not like let's provide help for such and such because the fact that a matter is the fact is when you go on in Tampa in Nebraska, all the shelters and stuff have beds available and some of the you know, the cove and all like these drug programs, although you have to get on the waiting list and all that those places are available. It's the want and just because like, okay, I'm addicted to a drug."
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"text": " That doesn't make you go rob or do this or do that. Okay, once again, but what's the solution? It would be legalizing drugs because they've legalized marijuana and made it a multi-billion dollar industry. Right, but that's not something that Six is in favor of. Well, I mean, people are profiting off of people's addiction. His answer leads to the legalization."
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"text": " They've proven that marijuana is a non addictive, not physically addictive. I know plenty of people who literally smoke all day long because they enjoy it. Right. They enjoy that. I know guys that do counter that they just like the smell of it. I so I mean, I smoke but like right now, now that which I'm not thinking, damn, actually, I am thinking, yeah, after this argument, but yeah, I'm not thinking like, okay, we got, you know, it's not physically addictive like that."
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"text": " Yeah, okay, I said physically addictive, but mentally it's addictive. You're constantly you enjoy it, right? So I love to ride a motorcycle. I'm always thinking about it, but I'm not like, you know, what's what is so you say there's some drugs you'd be okay with with legalizing or is it just just it's just I like how it is now like don't legalize and sell brown."
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"text": " They do legalize and so opioids are well, you know what I mean? Like let's not have like cure leaf, you know, let's not have Dope Dash and you can you know, which I mean it makes a lot of sense I hear where you're coming from that that would be a huge influx of taxable monies, but you're profiting off of the blood of children."
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"text": " You're profiting off of who's profiting off it now who the dealers the immoral guys that are so what I'm saying is let's go ahead and let Pfizer and the the other companies manufacturer you can get yourself a little bottle and you can take a little pill and it's measured and it's cheap and it's inexpensive and they're taxed"
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"text": " Let's make it safe. If you can't beat them, join them. I am. We'll become dope dealers, but we'll give you better dope, cheaper. True. And we can tax it. Absolutely true. And fix the roads. Absolutely true. We can tax it, and possibly. Because we can't beat you. And we can give you a safe drug rehab to go to if you want to change. I'm not saying you have to, but if you want to. And I don't mean, by the way, when they send you to a drug program in the state, they are garbage. They look like garbage. I'm talking about"
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"text": " You're I'm talking about a nice clean facility you get your you get your latte in between class run by professionals like a decent place like I don't see that as a solution. I just know there's no good answer. We're going to profit off. There's no good answer. We can't fix. Did you ever see the movie Argo? I know exactly what you're talking about. I didn't see it."
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"text": " He says, here's the plan we think we should go with. And the director says, so you think this is a good plan? He says, No, no. There are no good plans. There's nothing but bad plans. But this is the best bad plan you have. Yes, out of all the bad plans, this is the best bad plan we have. There are no solutions."
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"text": " I mean, they're obviously there would be a shift in but you know, I can buy I can buy I can buy cart ice on the street or $100 or I can buy the same amount for $30. It's never cheaper. The Curly that they sell and you go into and they've got seven different strands 20 different shank is the same various as Tyrone very expensive. And then when you want the good stuff, it's"
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"text": " I don't want my country to look like we're all legalized. I'm not talking about the perks and all of that. That's pharmaceutical stuff. I'm talking about pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine, pharmaceutical grade Brown, which by the way, all of these are all of these are like like oxys and you know, these are all of it. There's a difference between selling drugs, but they're already giving for a medical purpose."
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"text": " So or I would break it in half, you know, like if I had to go in front in public, I would take one because I was going to be around 400 people and I got very anxious. So I would take it. So I didn't abuse it. But I'm saying that medical line has is constantly moving on what's medically necessary and what's not necessary. What I'm saying is, and I don't even think that a doctor should be prescribing. I think you can go to like a head shop."
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"text": " Is it immoral? I don't think it's any more moral than what's happening right now. I think taking some drug addict that's buying and selling or even selling just to get enough money to feed his habit and you send him to jail for 15 years because he brought a 22 that doesn't even work to sell a $15 crock and you send him to prison for 15 years? Is that immoral? Yeah, I do think."
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"text": " I believe you in that. I'm with you. And I'm even with you with the, you know, legalize, get the tax, the money. I see exactly where you're coming from. I just think it's a bad solution. But that's what he's saying. It's the... There's no good solution. It's lesser of the bad. Because, like, there's no stopping it. And could you imagine what you could do with the DEA? The DEA who?"
