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It started with a scream inside a quiet Maryland home.
A mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead, and he claimed LSD made him do it. His name, David Minor IV, and we talked to him. Listen to Invisible Choir every other week as we uncover the most haunting true crimes you've never heard of, available wherever you get your podcasts.
It was so exaggerated by the media and by the government. They pushed an exaggerated narrative that did not happen. For example, cops initiated the entire thing. So let me first preface this by saying my understanding of the events are limited. I've watched a couple of documentaries.
And one, I have like a real disdain for just the media in general. But I couldn't find a documentary that wasn't as soon as it comes on within three or four minutes. It's like, it just seemed overwhelmingly slanted. You know, no, you know, I mean, no offense to, you know, the media, but they were they were all they, they seemed extremely slanted. Yeah. And everything was, you know,
It was violent this, violent that. And I felt like, okay, you guys are pushing this agenda. And thus far, at that moment, I hadn't seen anything that I would have considered violent. Later, I definitely did. And then they were saying things that Trump was
An agenda that Trump was a put was pushing but they never showed any footage where he was saying anything wrong like I'm like okay they're saying that he's inciting all of this but I'm watching what he's saying and unless I had my own agenda I wouldn't be taking that.
Taking what he's saying in that manner at all. You know I'm saying like he's got he uses a lot of rhetoric He's always you know spouting off and saying insane stuff But I mean you have to take it with a grain of salt because obviously the left does the same thing but I'm watching I couldn't find one that was that I felt like was Non-biased the problem is of course as you watch they're only showing you one side, right? And let's face it if that if that footage didn't exist
then I'm not saying it's untrue. I'm not saying their version isn't untrue. I always hate that. There's that saying there's there's their version and your version, you know, and then there's the truth. And I just felt like I was only able to find their version. Of course, they had they had a monopoly on the information that was that was given. Because if you were to say contrary to what the media wanted wanted to put out there that you were called a conspiracy theorist are called like, you know, you're lying, you're trying to
erase what would happen. Like, look, I understand that there were people that have done things they probably shouldn't have did on January 6. But it was so exaggerated by the media and by the government. They're the big ones that pushed it. And I know the media and the government were in bed together, right? So they push an exaggerated narrative that did not happen. For example, the planning of the insurrection. First of all, it wasn't even an insurrection. Insurrection is an actual charge. So let me give you an example. Let's say you go into a candy or a candy store and you take some candy.
That's called theft, right? That's like you taking something and then all the news lines say he robbed that store. He robbed that store, right? You didn't rob the store. You stole something, right? So insurrection, they call it insurrection. Insurrection is a charge. No one was charged with insurrection. So that's number one. Anyway, that's just a side point. I digress on that. But
They created this narrative that it was a planned orchestrated event where people were sitting behind, you know, that blueprints of the Capitol and they were, you know, marking points and we have these radios and it's all coordinated event to attack the Capitol. That's 100% a lie. Right. 100% a lie. I don't know anyone who did that. They said that the night before we were at a house and we were coordinating, we were getting drunk the night before. So we were just watching TV getting drunk. So
This whole narrative they push, they were allowed to push it because the government pushed that and the government knew it was a lie. They know it's a lie, but they pushed it anyway for political reasons. So yeah, we'll get it and all that. We're not in a hurry.
We're like 13 minutes in. I get kind of carried away with this conversation. What I was going to say is one of the ones I watched was it was a journalist and so what he does is first he starts talking about these white supremacist groups that are at these rallies. This is a year or two before prior to all and he's saying white supremacist group white supremacist groups these and then it shifts to extremist groups.
And then he kind of bounces back and forth, and he starts talking about the Proud Boys. But as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, okay, so in my mind, I immediately start thinking, okay, so the Proud Boys is like a white supremacist group. But as he's showing it, there's blacks, like they're black, you know, I'm saying there's blacks, there's Hispanics, there's and I'm like, okay, and so this doesn't what are you with the what they're showing doesn't quite make sense as far as the Proud Boys are concerned. Yeah. And at one point, he does kind of clarify it.
Who says like, although they do allow blacks and Hispanics to join, I was like, you're lumping them in with a white supremacy movement.
I'm pretty sure, I'm not positive of this, but I'm pretty sure white supremacist groups probably wouldn't be allowing blacks and Hispanics in. I mean, I don't know. Doubtfully. I'm thinking that maybe the core, you know, your core values might be offended by that. But yeah, so that's what they were going into these different rallies and stuff.
That was another one of those things where I was like, well, this is you're not making a huge distinction here and you guys keep showing these groups, you keep talking about the proud boys being white supremacists, but that's not what I'm seeing at all. And then they then he talks about how they disappeared, then they came back and then there are these rallies and so what how did and I know that you were involved.
So how did you get involved with that group? And why did you get involved? Were you and were you a police officer at the time? I guess that's three questions. So towards the end of my career, I just decided that I want to do something else. That's when I joined the proud boys and felt like my beliefs and the you know, my political beliefs and being a police officer kind of kind of a you know, I don't know the word to use but
They weren't aligning properly, right? Not to say that police officers are doing the wrong thing, but I feel like a lot of cops, like it was during the COVID time, a lot of cops were doing what they were told, not what they believed in. So for example, there was like ordinances and things that were coming down from the government.
like, you know, we had a curfew. So after nine or 10 o'clock, anyone was on the street, you had the legal right unless they were, what was it called? Essential, essential that you could arrest them for breaking the curfew. And I'm like, I'm not doing that, right? I'm not doing that's ridiculous. So things like that were coming down. I'm like, man, this is not what I want to be a part of anymore. So I went on to pursue different things. And how did the problem? Oh, so I was Yeah, I was still involved with them. And it's just it basically
They try to politicize the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys is a drinking group where guys get together, they talk politics. I mean, you can't be left-winger and join. Basically, it's a right-wing drinking group. So you get together a couple times a month, drink some beers, talk about politics, work out together, just like a, you know, it's a men's group. So it's been politicized over the years, you know, they throw the accusation of white supremacy because
The media needs that white supremacist boogeyman because they've been talking about it for years. Right. They need that, which is the greatest threat to civilization. I mean, no, it's not. It's ridiculous. Right. They even say that. But no, it's not. The problem is not a white supremacist group. You know, are some of them unapologetically like pro-white, like, yeah, white families, but you should be that no matter what you are, you know, pro whatever you are. Yeah. It's okay if you're black and you say you're pro-black. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So that's acceptable.
Yeah, they make that that acceptable, but you're pro white, which you should be no matter what race you are pro your people. But the group itself is not a white nationalist organization. Okay, so how did you get involved with them? Like, I just emailed them. Okay. Yeah, I saw him on the streets in 2018. At a Trump event. So I emailed him. That's how I got in. Okay. And I mean,
and that's it like there's just I mean is it is it looks like a national I mean are there rally like what what is it like 12 guys that you know in Sumter County or I mean I don't know the specific numbers but a lot more than there's a lot of a lot of guys in Florida particularly there's a lot of problems across the United States and
you know, majority of them that I met are jam up awesome guys, and the guys locally in my in the Orlando area, we work out together, we go to church together, we, you know, go to the bars together. And we basically it's just camaraderie thing. You know, it's a support the support system for men like minded men. Okay. And so you, you were so you're not retired, whatever you quit the police department. And it doesn't pay, right? Like, there's not like pay
So I was making about after taxes. Oh, you're saying they're the proud boys, right? I mean, you quit your job. Like, what are you doing for work at this point? So I moved on to insurance and things like that. Okay, so it was this much safer. As a cop, I was making about 800 bucks a week after taxes, which is, you know, not terrible, but it's not enough to be chasing bad guys and getting shot at things like that. But yeah, no, the problem was that they don't pay you have to basically you don't pay but you have to
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How did you transition into going like, were you going to rallies or did you just happen to go to Washington that day? Oh, on January 6th. Were you going to Trump rallies? Were you going to rallies in general? I had been to a few Trump rallies, but it was kind of like, you know, we wanted to start staying away from like just showing up to every Trump rally. This was specifically because what you've seen, I don't know if you guys have seen it on YouTube and Facebook and all that,
where these Trump supporters would go to Trump rallies. And on their way to their cars, you'd have like Antifa, the anti fascist, they would basically follow these families. I've seen a wife, husband, wife and children being attacked by these people being kicked things thrown at them just because they're wearing MAGA hats. Right. So it's always pretty pissed off about that. So we went specifically because we figured that Antifa and all these left wing activists were gonna follow them again, went there to make sure it didn't happen.
And that's how we got kind of sucked up into that into the January 6, the capital thing. And this is going to sound horrible, right? Because you're like, you don't know anything. Like, all all I hear, all I hear is, you know, is Antifa, Antifa, you know, there was a riot and or there was a peaceful
Peaceful, you know, protest in Chicago and Antifa was there and they burned down, you know, six buildings. You're right. Right. It was peaceful and they knocked out a bunch of windows or anti, you know, and that there I'm always hearing like, well, I don't understand when an Tifa goes to a some kind of protest and people got beat get beat up or cars are flipped over set on fire buildings or you know, whatever that they say it's peaceful and they keep saying Antifa Antifa. What is the Antifa?
Exactly and Tifa are anti fascist. Okay, so that's that's just the the hyphenated, you know, right shortened versions anti fascist, and they view fascism basically is anything first of all, it's involved with like white families, right? Or if you're conservative white family, you're a fascist. Anything that goes against like their ridiculous Marxist anarchist view. So they consider anyone who's against that a fascist and that's what they want to oppose.
Okay, yeah, that's not what I think of as fascism at all. But I mean, fascism, I feel it's basically nationalism, right? Like, it's, it's, yeah, so before prior to the dictionaries that came out in, like the 30s and 20s, 30s and 40s, that fascism is ultra nationalism.
You know, patriotism, things like that. The term fascism was... Hitler ruined it. Well, that's what it is. They hijacked it because they wanted to... Fascism was a good thing for the people at their time. If you look at the countries, the economy, things like that, they loved their country. The economy was doing good. Italy. It turned Italy around, right? And Germany as well. The German economy was doing really well. They hijacked it because it was...