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"text": " We don't even need you can take that you can take those 12,000. I don't know how many by the way somebody is going to fact I think I think they all they you take that once but you take that 12,000 man arm person army agents and you just say, we're done with you. You guys we don't need you anymore. I love Trump's thing where he said the alcohol tobacco and fire atf he's like he was I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he said isn't alcohol legal?"
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"text": " Aren't firearms legal? Isn't tobacco legal? Why do we have an ATF? They enforce abuses of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. No, they don't. It's a police force. It's not like they're going. It's not like they're going to"
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"text": " All of the like if you want to have them go to the gun stores and check records. Okay, but they're not they're setting up stings. They're doing undercover. I don't need you to do undercover missions. We don't need you to do all that. I need you to go to make sure that these guys are getting the right proper proper verification when someone applies to buy a gun. I need someone to the police by the way, if you get pulled over and you're you're a convicted felon in charge of a firearm. Guess what? That's a local crime."
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"text": " 18 19 years old he lives at home doesn't have a job and they said listen we know where there's a and this is a ci we know where there's a drug house and there's a hundred thousand dollars in cash there and a couple pounds of marijuana whatever everybody did it this is reverse john john gordon john gordon yeah but john gordon shot the guy so here's what happened yeah the kid uh um so the get the kid he's on the couch his buddies are telling him like yeah yeah yeah man all we're gonna do is"
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"text": " And there's a couple of guys. So the kid says, okay, he's like, Listen, though, well, no, I think yours is wrong. Because they one of the things they did to the kid was they said, we need you to bring god, a gun and an ID that I'm sorry, a badge that says you're a cop. And he says, Well, I don't know where I can get a gun or a badge. And he says, bro, he said, you, you got to get a gun and badge. He's like, Okay, well, my my grandfather has a gun. I can probably go to his house. He has a gun."
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"text": " So he gets the gun. He gets the gun from his grandfather. By the way, it's like a 1910 Colt revolver that doesn't have a pen. It doesn't work. Kid gets the gun. He's like, I got a gun. He's like, Okay, he's like, I don't think it works. He's like, well, we don't need it to work. Because they don't need it. It could be plastic for all we care. They get in the car. He says, Did you get the badge? The guy kid goes, I don't have a badge."
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"text": " And he says, it's okay, I brought one for you. He takes it, clip it on your bed, he clips it on his belt. They get to the fucking place. They go into the they jump out and they start heading to the door to kick the door in and ATF. Get on the ground, get on the ground, get on the ground. Do you know why they had him bring a gun?"
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"text": " So it's an arm robbery. It's an arm robbery. It's an enhancement. Why do they have him bring the badge? It's an enhancement. You get a minimum man story. So he ends up getting he you can go to prison. You can go to trial and get yourself 20 years or you can plead guilty and get 10. That's the case and the gun doesn't even work by the way, but that doesn't matter. They don't care about that. So the point is is that that's the case that the guy actually like fought the case all the way to the Supreme Court and got the whole thing overturned because they went from"
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"text": " In one, the first year they started doing it, it was 500 reverse stings. It went from 500 to like 1500 to 3500 to 8500. In like four years, it went that because it was working so good. Yeah, setting people up works well. And so eventually they said, okay, we're going to reverse our book because we're being told that we're"
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"text": " We're setting these guys up and it's entrapment. In one case, the judge threw it out and the prosecutor lost it. Like you're right. That was a huge problem. What I'm saying is why do we, do you understand what they were doing? Is ruining kids, black kids entrapment. You got a good for you, bro. You got a 19 year old kid who's never had a job who lives at his at his parents house broke and you promised him he was going to get"
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"text": " He was going to get one third of $100,000 and all he had to do was come with you with his broken gun. Wow, man, you got him 10 years in prison, right? You got 10 years and 10 years in prison at $30,000 as $300,000 for you to get this kid who's playing video games on his mom's couch off the his mom might have been like, okay, well, that's gonna save me a little bit of money, you know, on him going there, but she still got to go visit them the whole time and put money on his books. The point is, is that you're gonna spend $300,000."
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"text": " to set up a kid that was never going to do a fucking thing. And they and that those dudes, he's not a 10 year criminal. No, he's not a criminal. He's just some idiot."
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"text": " You're patting yourself. He couldn't even fill out an application to get a job. You're patting yourself on the back. You were so proud of yourself. He's a real criminal. What took one off the streets? And they were so proud of themselves. They got rid of the 500 to 8,500 in four years. They got rid of the entrap. The feds got rid of the entrap. I've helped about, when I was in jail for legal work, I helped about five people. And when they would tell me the story, I go, this is strangely familiar. All of them are identical to that."
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"text": " But a couple people I help there are situations where they actually shoot at those kids. Oh, yeah, that was that was John Gordon. He was the same thing. Let's rob the guy and they start shooting at him. Yeah, like they come in they'll blast in with gunshots and everything and start shooting at I know a guy named Kevin who said that when they were going to the spot."
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"text": " He hears the gunshots and he's about to grab his gun and he's looking around and they come out of nowhere. He's like had I grabbed my gun, they were going to kill me. What was it? What was it the same thing with the I think it was the same thing with the kid that lost his leg. Yes. Yes. I remember his name. His name was um, he only went because his brother asked him to drive and he said he didn't want to go. They killed his brother and blamed him. Yes, they charged him with the murder. He got 30 years."
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"text": " Patting themselves on the back, bro. Just taking off good clean people or good criminals off the street. We're doing the right thing. They're saying these guys were predisposed. So their whole they got rid of the any broke persons predisposed to that. That's what one judge said. That's what he goes. You're you're targeting broke people and promising them money."
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"text": " Easy money, you're taking somebody, I'm fucking broke and here you come. A risky plan. Yeah, for easy money and you're telling me it's easy and I'm walking right into it. Yeah, and I'm walking right into a trap. You know, my favorite is, my favorite is the drug deal where they say, hey, I'm going to sell you a bag here. I got you on, you're on wire. You're done. I just sold it to you. You just committed a felony. Why didn't I arrest you? No, no, we want to get a few more buys."
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"text": " We get another one, another felony, another felony, another felony. Have we hit the minimum, the mandatory minimum yet? Yes, we do. Now we arrest you because before you could have got probation, but now you get five years. That's the same. You know what's so funny about those half the prison population can be reduced and you haven't you haven't done a fucking thing to harm society at all. Really just probably helping to correct some injustice really."
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"text": " I was in a dormitory with a gentleman, an older black guy, and he told me, he said, young man, back when I was young, he said, young man, I shit you not, I am here for $20 rock, got five years. They sent him to five years. And all of his, you can tell the type of person, you know, he's smoker, this and that. Not this career rock seller or whatever, $20 worth of powder."
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"text": " And because it was rock. Yeah. Yeah. How much money are they going to spend on five years? And that's the state. The state is it say the state state is about 20,000 per person. The feds is about 32 state is 20. Here's the thing. So for five years, they're going to spend $100,000 to keep a fucking dude locked up for $20. And they're going to tell themselves that that's okay. But here's the here's the here's the outside of that coin though."
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"text": " The recidivism that is so high. So like as me Johnny, I'm just playing the devil's advocate as me Johnny citizen. I obviously don't want criminals, you know, while I'm going to the store. So like guys that have this"
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"text": " premise of being tough on crime and all that. That's why they get elected. No, because it's a selling point, bro. It's not harming anybody. They would say it is because the criminals, the guys that we've proven that commit crimes, they're getting out, they're going to jail and they get back out and they do the same stuff again fast. They get out and jump to the"
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"text": " To the crime. Put them in a drug rehab and give them a job. And if he still fucks up, then make it reasonable for him to be able to buy it where he can work at a labor place and buy it. And he can smoke as much as he wants. We're not going to keep throwing these guys in jail. But playing the devil's advocate again, get them out, put them in a rehab, doing such and such and such. So now they may be thinking, I'm spending a lot of rehab costs money. These programs take employees and"
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"text": " putting all these guys on ankle monitors and stuff. Well, if you look at the data, ankle monitor just doesn't work. I disagree. Oh, no, I mean, just on it. So I'm going to tell you that there was a room full of people that did not make it won't make it the small percentage of Matt Cox is out there that go to prison, develop a plan,"
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"text": " and become so locked in that I'm going to change because I don't like this. I don't want anymore. The percentage of those people is very small. Right, but the alternative isn't to give up on them and throw them in prison for the rest of their life. The alternative is to keep spending more money to try to rehabilitate them. By the way, it's not more money because if you spend, if it's in the state, if it's $20,000,"
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"text": " Over the course of five years, that's $100,000. If this guy was on the street, I could spend $50,000 and you can educate him in some something to do where he can make make a living. And then if he wants to keep using drugs, he can keep using drugs. That's fine. Because the drugs are are are reasonably priced and they're they're safe. Now, I'm not saying that you're going to make him a financial manager while he's also doing crack."