Fascism arose to fight communism and Marxism. So when you're trying to instill these Marxist values, Marxist ideology, fascism was against it. That's why they label everything fascist, just so that you don't have to, it's a boogeyman word. So if you say, hey, I'm against socialism, they go, oh, you're a fascist, but that's not necessarily true. And on top of that, I was going to say, I think that
add off was, you know, I mean, I do know that it was so funny is how quickly people forget when he first came into power, and the Nazi party was elected into power, and then he was appointed. You know, everybody loved him. They loved him for years. He was
Time magazine like man of the year at one point he turned Germany around and it was amazing was phenomenal even though there were things that were definitely leaning towards that you could probably see lead that were definitely leaning toward the you know the coming Holocaust right but the problem is once the Holocaust happened World War two falls
Public opinion shifted away from fascism because they connected the Holocaust with fascism. You know what I'm saying? I mean, in my opinion, like suddenly they said, okay, well, think Verizon, the best 5G network is expensive. Think again, bring in your AT&T or T-Mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal. Now what's the
It started with a scream inside a quiet Maryland home.
A mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead, and he claimed LSD made him do it. His name, David Minor IV, and we talked to him. Listen to Invisible Choir every other week as we uncover the most haunting true crimes you've never heard of, available wherever you get your podcasts.
You're fascist in your, you know, your, you know, one race, but you could have fascism in any country could be there. This is true. Right. There's fascism in, in Africa, there could be it could be in Africa, Europe, it could be actually, you know, who's also is Japan, right? Like, anybody? Yeah, I would say El Salvador today is probably the closest thing to fascism that we have. Maybe not 100%, but it's the closest thing that we have. Right? It's a they've, they've eradicated
They've eradicated a crime there, basically. Yeah, they took that huge prison. I'm sorry, but go ahead. No, no, I you know, what's funny is it is, you know, so I remember this is and we'll get back to this.
And maybe Colby will cut this out. But I think this is kind of interesting, right? People love the whole fascist World War Two debate right now. Right? Well, listen, I love World War Two. I watched the I watched the documentaries over and over and over again. My I feel bad for my wife. But listen, she's learning a lot. So here's, here's the thing is that when I we went to Germany, when I was probably
11 or 11 or 12 years old, we actually picked up a BMW at the at the factory. This is when they made BMWs in Germany, picked it up, drove it on the Autobahn and shipped over here because you could do that back then. I don't know if you can now. But so my hope so we would not my whole family, my mom, my mother, father and I, and we stayed at Airbnb's, Airbnb's. They weren't Airbnb's. They were they were bed and breakfasts. That's what they call it. So they were bed and breakfasts back then. Now it's Airbnb. Well, without the breakfast. So
Anyway, we went we stayed and there was a woman who was in the woman was renting out her rooms, right? That's what a bed and breakfast was. So I remember we were eating breakfast and we were about to leave and she was probably in her late 60s. And I remember she was talking, my dad was actually in Korea, he was stationed in Germany.
And keep in mind, Korea was only, you know, whatever, a decade or so after, like, whatever 1015 years after World War Two ended. So they're still recovering. They're still buildings that are that are are completely demolished. They haven't even rebuilt. And she was talking about how she had grown up there. She lived there her whole life. She was there during the war. She was young girl during the war.
Talk about how she had like three brothers who were all alive because they were very young during World War Two, but they were all still alive. And when the Americans that little town we were when when the Americans came in, the Americans came in, and they walk came through the town and they were like, Look, any men that were part of the German Army have to bring their paperwork and come, you know, on this day,
And they all and she said, I think she said her three brothers went down there. And one of them came back. And, and I, you know, so she was telling that to my dad, I was just like, you know, I'm a little kid, I'm 11 years old, I don't have a fucking clue what's going on. I'm like, okay. And my dad was right, right, right. So when we got in the car later, I was like, my dad was talking to my mom about it. And I mentioned, I should pull this closer. And I mentioned, what does she mean only? Why did she say only two came back? What happened?
Did they go to jail? Do they? And my dad said, you know, the history books write a certain version of events so that people can feel okay about, you know, about horrible things that have happened. Now, back then you could do that. You can't do that now. And so
He was he said that I have no doubt that those that they determined that one of the brothers hadn't really done anything. He was young. He never left, you know, never left the area. He never left Germany. He never did anything probably was never in combat. He left. The other two may have been they may have been with the SS who knows what these guys did. They could have been Gestapo God only knows but they were on a list of guys that didn't come back.
And he's like, who knows what happened to them? Most likely, they may have been executed. Who knows? But he's like, those are the things that happen in war that that don't make the history books, because you can't necessarily go into a country, take it over and leave a bunch of people to rebuild the country that are armed and upset. Yeah. And horrible things have to happen in order to move an agenda forward.
And I remember thinking, you know, so that kind of, I realized that. And if you look back, there's tons of events as cameras became more and more prevalent, right? Do you get the Vietnam stage or air where they're doing atrocities and they're being caught on camera, the things that aren't caught on camera. Everybody shuts up about it. But the horrific things that have to happen in order for you to invade a country and take it over successfully, just can't
When I watched these documentaries and stuff, and I realized like when
You know, you expect that of the Soviets when they came in, you don't really expect it. And hey, you know what, the Americans may have just handed them over to the Soviets, right? Soviets took a ton of Germans, brought them into into the Soviet Union and just worked them to death. You know, so they may have handed them over for maybe the Americans didn't get their hands dirty.
But somebody had to get their hands dirty. I had a conversation the other day where we were talking about wars and how, oh, yeah, the guy had said, oh, yeah, well, wars will be fought with drones and this and that I was like, at some point, you have to have boots on the ground and somebody has to make those horrific decisions. You know, but it's unfortunately, it does have to happen unless you're going to think you're going to do what you're going to put everybody in prisons or in internment camps, you're going to re educate them. I mean, you know, it's
That's expensive. You know, it's not expensive, like, like bullets and gasoline. They're very cheap. They're permanent solutions. You know, and that's an unfortunate truth. But that's the kind of things that happened back then. And that's the kind of things that would have would have to happen in order to take over something successfully. And I don't think that the because I've had conversations with guys about
Mexico, you know, what could you do about Mexico? I mean, I could think about what you would do that would work.
But it would never be accepted. It would just be brutal as in like invade. Yeah, you invade and you destroy the cartels. Yeah, the El Salvador. You're you're digging ditches and you're leaving bodies and you know, it's horrific and it's horrible. And and you know, it's brutality for 10 years and then people become assimilated in 20 years. Nobody's even talking about or thinking about it. You know, maybe you've got some American Indians running around who are still complaining about it, but that's over. That ship is sailed. Might as well stop complaining. You've got
This is what you got casino you got some land and casinos and that's what you guys not it's not changing like you're not you know the people that are complaining about oh you stole this land no you stole it from him and he stole it from him and he stole it from him and we're not there's no established nation at that time yeah we're not going anywhere nobody's gonna be like
You're right, bro. I got my my DNA thing back. I'm going I got I just got my DNA thing back. I'm going to I'm going to go to Norway right now because I'm you know, or Sweden because of actually this one says I'm 60 something percent Swedish. So, you know, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and go back to one of these Nordic countries like that's not happening. Nobody's doing that. So stop complaining. I think to go you said something like like a couple minutes ago that they write history books a certain way and the Victor always writes the history of course.
So it's always manipulated. And that's why I always I never used to in the past, but now I don't trust the government at all. So I always look into history and I'm like trying to pick apart what they're doing. So I always try to watch like counter or get counter information or get information that is counter to what we've been taught. Right. So the whole we're talking about the whole World War Two thing, I think, has been greatly manipulated to create this like patriotism with Americans. We always did the right thing. We always did the right thing. We're the we're the good guys.
I think America's probably been the bad guys in a lot of wars, but they make us believe or they try to make us believe that they're the good guys. Well, what about I love the way they they do it on on TV, where when the when the allies went into these towns and would find the concentration camps, they'd always be like,
Can you believe they're doing this? I can believe they're doing this because it was yeah, it was in the newspapers three years ago that this is what they were doing. You've known this is what they were doing. Yeah, they always acted shocked by it. Like it's like we had concentration camps in the United States. Yeah, Japanese. I mean, we weren't doing that. We weren't starving them to death. But you know, still, I understand we you will do that. Like, look, you have to there's things you have to do. It's like, oh, they bombed, you know, we're only bombing
military targets. No, we're bombing cities that have no military targets. Look at Japan.
was Hiroshima and Nagasaki like me, you know, both neither was of those were military targets. We bombed both of them. Why? Because because the weather was good. Yeah, I mean, we're trying to get you guys to a point where you will surrender. Did that save American lives? I have no doubt that saved Americans lives. Was it brutal? Yeah, but that's what that's war. Yeah, that's war. It's horrible. Yeah, it sucks. But that's the way it is. It's same thing with listen. Oh, gosh, was it India or
Pakistan, I want to say was India. Yeah. Nobody ever talks about the fact that Churchill took a ton of food and supplies from India and millions of Indians starved to death so that England could eat. It was a possession of, of, of the UK and they needed, they needed food. And so they took food. They, they took their
I don't know if you saw there's a Tucker Carlson interview that was maybe like a year ago or something. And Churchill was not this like savior that they try to prop them up to be. He was the one that instigated World War II.
The Germans Hitler tried to have multiple times multiple times like I don't want a war. I don't want a war Let's not do this. We're we're very much alike. Let's not do this and Churchill was the one that kept instigating I remember during that I think it was that podcast that they were about to bomb London the Germans and they they reached out to to Churchill and Tried to make peace like we don't want to continue this war. We don't want to bomb London We don't want to bomb London and they try to get the women and children out actually told him
take the women and children out where you're gonna bomb. Yeah, which he did. He did move them. But you know, listen, Hess, Hess built a special plane and flew into I want to say it's Scotland and and jumped out. You know this? No, listen, listen, listen. The stuff that happened in World War Two is the stuff of Hollywood. Hess was like the deputy chief, which I think is deputy chief, basically like the vice president.
He was afraid that they were moving towards war. He actually had a special plane built and flew into Scotland to try and meet with a guy who was an aristocrat that he had met with before because he wanted to talk to Churchill about suing for peace, because Churchill would not have a discussion at all, even though
I get it like the guys he's not a sweet person but yeah there's all kinds of atrocities that occurred during that time plus.
There was a ship that was full of Jews that were coming from Europe that tried to come to the United States, and the United States said, no, no, no, no, no, you've got 4,000 Jews on that ship or something, we're absolutely not interested, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around. Eventually, they had to go back to Germany, went back to Germany, landed and ended up in all ended up in concentration camps.
What happened to, you know, bring us your, bring us your poor bring us you know, like, you know, these things like, we were an isolationist country at that point, we were like, hey, leave it. That's, that's their problem. You know, although honestly, it did put America into a great position globally at that time. And I mean, it shifted our the power base of the world power base to America at that time. But regardless, you know, those are all things that don't
That nobody ever talks about like war in general is brutal. You know, these are brutal people brutal times brutal things have to happen. So but okay, so we were yeah, we were talking about World War Two and how these horrific things happen. So how but so let's go back to all of the the events that that led up to
Um, I hate the segue there, bro. It's a horrible segue. It's fucking horrible. I feel like that's like, yeah, bro. That's horrible. It's it's I mean, it's it's we're talking about fascism and Antifa and all that. That's a horrible. So that's not true. Oh, yeah. Okay, now I know fascism. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll probably come down a little bit of those stories and try to if you're going to roll with fascism.
Yeah, yeah, I think I think that the comparison and fascism had had it not had not been connected to had not been connected to the Holocaust, then it probably wouldn't have this horrific because people loved they loved fascism up until
World War two and the Holocaust and then it got this it was got that connection and then it was over I'm gonna give you my opinion on this. Okay. Okay So I think the reason why fascism is so has such a bad from the both left and the right It's the only thing left and the right agree on is fascism is bad. I think it's because during the time Mussolini Hitler and you know, the doing that was in the thirties is that they arrested the bankers right and they shut down central banks in Germany and I think it was in
can't remember the other country. But several countries, they shut down banks. Italy was one of them. But there was another one, too. And I can't remember the other one. But it's all in that area of Europe. But they shut down these banks and they arrested the Rothschilds. Okay. When you arrest the Rothschilds, which are still like the richest family in the universe, you start stepping on toes, right? And when you you cause the international banks to lose so much money, because you're shutting down banks in Europe, big banks in Europe, that
That's when I think they started to get upset. Oh, we got to get rid of this fascism thing because they're shutting down banks and now we're losing, you know, billions of dollars. So I think that's why they started shifting towards we got to start making this this ideology, even though it was looked at as like ultra nationalism. We have to make this ideology distasteful in people's mouths. And I think that's when it started to change. But yeah, the Holocaust didn't help. I think the initial thing though was the rusting the Rothschilds and messing with the international banks. Okay.
Did you know that did you know that the Henry Ford actually had bought it bought a I hate to keep going back to this. But I mean, there's a there's a there's a restaurant called Ford's garage. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, the bathrooms are super I never I always kind of go in the bathrooms because they've got the they've got all this stuff made in the bath. Have you ever been in the bathroom? I don't remember. I've been there but I can't remember. They've got like the like the
To like when you go to wash your hands like a swastikas. No, it's it's a it's a gas a gas pump. Oh, yeah. So, you know you pull you can you you oh you turn it and it's a gas pump and it's got a big tire and then like the the urinals are big like 50 gallon drugs like a mechanic shop. It is it looks like a mechanic like it's like everything's made on it's super super cool.
They have like a Model T up always in the somewhere over the bar. The food is good too. Yeah, the food is great. But I always think to myself like this guy was he was a huge anti-Semite like and now there's four there's like nobody ever says that like they're you're taking down statues of of you know Robert E Lee but you're eating at Ford's. I mean, there's so many things like that. It's like
Yeah, the JFK files came out and in those files it showed that he said that Hitler was the stuff of legends and that he believes that when all the hatred for Hitler is over, they're gonna realize that he was actually a good person. JFK, so I'm like, man, JFK, maybe that's why they killed him. I don't know. Yeah, I think there's probably another reason, but yeah. So yeah, I know I can't wait till people go through and just tear that whole thing apart and find out. I can't imagine you would keep
The truth, I can't imagine you would keep any record of whatever really happened. We'll probably just never know. Yeah. So, okay, so, so that's what you're thinking that it's a it's a whole the bankers are behind it. I think the bankers are behind everything. Okay, I think everything that is, it's manipulated by the interest of the international bankers. Oh, my gosh, what's the guy? I forget his name. I won't get his name right. Anyway, you might know him. He's a little guy like us.
Um, he's a billionaire. He does these, he does these, uh, whatever big conferences and stuff where he gets up and talking or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you might, I think you might be right. Um, you know, he's horribly crass, but the, I love that there's a woman who gets up and kind of confronts him and starts yelling about a global warming. And he says, listen, it's, it's a fraud. It's the biggest fraud that's ever been perpetrated.
On on a society and she's like, you know, and and she's screaming at him. He's like, listen, he's like, do you think that if that was true, you'd be able to get a loan on a piece of land or business anywhere in Florida? Since I was in I've told my wife this multiple times. When I was in school, we had we had our science books talked about how by the year 2000. It's like it was like 50% of Florida would be gone. Yeah.
The planet is constantly heating up and cooling that's with us with or without us. We are probably so irrelevant in the grand scheme.
But the fact is for you to continually believe that in the next 10 years or 50 years or whatever, I don't know about you, but it's cold as fuck right now in Florida. You know, there's all those TikToks that come out and said, look,
Trump just became president. He already fixed global warming. It's snowing in Florida. They had nine inches of snow in North Florida. Yeah, it's crazy. It's nuts. Like you can't you can't determine what's happening with some and you certainly can't believe that people writing these books and you certainly can't believe the the press. Did you see the thing that just came out where there's a whistleblower that says that Kamala Harris
was given all the questions to the debate with Trump prior to that. I saw that. That's why she was so she was good during the debate. Yeah, but like on a regular interview, she sucks. Right. That's why she wouldn't go on Joe Rogan. Yep. I'm gonna talk to Joe Rogan. Yeah. And he probably honestly, Rogan, I think would have been very fair. He would have probably asked her just like, and he wouldn't they asked him about that. He was like,
He was like, yeah, I just want to get to know her. I'm not here to, you know, I'm not trying to ambush her or anything. I'm trying to have a conversation. Rogan would have been the most fair, but obviously, like you said, she would have been ambushed with questions that she's not ready to answer. Yeah, even if a simple question, how do you plan on fixing, you know, whatever the cost of food or this and that she just doesn't have a plan. She can't answer it.
And I don't know that I don't know that Trump's going to fix any of that either. I mean, I think I've said this multiple times. I think that the economy is in a lot of trouble, and it's going down. And it's like a building that's coming down. It's like, who's best to bring the building down? Like, are we gonna, is it gonna just topple over? Or do we have a controlled, you know, demolition? Like, I think Trump, it's more of a controlled demolition. I think with, with Harris, it would have just tumbled over and taken out a few other buildings. But I think there's a problem with the economy, like houses are
Too expensive, you know, it's pretty ridiculous foods too expensive. Okay, so so, but let's get back to the topic. So how did how did you end up at the rally? But like, literally, how did I end up or like, yeah, no, I don't mean to take a like a 50 or no.
We, you know, saw that it was going to happen. Like I said, we knew that there was going to be leftist activists that were going to follow people to their cars and attack them. And we hate that. And we wanted to go to make sure it didn't happen. Is it like you and like six other pro boys or were specifically like my area we had I think we had around six guys that went
Okay, so I mean, did you know the other people were coming? Yeah, I knew other guys were going but I didn't know specifically who was going. Okay, so but I knew I've seen I was hearing and seeing other guys planning on going as well. So you guys didn't
Meet up in the woods in a big tent and plan out the blueprints of the capital guys and fatigues now. Yeah, I watched the whole I watched one of the videos was it was American school. I think it was American insurrection or something insurrection and and I just yeah, I just thought to myself this is not coordinated. This is not this is not a coordinated thing. And this is a bunch of guys even when the barricades came down like these guys.
It's not they're not flooding in there was tons of people like the barricades came to people or when people are just standing there, you know, I'm saying there's very few people that were and there were some people who are like, hey, yeah, this is wrong. You know, the people are being pushed around you're knocking out windows like this is you know, they didn't want to be a part of that. And I think the bulk of those people that were there didn't that's not what they no one intended on that. Yeah, no one intended on that. So so what happened you guys so you do you meet up with your six guys there?
Are you noticing other guys are there? Yeah, there's I mean, there's like 200,000 people there. We were alone basically, though we stayed in our own group. We're just walking around kind of patrolling the streets saying if any any left us, we're going to start attacking people.
We were far away from the Capitol. We didn't even go to the Trump speech. My guys, we didn't go. But we heard that he was going to be at the Capitol. So that's why we went to see what was going on because we heard we saw everyone moving over there. But we weren't our plans weren't to go there. We were going to go to like Black Lives Matter Square, whatever it's called, because we know they hang out there and they start like, you know, antagonizing people. That's where we were headed until we heard that there was like some commotion at the Capitol. Let's go see. So we went there. And I'll tell you, the police were the ones that instigated the entire thing.
Everyone I was around 10,000 people and everyone was peaceful seeing the national anthem. You know, I'm sorry people were singing the national anthem and were maybe people were cursing and stuff, but it wasn't like that. We were just rushing the gates and trying to attack cops. One thing led to another. We see cops all like lining up on like the little bridge there whatever it is and they have paintball guns and they're throwing flashbangs or shooting us. This is before anything started.
Everyone was like, what the hell is going on? People are getting shot in the face with paintballs, flashbangs going off. I have the video of all this. That's when it started escalating or people started to like rush the gates and start rushing police officers, because they instigated it. Nobody was causing any violence. They're the ones that started it. The DOJ knows that but they pushed this narrative like we went there with the intention to take over the Capitol and commit violence. It was absolutely firsthand experience. The cops initiated the entire thing. So okay, so once
Did you go that you went there after his speech ended? Yeah. Okay, but you didn't hear the speech? I did not hear the speech. We were not there. I don't know if any of the problems were there. I know people were there, but my group was not there. So you guys go there. By the time you got there, had the barricades come down? Yes. I didn't even know there were barricades blocking it because I didn't see it. We just saw, you know,
15,000 people walking, we just started walking with them. Yeah, no, they were obliterated. I mean, it's funny, it's not like they fell down to stay down. They were thrown all around. Yeah. And there was there was there was garbage or garbage, but there was there was debris in different spots all over the place. Yeah, it's funny, because you'd have one guy screaming and hollering at the cops. And you'd have, you know,
There's 1000 guys standing around them just standing at the barricade, but there's one guy who's like just in it in the cops face yelling and screaming and they're there with their the right ear. They're just standing there just staring at him saying nothing and the guys are screaming. They're saying all kinds of crazy stuff. But most people didn't they just you know, we're just there and it's funny because in the I watched one of these was from vice.