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"text": " or should I say rock? So while he's doing rock, you know, I'm not going to say you're a rockhead, you're my rockhead financial planner, although that'd be a great, you know, rock, rockhead finance, rockhead finance. I saved you money, you didn't even know you had. But you know where he can work in a manufacturing job, you know, he can work in, in, in something in a labor job, he can, he can drywall, he can paint, he can do something like that. And then by the way, those jobs, there's there's tons of those guys, like I probably say,"
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"text": " 50 60% of those labor forces have guys that are professional alcoholics or professional addicts, even if it's only cigarettes or something cigarettes, alcohol, some kind of drugs. And they do great work. So I'm saying what's what's not an alternative. What's not the solution is"
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"text": " He goes to jail for for five years here, and then he gets out and two years later, he gets another seven years and two years later, he gets another two years and two years later, he gets another he gets eight years like that's not the solution. I can, it costs a drug rehab, you can say, hey, man, that's a nice drug rehab, they put a lot of effort in that. And they really, really did a bunch of stuff. And that was an expensive drug rehab. You're right. It was an expensive drug rehab. It costs $10,000 for him to be there for a month."
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"text": " It didn't cost $20,000. It didn't cost $30,000. It damn sure didn't cost $100,000. And you know what happens? Maybe it fixes him. Maybe. Maybe. To your point. Straight life is very, very, very difficult. To your point. Society, especially with prices. I did the drug rehab thing as an alternative to incarceration."
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"text": " And it was an 18 month program. They had the horses out there. Like it was a very nice program. We got the bus to work and everything. And I got to sit firsthand with drug addicts. And like my eyes were open to their perspective of stuff. Like I met a guy who would steal his mother's clothes. Wow, bring it to"
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"text": " Play it again, Plato closet. Yeah, Plato's closet. Wow. And what they wouldn't buy. Well, I'm sure it wasn't clothes she wore. No, no, no. It was clothes she wore. It was because he had run out of stuff stealing in the house. So he would steal what he could. And what they wouldn't buy at Plato, he would just walk out the front door and drop it."
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"text": " Because I've gotten everything. Where else am I going to bring it back home? So I got to sit around people with that mindset, and I watched them change, right? And I learned a lot about myself in that situation. I just put instead of rock, but money building that blank. And there was a lot of addictive personalities that I have, mind you."
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"text": " All of that is well and good when you're in these rehabilitation centers. You're not drug dependent. You've got all the synapses snapping and clicking. The minute you get out, what resources are available? For one. For two, you have to have someone with the correct mindset. You can't rehabilitate what's in here. So when you're out and free and you don't have to go to bed because they turn the lights off at eight,"
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"text": " And now you're free and clear and you have to get on the bus and go, that's a different thing. That's a different beast. And it's hard for people to make that that change up here. I had to walk to pace setters, right today labor, because I didn't have a walk home. But I was committed to not going back again. You think that every single person that went to that place went right got out and immediately got back on drugs?"
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"text": " I would say from my experience 98% 98 98 out of 100 you think didn't go back because I believe like some people got family that would damn well hey that's his view and I say that confidently like because I knew people there"
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"text": " Even when I did the drug thing at Falkenberg and they had the in-house drug treatment. So I ran into a lot of those people and I ran into the people that knew other people and the stories are all the same, man, you know, what's the name that you know, one thing I shot you or I'm riding my bike. I'll pull up at a gas and guess what? I see the other what's the name and he's asking for a dollar right or three, you know, it's hard like the rehabilitation thing sounds"
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"text": " Fantastic. Help the homeless. All that stuff sounds, but it is absolutely the person. Let's assume it's 2%. Okay. If we break out pen and pencil right now and take those hundred people that we're going to get five years at $20,000 in the state apiece. And 2% of them, every one of them that goes into the drug rehab, continually gets better and better and better. In the end,"
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"text": " It's still a better solution to send them to rehabs than it is to lock them up for five years. First of all, the five years is just their first prison sentence. They're going to keep coming back and come back. Let's say 2% get better every single time. The drug rehab doesn't cost but 10 grand for 10 or for 30 to 60 days. No, that drug rehab is way more expensive than they want it out of my insurance Phoenix House wanted for the 18 months. These people don't have insurance?"