The worst and and they would show what this is what I didn't get because I'm nervous trying to get like clarification and they would show someone on film screaming and then they would you know, they do the whole you know, they freeze the guy's face and then they mentioned what he was charged with but I didn't see the guy had not all of them. Some of them definitely I could see like hey these guys breaking windows this guy definitely, you know jumped over a barricade whatever but for the most part
They never show what any of these guys did. So I'm wondering, how do you know what they did? Like, how do you know that this guy? How do you know to charge this guy with anything? I can see him walking in a crowd like I'm thinking, maybe he must have done something inside. But I watched the whole thing and there's never a video of this guy inside doing it. The DOJ has CCTV cameras all around the Capitol. So that's how they got, you know, the videos of what people did. So advice is not showing you everything. They're, you know, just cherry picking what videos that look good for their documentary.
Okay, I actually didn't think that the documentary was was if there are better images, I didn't think that the documentary was horrific because I'm watching and I'm like, okay, this guy was charged with something. Okay. And I'm kind of remember trying to remember his name and waiting for to see what happened. And then I never seen anything else. So by the end of the documentary, I was like, I don't understand how this guy
This guy got chart or some of these guys are that they're showing on film or getting charged. I'm not seeing what they did. So I wonder why they wouldn't have given if there's if that footage exists. I'm wondering why.
They didn't give that footage to to to to vice to to use in the in the documentary some of them absolutely like there are some guys there that are listen, they're knocking out windows. They're pushing guards. They're doing all kinds of stuff. So I'm thinking yeah, bro. What are you doing? Like like that's like, you know, it's you know, it's not acceptable. That's you can't be doing that. So yeah, you you should be charged with something. I don't know what you get charged with for that, you know.
I don't know, are these, I guess they are police officers or security guards? They're cops, they're cops. So it is, you're assaulting a police officer at that point.
But they're also they were also charged with whatever the other crime where they say you're saying there is no charge. No, no actual federal charge of insurrection. There is there it exists. It's a real charge. Okay, nobody was charged with insurrection. So what is that the there what they charge people with that was related to a riot was civil disorder. So you're involved engaged in a riot, and you are obstructing a police officer. That's basically what they charge everyone
For the ride itself, but they also here's the big one that I don't know if you remember this it's 1512 it's us code 1512 right and it's obstruction of an official proceeding. So that is a law that was created in like the 1800s to prevent someone like messing with an election integrity back when you know elections were all by hand and people could you know.
It's eighteen hundreds right right that's an old law and they charge everyone with that and it was like carries like a twenty year sentence it's a ridiculous they say we obstructed congress doing their job right so in july of last year supreme court heard that case and said hey i think it was a corsage.
Said that hey, this is a doesn't apply. This doesn't apply to what you guys are charging people with This is a way overreach. So they knocked it down So they had to remove that charge from I got charged with that too with from all the cases So it took away their heavy charge of 20 years and it dropped it down to like a regular felony of civil disorder like a five-year sentence, right? But there was also another one a seditious conspiracy
which is they're saying that like the proud boys, oath keepers, we were planning in the, you know, the woods, like you were saying with combat boots and, you know, walkie talkies. Right. But, but there was no insurrection charge. If there was no one was charged with that, if there was a plan, it was, it was not well executed. Yeah. So, oh, listen, I'm going to bring up two movies here in a minute. Because I love this stuff. But in the movies, they were much better at this than you guys. Yeah, yeah.
So so what did you do at once you guys got to the Capitol? What'd you do? You just you just walked in to see what's going on? Yeah, there's my people walking around like this. I've never been to the Capitol I've been to I've been to DC before but I've never been inside the cap or even around the Capitol So I just walked around I was looking around, you know, like just everything I was I'd never been there. I didn't know where I was going. I had no direction There's you know, there was think 800 people in there something like that. So I'm just following other people talking Talking to people talk seeing people. I know what's up, dude, you know, I
I didn't break anything. I didn't attack any police officers. The DOJ during my sentencing earlier this month was in DC. They said that I was a physical with a police officer. So the judge is like, let me see the video. You know what physical meant? That I like brushed arms with a police officer. Basically that
not purpose like I'm like walking walking by walking by we brush arms. That's the kind of little things that the DOJ date the DOJ does to exaggerate and make it seem like there's some violent person. So all over the news are saying at some point, Nathan was physical police officers. Well, so you make me look bad. But the actual thing was me like rubbing rubbing my arm against police officer, right on accident, no intent to hurt this person.
So and I don't know what's going on. That's exactly where I'm going. It's like, so you you walked in. What did you where did you go in in the building? I don't remember. What is the name of the building? What am I thinking? It's the Capitol, right? It's the Capitol. So the Senate chambers, the Congress. Right. I don't know where I was. I don't know. I don't know the direction that I went. I was walking to the hallways, walking past offices and stuff. I had no idea where I was going.
By the time that you got there, were there people like guarding the doors or was it pretty much just like, Hey, there were cops standing by the doors. They were doing like, there were cops standing by the doors and they were doing like a semi.
You know, everybody everyone get out everyone needs to get out, you know, everyone needs to get out But it wasn't like there's you know, there were riot cops standing eventually after like maybe a half-hour bunch of riot cops came out And they were trying to push everyone out That's when they started getting physical and using their shields to push everyone out But initially I saw cops like in a hall. I was talking to cops in hallways They were just standing there where people were just discussing talking about you know, how how messed up the election was things like that I didn't in the Capitol. I didn't see one police officer attacked or hit or anything. It was just like
Cops kind of knew, all right, it's kind of out of control now, but there's nothing we can do. Let's just wait till this is over. So yeah, it was much more peaceful than they're trying to make it appear. So what, well, I mean, you're saying like you didn't have an actual, you guys didn't have an actual conversation. What do you think that, it's so, you know, I hate to say it. Do you ever hear George, George Carlson?
Carlin Carlin, George Carlin, I think it's George Carlin, Gary, where he explains he's like, you know, you don't, in order for there to be a conspiracy, you don't have a have to have to have a formal consensus, right? As long as all of your goals are in line with one another, right? So we don't have to get together and have a conversation. As long as our all of our goals are this. And I think that that's kind of the consensus of the the government as far as conspiracies are concerned.
But even within your group, you didn't have a conversation. I was separated from my group. Were you with your dad? Yeah, my dad was there, but we got separated. So I walked in, I got in, and they were still outside. So I went in, they went around, wherever they went, they walked in through open doors. There's a video of it. They just literally walked in through open doors.
And there was no consensus, it was just unfolding so rapidly. We didn't really know what was going on. I was just like, oh my God, like this is this is crazy. Like I'm in the Capitol right now. And there was no consensus or plan to do it. The government, like you said, has this idea that
Everyone had the idea to go in there and stop the election of Joe Biden. Right. By that point, it had already happened. Yeah, I think it was this was like 214 or something that the initial breach and they did it at like noon. Right. The vice president had already certified the election, right? It's called like, and I guess Trump was hoping that he wouldn't certify it. But you know, you're being presented with
You bring being presented with documents that appear to be perfectly legit, regardless of whether they are or not, or it comes out later. This is what seems legit. These are these senators have signed off on this or their governor, whatever is everybody signed off that's supposed to sign off. Like, I'm not sure what he was supposed to do. You know, you may have a different opinion, but I'm not sure like,
If my job entails that I have to make sure that all of these are are certified and signed by the proper people and they are well then that happens then I have to say that this is this is the result of the election then that's what I have to do you know that's that's it so I know I don't think at least I can speak for my group but I can speak for a lot of people no one had the intention of going there to stop Mike Pence from certifying the election right first of all I didn't even know they were they were doing that or had done that right then and there I didn't know what time they were doing that right um
And I know that there's, it's impossible to stop that. You're not, what are, what are the, the, the, or is the DOJ, I know they're not under, I'm just, it's a rhetorical question. Do they think that we're that stupid, that we are going to occupy the Capitol, take over the government for the next four years until we bring Trump back? That's a ridiculous notion. That's the, that's what they pushed. And like you said earlier, if we plan to do this, it was poorly executed, but if we re, if we really did,
It would have been way worse. It would have been way worse if it was a real plan to do it and the government would have intervened before it happened. Yeah, but not just that, you know, let's face it. If this is part of the plan, I'm bringing weapons. I'm not going in with my cell phone. I'm not going to be going in and push a bunch of Capitol police officers with my hands when they're fully armed. I don't see anybody pulling weapons or doing anything like that.
One of my good friends was he said he's on video walking around with a beer and a cigarette, right? Really, you're taking over the Capitol with a beer and a cigarette. I mean, it looks cool. But come on. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there are guys that are that are live streaming. There are guys that are doing everything. The one guy comes with the horns and sits down and everything like stop it. That's not how you're taking over the Capitol. Yeah, like that was the iconic look. It's an iconic look. Yeah, listen, it's a great photo, but it's not.
Listen, for one thing, if you were going to have that meeting, and this guy said, Yeah, this is what I'm wearing tomorrow. It would be like, No, you're not. We're sending you home. Yeah, we're gonna look come back. This is not a look we want to go with. It's just shirt off. His face painted or whatever. Um, but I just said, Did you see the movie? Oh, God, come on Civil War.
Civil War. Obviously, you didn't see it. I already know you didn't see it because if you'd seen it, you'd be like, yes. Yeah, but I'm thinking, I know there's a Marvel movie called Civil War. No, this is, are you serious? How old is this movie? It's like a year ago. It just came out? Yes. Can I look this up? Let me look this up real quick. You didn't see it. I'm telling you right here. I don't know. If it came out last year, I didn't see it. No. The overall premise is that, and this is how it's like so
It's so convoluted, which bothers me. It's so like this is the this is obviously this is a year ago, right? This is before the election. And this is when everybody we did a video called talking about a potential civil war, which got Did you ask them to review that? I want to watch them so I can tell our lady this part. Great, because we could repost that at some point. Oh, all right. I don't think
I'll leave this question in here because I think people watching I see I feel like if they see a repost, they'll you know, they get upset. Yeah, bro. Yeah, it's gonna but it was it got it got limited money. You don't know anything about YouTube probably but not really. So we have videos that get fully monetized and we have some to get limited monetization or which is basically might as well we typically say demonetized. Okay. Okay. Because you get if you were going to make a dollar you're now making like 15 cents. So it's basically useless.
That video, because we talked about a potential civil war, it got it got demonetized, they got limited monetization, like it was and there was nothing in that video. But this conversation right here, this about it, depending on what magic
Colby does, there's probably 50% chance this thing gets. We've already mentioned some horrible things that YouTube doesn't want anything to do with our argument, even just saying this, this episode here, 50% chance. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, even though he'll, sorry, Colby will go in and beep out all kinds of stuff, and he'll do all kinds of stuff. But in that movie, what happens is listen to the premise of the movie. Is it California? And Texas? And I want to say maybe Florida?
I forget, break off. And they, they try and separate from the United States. Can you imagine California and Texas decide they're going to form their own, their own country, Florida, Texas, but not exactly. That's that, that I get. And I figured they called what they call their thing. They want to, they want to separate. There's a president in, but you don't know he's, and he's serving his third term.
So I'm saying so they're trying to do a whole parallels are trying to draw here. Yes. And so what happens is obviously the California Texas thing they break off. Well, there's a civil war and they're in they've they've been winning and they're actually entering the capital. And so I would say out of the budget the movie which I think is pretty good. I think once it's like 50 if 40 or 50 million because I remember thing and this is
Let's say 80% of the movie is just not great, right? I mean, not that it's not great. It's okay. It's just not what you expect. I'm expecting a lot more battle. It's not it there's some little little skirmishes here and there in towns and stuff. But when they get to the capital where these guys are coming in the capital,
It's a great movie. Like, it becomes really good. I have to watch it. I mean, I watched it tonight, probably. If you sleep hot at night, you know how disruptive that can be. Whether you're having trouble falling asleep, you're waking up sweating in the middle of the night, or all of the above, that's where GhostBed can help. As the makers of the coolest beds in the world, GhostBed is your go-to for cooling mattresses, cooling pillows, and cooling bedding.
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Conserve there is no no one side these are the conservatives and liberal or it's not like that you really is very ambiguous you don't know who's what you just give no cock but but it's interesting what's happening how people reacting in small towns and one of the scenes is.
these people stumble into a small town where they get grabbed hold of by a National Guard unit or something. And apparently there's a there's a fraction faction of them who have essentially they're they've dug a huge ditch and it's filled with bodies like they're just cleaning house. And of course, it's a bunch of white guys doing this horrific thing. Because you know, it can't be the reverse. Yeah, of course. Yeah. So. So that's what's acceptable. And of course, they execute a one or two guys at that during that time. And
And that is it's a it's a that's a kind of a troubling scene.
But the movie overall, it's interesting. It could have been probably great if they really made the distinctions, you know what I mean? But they didn't want to take that on. That's one movie. It's kind of implied though. If all the white guys are doing the bad stuff, it's kind of implied. Yeah, well, you have to. Here's the problem. You don't know who that is though. You don't know, is that the Texas, California coming in? Or is that the American military?
You that's the whole thing when you get there, you don't know. Alright, so I'll watch it and then I'll try to formulate an opinion on Yeah, it's pretty good. I would shave probably 15 minutes off the movie and it could have been there could have been some better stuff. But yeah, it was it was pretty good. That was one movie and I can't remember what the other movie was. But either way, these were these were well formulated. I think the other one is if you ever see Come on, Matt, it's called a handmaid's tale.
No, I've seen the like clips of it with these women are dressed in like red like red dresses and stuff. Are you serious? What do you do? I don't I don't want your time. I don't watch movies that much. First of all, it's a toddler. It's a series. It's not a movie. It's a series and it is a phenomenal series. It's on Hulu, which nobody has probably be out of business by the end of this podcast. But the point is, is that it's it's a great series. And what happens is
And I love that they base it all on things current events, where it's basically like, because this is really happening. I'm sure you've heard this that you know, male testosterone is dropping dramatically over the last 50 years, right? Like we're, and we're not producing kids as much, we're not like there's all kinds of things. And it's funny, because if you ever watch like scientists and stuff, you always hear about how overpopulation the truth is, we've got about another
10 years of expansion, maybe 20. And then our population is going to start taking a complete nosedive, right, just statistically. So the whole Oh, we're going to use up our resources. No, no, we're going to have in 50 years, we're gonna have a major fucking problem in the in not just this country everywhere, because other countries are already starting to shrink. So but what they say is look that basically women stop being able to have children.
This is what the show is about. And that's what sparks the United States. There is a coup, a military coup in the United States. They take over and they start going through system and they drop back to a very, very radicalized Christian fundamentalists that pull things from the Old Testament and
They come up with this religion that sweeps the country and they execute tons of people. People are fleeing to Canada, believe it or not. So they're fleeing to Canada and of course most people don't flee at all because they get caught here. But they end up breaking it the whole society into, you know, women make up three different, there's like three classes of women, there's
men, there are certain families that have that are part of like, this group that's running the whole thing. And it women can't learn to read and write like it's a whole thing. And the women that can still have children become handmaids. So if you're a member of the government, and you have a wife that you love, and you're a prominent member of the government, then you get to have a handmaid and you get to get her pregnant, the old fashioned way.
And she has babies for you. And then she has a baby and goes to another family. And that's how they're having children. Now, most of the world is disgusted by what's happening. But after a few years, they come to grips with our population, like Mexico comes and they're like, how are you? Why are you willing to deal with the American or this? Whatever? I forget the name of the country. Why are you dealing with that? They're like, we haven't had a child born in our country in 15 years. Mom, we're, we're devastated.
So but the it's about being a handmaid and the whole thing and listen super interesting, but the whole thing my wife has watched. Oh, I've seen clips of it. Yeah, but it's how they take over it talks about how they take over and that sort of thing. Let's decide great movie. Anyway, you might hate it. I've seen a lot of I mean leftist women online complaining about it like oh my god, Trump is gonna turn everything into the handmaid's table. So ridiculous. I love it like cuz that's what he did last time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
All right, so let's get back to this. I'm sort of sure Colby's gonna be like this motherfucker all over the place. So you come in, you walk around, you have an unguided tour of the Capitol. What happens at what point do you ever get arrested or you just go home? No, we went home after that. Like the once we realized that there's a bunch of a bunch of like riot cops like surrounding us were like, I will leave. Yeah, so we walked out, you know, on our own and we walked back to our our hotel.
and went to the airport. Did you break anything? No, I didn't break anything. Did you take anything? There's some nice paintings. Didn't take it didn't break it. And we just went back to hotel we actually went to Applebee's after that. Had a couple had a couple brews and then went back to hotel and then went home the next day.
What I'm telling you is basically the full extent of what happened, at least from my group. When you go into the Capitol, are you thinking anything? I'm in awe at that point. I'm like, oh my God, this is historic. There's a protest inside the Capitol, a part of this. It's just so crazy. It's so cool.
I was looking around like looking at the statues and the paintings and you know, it was history. I'm like, this is really cool. Do you have any conversations with your buddies? Like, yeah, they're, they're gonna re certify it or this not there. Nothing about that. No zero about that before, during after zero conversations about any kind of interruption in the the election.
It's just like, hey, this is just insanity. I can't believe that this just happened. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. You go to Applebee's, you have some chicken fajitas, mozzarella sticks, mozzarella sticks and beer. And then you guys what you drive all the way back to Florida? No, we drove to I think our flight was out of Virginia or Baltimore or something.
I was there. What about there? I don't know. I pictured a convoy. I think no. Yeah, we're like humvees. Yeah, these are blacked out SUVs. Or some some Toyota's with the with the Hilux and Toyota Hilux. Yeah, with a little machine gun in the back of 50 cal. So you fly.
We flew back. We were nervous like going back to the airport and even going back to the hotel. We're like, oh man, we're nervous like because we're hearing people already getting arrested like at the airport and stuff people are getting picked up already. So we're like, oh man, this is we're going to get arrested. So it was it was a little scary at first. But I mean, that was basically it. We flew back. Well, I mean, I'm assuming you didn't get a letter in the mail asking you for you to stop by the FBI office. No, no, I
Months went by I was always kind of nervous about it like oh man Maybe I'm gonna get caught but I had a mask on the whole time like maybe I'm not you know and Months went by and you feel like you've done something wrong if you're feeling like that you feel like well listen My opinion I'm gonna I did nothing wrong. I walked in it was a protest certain points got out of hand certain people did things that I wouldn't have done and
But it was not, I didn't do it. I didn't hurt anyone. I was just walking around in a building that I've paid for with my tax dollars for all my adult life. Um, the reason why I was nervous is because everyone was getting picked up. So I'm like, man, I'm going to get picked up for this. You know, I'm, I'm, I was nervous not because I felt like I was ashamed of it, but because, uh, you know, what if I lose my job? You know, what if I go to jail for this many years? So I was nervous about that. So July, I think it was July 15th, 2021, I am going to work
I get out of my vehicle. I have my lunch in my hand, my briefcase, and I'm walking into the office right before I get to the doors, like 30, 30 unmarks pull up. They all get out in their gear. They get me on the ground in the parking lot. And my entire staff was watching other offices were watching like it was just a big fiasco. You had the, you had the FBI there. You had, I think the marshals are there. You had a FHP, a bunch of different other city, city police officers.
And so I got arrested and I'm talking to them like, why did you guys do this at my job? I was like, was this intentional? And they're like, no, no, no, it's because you have a history as law enforcement. So we know you have guns. I was like, you could have surrounded my house and called me to come outside and I would have surrendered immediately. So you didn't have to do this, but they insist. That's what that's what it was. It was purely for safety. So yeah, I got arrested. They took me back to the FBI office in Maitland, which is near Orlando. Tried to smooth me over like, man, you know, you're really good shape. Talk to us about what you do for your diet and workouts.