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"text": " I'm talking about a state-run facility, not something that's appointed by the judge in New York. I've been to that one too. And you think that one costs how much? The state-run one? They're not charging $20,000 or $30,000 for 30 days. They're not charging that. And it doesn't matter anyway, because remember it was a five-year prison sentence. It was $100,000. You're talking about $100,000 versus what? If they pay $20,000?"
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"text": " 30 for 60 days. I'm talking to saying and 2% keep repeating in the end. I think that that drug and some people is just never going to change. They're not going to change, but they'll just keep going back and going back and going back. You know, I'm talking to a friend of mine that gets out in I think April and and very addicted to meth and has not taken any drug rehabilitation."
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"text": " So I was asking today. I'm like, I thought them on the phone over here. I'm like, what about what about your addiction? He's like, well, I've been without it for eight years. And so I just have to not want to go around that and I want to get around my family. What do you think his chances are zero? He said he hasn't even had the urges anymore because he's there. Like a and everything said other than they're like, I could have got high when I was here, but I've been turning it down. It's different."
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"text": " That's different. Like I could have gotten hot because his homeboy might have bought, spent 20 bucks on some pills. What about the, so you think the longer that that person has been addicted to a drug, the more chance they go back to it? Not, not the length of time. It's absolutely the person. Well, he's saying that he's done. It's not only physically addictive. Like it's like when I'm bored and I got nothing to do, that mind goes to toiling on all the old stuff."
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"text": " Or when I go to hang out and I'm with a chick and everything, those feelings come up. I'm with a chick. I usually smoke some meth. The sex is different because I associate good sex, a good hanging out, but with the drug. So that's what it now chilling sitting in P dorm. There's no real urge. The real urge is from when he's got 20 bucks in his pocket. He had me convinced this morning."
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"text": " Zero chance. It's zero chance. But what I'll say is this, if he doesn't believe himself that like, that stuff is not even an option. That's what they say. It's just it's filthy. It's like you have to change your whole. So what is it? What is the percentage? What's the likelihood that I walked into a halfway house that had 100 people in it?"
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"text": " I sat down with a chick, started flirting with her, ended up with her, married her, and she's a long-term drug addict, meth. And then I just happened to pick one of the 2% that doesn't re-offend as far as going right back to meth, because I don't think that it's 2%."
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"text": " Is the likelihood that I walked in there sat with that person and ended up with that person guess what everybody there was had gone to almost everybody there was probably for drugs. I'd say 70% of a feather, but she would you were attracted to something that"
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"text": " Or maybe the percentage is a little higher. Maybe it's a little higher. What was her perception of the meth? I mean, was she committed to not selling meth? She's been smoking ice. She was 11 years old. Yeah, but was she committed to getting off of it when she was there? Was her commitment like, I'm never doing meth again? She's been committed to getting off meth many, many times. She's gotten off for six months. She's gotten off for nine months. Every time she ever found out she was pregnant, immediately stopped doing it."
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"text": " And then she would have the baby and then whatever six months later a year later. Boom. She start up again. Bam. She start up again. Boom. She start the guy. She date this guy. He's does math. They boom. They start up again. That's a trigger, right? If the guy you're dating does math, but it's exactly how you it's up to rehabilitation after rehabilitation. She did do art app. She did do art app that life is different for that person, right? Like there with someone that supports them."
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"text": " I don't think you should be able to get out of prison till you take an art app style program. I think that's how good I think our DAP is what absolutely. You've never heard me say that. I promise you. I have all about your book Matt."
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"text": " My book mocks it. It doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I think it's, I think it's a great pro. I think it's a great program. I mocked the people. How many idiots, the people running the program. Half of them are psychos. Yeah. I agree with that people. What are DAP? Oh, it's a, it's a, it's a residential drug treatment program inside of prison where for nine months you go in, you go into our DAP is drug and alcohol treatment. What?"
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"text": " I mean, everybody in the in the program is everybody in that unit is programming. So they're all art app. Oh, so been around, right? So it's nine months of behavior modification. Nine months, they're not fucking they're not fucking around, bro. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. And you're lucky, because I'd say 25. Well, I'd say 10% get kicked out, maybe 25% get rephased, where you have to go back into another three months. I knew one guy who was like, he got rephased. And he was like, man, looks like another three months."