If you're legitimately interested I'll tell you I was like, but if you're trying to do this like try to get me to interview with you Just be nice to me as it's not gonna work. I don't know we're interested So I BS with them for like 15 minutes then like I'll miss you a question about January 6. I was like, nope I said we're done. Let's take me to jail. It's like, alright, they took they took me to the federal jail in Orlando. I spent maybe like a
10 hours in there. No big deal. Did they give you I mean, they initially appoint you a public defender? Yeah, initially the first day. Yeah. And then I hired an attorney after that with a public defender say, just don't say anything. Just be quiet. You're gonna have a bunch of media outside. Don't say anything to them. Just let me do all the talking. And you just when you get out, walk to your car, get a ride and go home. That's what I did.
I regret it now. I wish I would have been mean outside, but I wasn't. I'll be telling the lawyer, don't say anything. They disappointed you to me. God knows what you're going to say. Well, he was cool. He did what he had to do. They're usually pretty good. The federal defenders. So then you go out and get a regular attorney? Yeah, a regular attorney. And he was involved already with other J-6ers, so I got him.
What's he saying? They were both on our side. Like this is total BS. Like this is totally being exaggerated. If this was a leftist protest, it would have been just like a trespassing charge that you pay a certain fine. That's it. Boom, you're done. But they're overdoing this because it was related to Trump and because it was right wingers, you know, right? There's a political bias, especially in DC. DC is all leftist. They were on our side and saying, you know,
It was kind of grim at first, like they're like, you know, it's, you're going to get some prison time probably, and it's probably going to be, you know, in the area of, you know, two to five years. So I was preparing myself mentally for it, that I was going to go to prison, but I didn't think Trump was going to win the election, to be honest with you. Are you serious? I didn't think he was. I mean, fairly, if it was fair, yes, but I thought they were going to pull a little bait and switch and Harris was going to win. So I was not optimistic about, I was going to jail, like I had to turn myself in in March.
So I knew I was going to jail, but my boy Trump came through and say, how, how bad does this chick have to feel? Honestly? I mean, think about it. Like, first of all, I don't even understand who Harris Harris, like, I don't even understand the numbers. Because if you do the numbers, like more people voted four years ago. Yeah, 15 million more. Yeah, that doesn't even like the numbers don't even make sense. Like, first of all,
I think you're talking about this. There's a chart that I've seen online. It's like from Bush times. It's like 63 million and then it goes to Obama and it's like, you know, 68 million and then it goes to
to Obama again, 67 million, then it goes to Trump, 67 million, then it goes to Biden, it's like 85 million, then back down to Kamala, 65 million. So it's like straight line almost for the last 20 years, and then Joe Biden, 15 million more, and then they just disappear. Well, it's not even a straight line. It's that more and more people, in general, more and more people vote every single year. But in this election, it dropped.
Yeah, how is that possible? Like millions, 15 million is not possible. So that that tip to me that statistic helps the idea of ballot stuffing, you know, and a rigged election. But regardless, that's irrelevant. Yeah, it's it's that's not going to be readdressed by anybody. So and that's not the reason why I went to DC. Right, right. And I went there. I personally believe there are some not going to say it was I mean, I believe that it was it was stolen. But let's just say
I'll say that there were there circumstances like that and evidence that is things that are not questions have not been answered and Everyone refused to answer them weird things like that, but I didn't go to DC on January 6 to protest that okay, I went there to Defend the people who are walking back to their cars and got caught up in a protest and then I got upset and then I sort of protesting because of what people were getting shot at and like these are peaceful people getting shot at with paintballs and stuff. So anyway, I digress go ahead. Yeah. Well, um, I
No, I mean, I see that I just think so. So you so once you get the lawyer, you got out on what bond signature bond? Yeah. Or I know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Signature bond. Okay. I mean, they give you they say it's like $50,000. But you basically walk out. Yeah. Yeah. So you get the lawyer lawyer saying you're going to do some time. Do you feel like you should have done it? You don't feel like you should nothing.
I'm sorry, you feel like you should have done some time. You're like, no, I don't feel like I don't know. Okay, I walk through some open doors walk through the place. Exactly. Maybe somebody else is breaking windows and stuff. I'm just walking around. If the DOJ had been fair to begin with, because you see you've seen these leftists burn down these cities and they'll get a slap on the wrist. Six months probation, you threw a molotov cocktail on a Starbucks six months probation. Yeah, come on. Or you know, you threw a rock a brick at a cop or we're gonna give you three months incarceration, one year probation.
I've had a list of it stacked up because I was trying to create this evidence that it's a political bias, prosecutorial bias. And I've seen this for years, for the last eight years that Antifa and all of them were getting these baby sentences. And if the DOJ had been fair with me from the beginning,
And says, we're going to charge you with trespassing. We're going to offer you three months incarceration and, you know, two years probation. I'd have been like, I cool. You got me fair. I'll take it. I wouldn't have been, I wouldn't have complained about it. You have guys going to prison for 22 years, like Enrique Tario. He was sentenced to 22 years and he wasn't even there.
17 years for this guys who just walked in walked out yet like women who are in their 70s with cancer We're gonna give them eight months incarceration five years probation. Come on, dude It was it's totally overblown. The judges were in on it because they were Chastising people, you know, hopefully you make better decisions in this and that in this
So it was over. That's why I feel like I shouldn't have done any time. If they were fair with me at first, I would have been like, cool, let's do it. I'm totally agree to it. But after that, I'm like, no, what are them? What they come come to you with? Initially seven years. So seven years initially, that was like two years ago, they offered me that I said no, I'm like, I'm not going to take seven years, I'm not going to stay away from my kid for seven years, right? Because I can't even know who I am by the time I get out.
Um, and then I like a year, year later, July, they dropped that big charge, the 1512. It dropped that. So now the guidelines went down. So it wasn't seven years. They said, we're going to give you up to 24 months. So I said, okay, I'll take that.
So we went to sentencing January 8th and they asked for 24 months. The judge gave me 14 months and I had to turn myself in in March. I was cool with that. I was cool with that. I said, I'll do that. That's, that's a slap on the wrist. Basically. It's, you know, what everybody else is. Yeah, I can eat that 14 months. Um, but Trump came through. So wait a minute. You were, that was in March. You were sentenced. I was sentenced in January. I had to turn myself in this March. Oh, this one. Yeah. I was sentenced a couple of weeks ago.
I thought you were saying you did say last July or whatever July they dropped the big charges right September I pled guilty because they changed the plea deal after that because oh they don't have the big charge anymore September changed the plea deal. I accepted it January 8th was my sentencing a couple weeks ago and March 8th, I had to turn myself in 14 months in Coleman. I was gonna go to Coleman. Yeah, you were gonna what Coleman low or the low
Yeah, I think I said Coleman low, which I was prepared to do. I had a bunch of friends in there. And I was like, that's gonna be easy, man. 14 months is easy. You went to high school, right? Yeah, same thing. Oh, well, that sounds like it's not like it's it's like a it's like a tough high school. Yeah, you know, that's that bad. Yeah, it's not it's not bad. You know, there's fistfights and guys talk about each other. And it's just all bullshit. So I go into the pen. Yeah, you would have gone there and been like, you know, guys have been like,
Yeah, I had friends there that we I was talking to them like, yeah, well, I guess we're gonna and some of my other friends were getting sentenced or sent there too. So I'm like, this is gonna be really fun. Yeah. So what happened when I mean, did you? So you didn't think that Trump was gonna? I did not. I did not. On November, I did not. I was stressed about it. Like, man, I'm gonna have to go to prison. This sucks. At the time, I didn't know what I was gonna get. I knew it would be up to two years, right? This is gonna suck. I don't want to go to prison.
Um, but Trump won. I could not believe it. I got hammered. I think I drank until like six a.m. And I just passed out and like so happy. So, I mean, did you and he had said he was gonna, he was gonna pardon all the January Sixers. He, he did. I don't think he ever said those words specifically, but he always alluded to, you know, I'm, I'm inclined to pardon them. Let me look at the cases. He never explicitly said it. So I was kind of like, man, maybe he's just like trying to, you know,
Not piss off, you know the the moderates but also not not piss off the people who support him, right? So I was always like man, maybe he's gonna do it a couple months in or I'll be like, you know before he leaves You know prep the presidency but man day one dude. Yeah, I can't believe it Yeah, how'd you find out like I was watching it live dude I was watching it live and I sat there all day watching it. I was you know, drinking a beer watching it all day and
And once it came out, I think it was like seven or eight o'clock that he signed the pardon for 1500 people. I was like, oh dude, pass the bottle, man. I was so excited, man. Did you get a letter or anything? Not yet. I had to apply for the actual documents a couple days ago. They sent me an email for it. So I have to apply for it. But as of now, the pardon is real. Like it exists. He signed it.
But I'm still like, it's processing right now. So I'm not out of the woods, technically. I'd still like to have a copy. You might want to get that framed. Yeah, I'm gonna blow it up. Yeah, I'm gonna blow it up huge and frame it on my wall. Did you, so I have a question. Once you got, you sign out, I'm sorry, you bond out and you lost your job, right? That one, I didn't lose the job. I didn't lose it. I talked to my boss and he's like,
them like, you know, like, no, you're I'm not I'm not firing you. So I didn't lose my job. But once I pled guilty, and I became a felon, I had to quit because I couldn't be hired, I couldn't have a license to the state. So I resigned because I, you know, right, I was gonna get fired anyway. But this is only a few months, September. Okay. Um, and, okay, so
What did you do from there? My buddy, through friends, had side work. I've been doing okay. Are you thinking about going back to that employer? You resigned, it's not his fault. He kept you on that whole time. Yeah, they want me back, but I'm not sure what I'm gonna do yet. I don't know what career decision I want to pursue.
But we'll see because I'm just happy to be done with this. I was gonna say like I was in when Obama did the he signed a bunch of they weren't they weren't pardons. They were clemencies, right? Yeah, where he gave a bunch of you know, these guys would get letters in the mail, you know, some of their lawyers would get notified. They don't they knew beforehand, but they would get a letter in the mail and stuff like that. And they're like they do walking around the like, I got this in the mail, you know, yeah.
Yeah, I was gonna say they kind of fucked that up. The first bunch that they did, they just let them out. And these guys are coming right back to prison like this guy's been locked up 15 years, you just let them out. You can't do that. So then the second wave they came back, they said, No, no,
you have to go from the pen where you've been for 15 years, you actually just let you out into society. I can't just let a rabid dog into a playground, you know, say, so then they had them go, they would actually bring them from here, they go to the medium for six months, then they go to the low for six months. And some of them, they said, you got to pass our DAP first, which is a drug program. And then they let them out. And those guys had a much easier time. Someone would transition. Yeah, you can't just let some guy who's been, you
So when you after that, here's what I'm wondering, after you got out and you're still at work,
Did you like why didn't you and this may seem ridiculous. Maybe you did this. I don't know. I don't think so though. Why didn't you start like a YouTube channel or tick-tock or something like that? Some of these guys have done that right the reason. Well, the reason why I didn't do that is because I was working there still and I didn't even though my job that particular office wasn't going to fire me. It was I don't let me say this correctly.
We're still under a certain company and that company I don't I never wanted them to find out because I didn't want I don't want to be fired. So that's why I tried to lay low I deleted social media and all that because I didn't want my name to get out there because as soon as I got arrested the next day I had people emailing my job like oh my god you you have I don't even know how they found my email my work email they're like how you hire January Sixers a violent terrorist and I got a bunch of emails and my boss is getting emails and like
So that's why I want to lay low. I want to take heat off my job and I did successfully for years, right? So that's the reason why maybe I will now who knows? Yeah, I was gonna say we got I would say just to kind of follow up on that like what would you say because I'm sure this video will probably have some like people that come come to the comment section are like this guy's a
I don't care. I don't I really don't care what you think if you're if you're mad at me Go fuck yourself. Sorry. Yeah, I you know, the problem is is that the comment section is
There are already people that have made their minds up and it doesn't matter if you explain the situation to them. They've decided that you're a scumbag. I mean, look, I did 13 years in prison, you know what I'm saying? Committed a ton of fucking bank fraud. And I get, you know, and even though out of all my, my victims, the bulk of them are banks. There's, I think I have like four.
Uh, individual victims, people that lost money, like a doctor who had to pay like 12 grand to a lawyer to because I, I changed his title. So he had to go through the courts to change that, you know, and by all means, you know, absolutely, you know, it was a scumbag thing. I mean to do absolutely. Um, he didn't do anything wrong. So he certainly didn't bring it on himself. His biggest mistake was that he just happened to cross my path. Yeah. You know, um, does that make me a scumbag? Yeah, it makes me a scumbag, you know, but
I get people in the comments who will apparently watch the video and say that I stole from old people that like they in their mind.
they've got an entire narrative that never happened. Yeah. And I realized it took me a little bit to realize like, there's some people that you, it doesn't matter if you show them the facts and really explain the situation to them, they've made their mind up and they've made that decision and there's nothing you can say. Absolutely. So, you know, I feel bad for those people and you know, that's all you can, you know, that's, that's your take on it. And there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
I'm at you're 100% right. I'm at the point though that I don't really care. Like if you don't like me, you're mad at me. I can care less if you are. I'm just a regular guy. I have a wife. I have a son. I was a cop for you know, nine years and I've been a good a good upstanding citizen, you know, and that
to me was a patriotic day, and I'm not going to let people shame me into like, you know, being reclusive and hiding and stuff. I'm not going to hide. I have nothing to hide. So hey, you guys appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button. By the way, I'm going to leave Nate's email address in the description box if you want to reach out to him.
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"text": " The media needs that white supremacist boogeyman because they've been talking about it for years. Right. They need that, which is the greatest threat to civilization. I mean, no, it's not. It's ridiculous. Right. They even say that. But no, it's not. The problem is not a white supremacist group. You know, are some of them unapologetically like pro-white, like, yeah, white families, but you should be that no matter what you are, you know, pro whatever you are. Yeah. It's okay if you're black and you say you're pro-black. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So that's acceptable."
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"text": " Yeah, they make that that acceptable, but you're pro white, which you should be no matter what race you are pro your people. But the group itself is not a white nationalist organization. Okay, so how did you get involved with them? Like, I just emailed them. Okay. Yeah, I saw him on the streets in 2018. At a Trump event. So I emailed him. That's how I got in. Okay. And I mean,"
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"text": " you know, majority of them that I met are jam up awesome guys, and the guys locally in my in the Orlando area, we work out together, we go to church together, we, you know, go to the bars together. And we basically it's just camaraderie thing. You know, it's a support the support system for men like minded men. Okay. And so you, you were so you're not retired, whatever you quit the police department. And it doesn't pay, right? Like, there's not like pay"
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"text": " You're fascist in your, you know, your, you know, one race, but you could have fascism in any country could be there. This is true. Right. There's fascism in, in Africa, there could be it could be in Africa, Europe, it could be actually, you know, who's also is Japan, right? Like, anybody? Yeah, I would say El Salvador today is probably the closest thing to fascism that we have. Maybe not 100%, but it's the closest thing that we have. Right? It's a they've, they've eradicated"
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"text": " You're right, bro. I got my my DNA thing back. I'm going I got I just got my DNA thing back. I'm going to I'm going to go to Norway right now because I'm you know, or Sweden because of actually this one says I'm 60 something percent Swedish. So, you know, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and go back to one of these Nordic countries like that's not happening. Nobody's doing that. So stop complaining. I think to go you said something like like a couple minutes ago that they write history books a certain way and the Victor always writes the history of course."
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"text": " That nobody ever talks about like war in general is brutal. You know, these are brutal people brutal times brutal things have to happen. So but okay, so we were yeah, we were talking about World War Two and how these horrific things happen. So how but so let's go back to all of the the events that that led up to"
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"text": " Um, I hate the segue there, bro. It's a horrible segue. It's fucking horrible. I feel like that's like, yeah, bro. That's horrible. It's it's I mean, it's it's we're talking about fascism and Antifa and all that. That's a horrible. So that's not true. Oh, yeah. Okay, now I know fascism. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll probably come down a little bit of those stories and try to if you're going to roll with fascism."
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"text": " Yeah, yeah, I think I think that the comparison and fascism had had it not had not been connected to had not been connected to the Holocaust, then it probably wouldn't have this horrific because people loved they loved fascism up until"
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"text": " World War two and the Holocaust and then it got this it was got that connection and then it was over I'm gonna give you my opinion on this. Okay. Okay So I think the reason why fascism is so has such a bad from the both left and the right It's the only thing left and the right agree on is fascism is bad. I think it's because during the time Mussolini Hitler and you know, the doing that was in the thirties is that they arrested the bankers right and they shut down central banks in Germany and I think it was in"
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"text": " can't remember the other country. But several countries, they shut down banks. Italy was one of them. But there was another one, too. And I can't remember the other one. But it's all in that area of Europe. But they shut down these banks and they arrested the Rothschilds. Okay. When you arrest the Rothschilds, which are still like the richest family in the universe, you start stepping on toes, right? And when you you cause the international banks to lose so much money, because you're shutting down banks in Europe, big banks in Europe, that"
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"text": " That's when I think they started to get upset. Oh, we got to get rid of this fascism thing because they're shutting down banks and now we're losing, you know, billions of dollars. So I think that's why they started shifting towards we got to start making this this ideology, even though it was looked at as like ultra nationalism. We have to make this ideology distasteful in people's mouths. And I think that's when it started to change. But yeah, the Holocaust didn't help. I think the initial thing though was the rusting the Rothschilds and messing with the international banks. Okay."
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"text": " They have like a Model T up always in the somewhere over the bar. The food is good too. Yeah, the food is great. But I always think to myself like this guy was he was a huge anti-Semite like and now there's four there's like nobody ever says that like they're you're taking down statues of of you know Robert E Lee but you're eating at Ford's. I mean, there's so many things like that. It's like"
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"text": " The truth, I can't imagine you would keep any record of whatever really happened. We'll probably just never know. Yeah. So, okay, so, so that's what you're thinking that it's a it's a whole the bankers are behind it. I think the bankers are behind everything. Okay, I think everything that is, it's manipulated by the interest of the international bankers. Oh, my gosh, what's the guy? I forget his name. I won't get his name right. Anyway, you might know him. He's a little guy like us."
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"text": " Um, he's a billionaire. He does these, he does these, uh, whatever big conferences and stuff where he gets up and talking or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you might, I think you might be right. Um, you know, he's horribly crass, but the, I love that there's a woman who gets up and kind of confronts him and starts yelling about a global warming. And he says, listen, it's, it's a fraud. It's the biggest fraud that's ever been perpetrated."
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"text": " On on a society and she's like, you know, and and she's screaming at him. He's like, listen, he's like, do you think that if that was true, you'd be able to get a loan on a piece of land or business anywhere in Florida? Since I was in I've told my wife this multiple times. When I was in school, we had we had our science books talked about how by the year 2000. It's like it was like 50% of Florida would be gone. Yeah."
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"text": " But the fact is for you to continually believe that in the next 10 years or 50 years or whatever, I don't know about you, but it's cold as fuck right now in Florida. You know, there's all those TikToks that come out and said, look,"
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"text": " Trump just became president. He already fixed global warming. It's snowing in Florida. They had nine inches of snow in North Florida. Yeah, it's crazy. It's nuts. Like you can't you can't determine what's happening with some and you certainly can't believe that people writing these books and you certainly can't believe the the press. Did you see the thing that just came out where there's a whistleblower that says that Kamala Harris"
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"text": " was given all the questions to the debate with Trump prior to that. I saw that. That's why she was so she was good during the debate. Yeah, but like on a regular interview, she sucks. Right. That's why she wouldn't go on Joe Rogan. Yep. I'm gonna talk to Joe Rogan. Yeah. And he probably honestly, Rogan, I think would have been very fair. He would have probably asked her just like, and he wouldn't they asked him about that. He was like,"
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"text": " Too expensive, you know, it's pretty ridiculous foods too expensive. Okay, so so, but let's get back to the topic. So how did how did you end up at the rally? But like, literally, how did I end up or like, yeah, no, I don't mean to take a like a 50 or no."