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"text": " Because you know, they do it in phases, right? So something you go back and you like there's like three phases. He's like, Yep, looks like I'm going to go back. But one of your first the first one of the first things you learn is to take responsibility. But when he went into his team meeting, and they were talking to him about his victims, he was like, what victims I did Medicaid scams. He's like, I don't have any victims. And so you're not taking responsibility."
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"text": " for your actions. So he got rephased back to the beginning. Nine, I've seen maybe it was six, maybe it was six months. You can't money money on the programs nine minutes, but I've seen all the way back, but you're losing him. So I'm sorry, but yeah, it's super, super intense, intense. You're you're in you're in a unit where you're living with someone and the accountability also comes with confrontation to where every morning you get up, you have a meeting."
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"text": " And they give you all of these designs. They put names on different modes of thinking. You know, I'm saying to kind of help you conceptualize what you might be doing and going through. And they also do this thing where I'm supposed to hold you accountable, where I'll stand up and I'll say, I'd like to, yeah, I'd like to address six for, um, I like to help six and you'd stand up and I go six. I noticed you were doing this wrong and this wrong. And I'm telling you that in front of the whole group."
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"text": " So it's a little humiliating and embarrassing and they put you on the spot and then you have to accept what I'm saying and process it. That is a very difficult thing for a lot of people. And I'm going to tell you something like this morning, this morning when you were, when we were talking to her about her cray cray, um, yes, yes."
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"text": " like if you notice she didn't dispute it. Whereas most people's normal reaction when I'm saying something about you is about them is to argue that it's not true. She didn't dispute it. She just kind of says, well, it's a nice crate. It's like you accept and I believe that that"
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"text": " One of the things that our depth helps you it helps you in dealing in situations and being able to be reflective and see yourself how other people see you. I believe it helps you deal with stress things that are triggers to move to it helps you deal with stress. It helps you. It's a it's a it's a behavior modification program. You have to work through books."
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"text": " It teaches you what is critical thinking. Critical thinking. Absolutely, like that's 90%. That's the biggest problem is to be able to think through. Most people are reactionary. They don't think through all the steps. They react immediately. And then when suddenly they're in handcuffs, they're like, oh my God, what happened? Did you know this was happening? You attacked the guy. Yeah, but he said that it's irrelevant what he said. You had to know that the end result by attacking him was you were going to end up by handcuffs."
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"text": " So, you know, it teaches you to make those that what a normal but I realize a normal person does instinctively. They don't attack somebody else immediately. They think they're like, Oh, I'm pissed and I'd like to fucking slap this. Right. But you know what's going to happen? I'm going to do that we make it I might get away with it. Now. He'll call the police that guy called police. I'm going to end up"
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"text": " The cops are going to show up there. They already have my name. I'm going to end up in prison. Well, I think before that they'll say it's not worth me murdering this guy. Right. Right. Because I'm angry. Did I ever tell you the like the like going to prison? I'd be okay with cracking a few people about a month and a half ago. I was in and if you guys know me, I'm absolutely nonviolent. The most laid-back person that thing a month and a half ago. I was in Costco."
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"text": " And I'm in line. Did I tell you that story? We had it on the last podcast. The Costco incident? Yeah, yeah. And with Boziak."
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"text": " Are we wanting to get two episodes today? Yes. Sorry. So we might need to wrap this one up. It's not a new one. All right. Cause I only because you told that you told that windows of all four of you guys. Oh yeah. When the guy hit me with the button thing, he told you move or something like he bumped me and he hit me and I looked at him and he goes move. Yeah. Yeah. And the first thing I thought was I wouldn't get a bond. It's like,"
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"text": " I just I wouldn't get a bond so I would have to sit in jail. That's exactly because I was about to turn that cart over and that was my first thought is like you won't get a bond."
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"text": " So I moved. Hey you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button so you get notified of videos like this. Also do me a favor and go to Six's YouTube channel. We're going to put the description in the, we're going to put the description, we're going to put the link in the description box. You just click on it, go straight over there and subscribe to his channel."
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"text": " A mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead, and he claimed LSD made him do it. His name, David Minor IV, and we talked to him. Listen to Invisible Choir every other week as we uncover the most haunting true crimes you've never heard of, available wherever you get your podcasts."
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