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"text": " We, you know, saw that it was going to happen. Like I said, we knew that there was going to be leftist activists that were going to follow people to their cars and attack them. And we hate that. And we wanted to go to make sure it didn't happen. Is it like you and like six other pro boys or were specifically like my area we had I think we had around six guys that went"
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"text": " Okay, so I mean, did you know the other people were coming? Yeah, I knew other guys were going but I didn't know specifically who was going. Okay, so but I knew I've seen I was hearing and seeing other guys planning on going as well. So you guys didn't"
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"text": " Meet up in the woods in a big tent and plan out the blueprints of the capital guys and fatigues now. Yeah, I watched the whole I watched one of the videos was it was American school. I think it was American insurrection or something insurrection and and I just yeah, I just thought to myself this is not coordinated. This is not this is not a coordinated thing. And this is a bunch of guys even when the barricades came down like these guys."
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"text": " It's not they're not flooding in there was tons of people like the barricades came to people or when people are just standing there, you know, I'm saying there's very few people that were and there were some people who are like, hey, yeah, this is wrong. You know, the people are being pushed around you're knocking out windows like this is you know, they didn't want to be a part of that. And I think the bulk of those people that were there didn't that's not what they no one intended on that. Yeah, no one intended on that. So so what happened you guys so you do you meet up with your six guys there?"
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"text": " Are you noticing other guys are there? Yeah, there's I mean, there's like 200,000 people there. We were alone basically, though we stayed in our own group. We're just walking around kind of patrolling the streets saying if any any left us, we're going to start attacking people."
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"text": " We were far away from the Capitol. We didn't even go to the Trump speech. My guys, we didn't go. But we heard that he was going to be at the Capitol. So that's why we went to see what was going on because we heard we saw everyone moving over there. But we weren't our plans weren't to go there. We were going to go to like Black Lives Matter Square, whatever it's called, because we know they hang out there and they start like, you know, antagonizing people. That's where we were headed until we heard that there was like some commotion at the Capitol. Let's go see. So we went there. And I'll tell you, the police were the ones that instigated the entire thing."
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"text": " Everyone I was around 10,000 people and everyone was peaceful seeing the national anthem. You know, I'm sorry people were singing the national anthem and were maybe people were cursing and stuff, but it wasn't like that. We were just rushing the gates and trying to attack cops. One thing led to another. We see cops all like lining up on like the little bridge there whatever it is and they have paintball guns and they're throwing flashbangs or shooting us. This is before anything started."
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"text": " Everyone was like, what the hell is going on? People are getting shot in the face with paintballs, flashbangs going off. I have the video of all this. That's when it started escalating or people started to like rush the gates and start rushing police officers, because they instigated it. Nobody was causing any violence. They're the ones that started it. The DOJ knows that but they pushed this narrative like we went there with the intention to take over the Capitol and commit violence. It was absolutely firsthand experience. The cops initiated the entire thing. So okay, so once"
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"text": " Did you go that you went there after his speech ended? Yeah. Okay, but you didn't hear the speech? I did not hear the speech. We were not there. I don't know if any of the problems were there. I know people were there, but my group was not there. So you guys go there. By the time you got there, had the barricades come down? Yes. I didn't even know there were barricades blocking it because I didn't see it. We just saw, you know,"
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"text": " 15,000 people walking, we just started walking with them. Yeah, no, they were obliterated. I mean, it's funny, it's not like they fell down to stay down. They were thrown all around. Yeah. And there was there was there was garbage or garbage, but there was there was debris in different spots all over the place. Yeah, it's funny, because you'd have one guy screaming and hollering at the cops. And you'd have, you know,"
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"text": " There's 1000 guys standing around them just standing at the barricade, but there's one guy who's like just in it in the cops face yelling and screaming and they're there with their the right ear. They're just standing there just staring at him saying nothing and the guys are screaming. They're saying all kinds of crazy stuff. But most people didn't they just you know, we're just there and it's funny because in the I watched one of these was from vice."
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"text": " The worst and and they would show what this is what I didn't get because I'm nervous trying to get like clarification and they would show someone on film screaming and then they would you know, they do the whole you know, they freeze the guy's face and then they mentioned what he was charged with but I didn't see the guy had not all of them. Some of them definitely I could see like hey these guys breaking windows this guy definitely, you know jumped over a barricade whatever but for the most part"
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"text": " They never show what any of these guys did. So I'm wondering, how do you know what they did? Like, how do you know that this guy? How do you know to charge this guy with anything? I can see him walking in a crowd like I'm thinking, maybe he must have done something inside. But I watched the whole thing and there's never a video of this guy inside doing it. The DOJ has CCTV cameras all around the Capitol. So that's how they got, you know, the videos of what people did. So advice is not showing you everything. They're, you know, just cherry picking what videos that look good for their documentary."
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"text": " Okay, I actually didn't think that the documentary was was if there are better images, I didn't think that the documentary was horrific because I'm watching and I'm like, okay, this guy was charged with something. Okay. And I'm kind of remember trying to remember his name and waiting for to see what happened. And then I never seen anything else. So by the end of the documentary, I was like, I don't understand how this guy"
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"text": " They didn't give that footage to to to to vice to to use in the in the documentary some of them absolutely like there are some guys there that are listen, they're knocking out windows. They're pushing guards. They're doing all kinds of stuff. So I'm thinking yeah, bro. What are you doing? Like like that's like, you know, it's you know, it's not acceptable. That's you can't be doing that. So yeah, you you should be charged with something. I don't know what you get charged with for that, you know."
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"text": " But they're also they were also charged with whatever the other crime where they say you're saying there is no charge. No, no actual federal charge of insurrection. There is there it exists. It's a real charge. Okay, nobody was charged with insurrection. So what is that the there what they charge people with that was related to a riot was civil disorder. So you're involved engaged in a riot, and you are obstructing a police officer. That's basically what they charge everyone"
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"text": " For the ride itself, but they also here's the big one that I don't know if you remember this it's 1512 it's us code 1512 right and it's obstruction of an official proceeding. So that is a law that was created in like the 1800s to prevent someone like messing with an election integrity back when you know elections were all by hand and people could you know."
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"text": " It's eighteen hundreds right right that's an old law and they charge everyone with that and it was like carries like a twenty year sentence it's a ridiculous they say we obstructed congress doing their job right so in july of last year supreme court heard that case and said hey i think it was a corsage."
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"text": " Said that hey, this is a doesn't apply. This doesn't apply to what you guys are charging people with This is a way overreach. So they knocked it down So they had to remove that charge from I got charged with that too with from all the cases So it took away their heavy charge of 20 years and it dropped it down to like a regular felony of civil disorder like a five-year sentence, right? But there was also another one a seditious conspiracy"
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"text": " which is they're saying that like the proud boys, oath keepers, we were planning in the, you know, the woods, like you were saying with combat boots and, you know, walkie talkies. Right. But, but there was no insurrection charge. If there was no one was charged with that, if there was a plan, it was, it was not well executed. Yeah. So, oh, listen, I'm going to bring up two movies here in a minute. Because I love this stuff. But in the movies, they were much better at this than you guys. Yeah, yeah."
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"text": " So so what did you do at once you guys got to the Capitol? What'd you do? You just you just walked in to see what's going on? Yeah, there's my people walking around like this. I've never been to the Capitol I've been to I've been to DC before but I've never been inside the cap or even around the Capitol So I just walked around I was looking around, you know, like just everything I was I'd never been there. I didn't know where I was going. I had no direction There's you know, there was think 800 people in there something like that. So I'm just following other people talking Talking to people talk seeing people. I know what's up, dude, you know, I"
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"text": " I didn't break anything. I didn't attack any police officers. The DOJ during my sentencing earlier this month was in DC. They said that I was a physical with a police officer. So the judge is like, let me see the video. You know what physical meant? That I like brushed arms with a police officer. Basically that"
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"text": " So and I don't know what's going on. That's exactly where I'm going. It's like, so you you walked in. What did you where did you go in in the building? I don't remember. What is the name of the building? What am I thinking? It's the Capitol, right? It's the Capitol. So the Senate chambers, the Congress. Right. I don't know where I was. I don't know. I don't know the direction that I went. I was walking to the hallways, walking past offices and stuff. I had no idea where I was going."
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"text": " You know, everybody everyone get out everyone needs to get out, you know, everyone needs to get out But it wasn't like there's you know, there were riot cops standing eventually after like maybe a half-hour bunch of riot cops came out And they were trying to push everyone out That's when they started getting physical and using their shields to push everyone out But initially I saw cops like in a hall. I was talking to cops in hallways They were just standing there where people were just discussing talking about you know, how how messed up the election was things like that I didn't in the Capitol. I didn't see one police officer attacked or hit or anything. It was just like"
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"text": " Cops kind of knew, all right, it's kind of out of control now, but there's nothing we can do. Let's just wait till this is over. So yeah, it was much more peaceful than they're trying to make it appear. So what, well, I mean, you're saying like you didn't have an actual, you guys didn't have an actual conversation. What do you think that, it's so, you know, I hate to say it. Do you ever hear George, George Carlson?"
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"text": " Carlin Carlin, George Carlin, I think it's George Carlin, Gary, where he explains he's like, you know, you don't, in order for there to be a conspiracy, you don't have a have to have to have a formal consensus, right? As long as all of your goals are in line with one another, right? So we don't have to get together and have a conversation. As long as our all of our goals are this. And I think that that's kind of the consensus of the the government as far as conspiracies are concerned."
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"text": " But even within your group, you didn't have a conversation. I was separated from my group. Were you with your dad? Yeah, my dad was there, but we got separated. So I walked in, I got in, and they were still outside. So I went in, they went around, wherever they went, they walked in through open doors. There's a video of it. They just literally walked in through open doors."
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"text": " Everyone had the idea to go in there and stop the election of Joe Biden. Right. By that point, it had already happened. Yeah, I think it was this was like 214 or something that the initial breach and they did it at like noon. Right. The vice president had already certified the election, right? It's called like, and I guess Trump was hoping that he wouldn't certify it. But you know, you're being presented with"
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"text": " You bring being presented with documents that appear to be perfectly legit, regardless of whether they are or not, or it comes out later. This is what seems legit. These are these senators have signed off on this or their governor, whatever is everybody signed off that's supposed to sign off. Like, I'm not sure what he was supposed to do. You know, you may have a different opinion, but I'm not sure like,"
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"text": " If my job entails that I have to make sure that all of these are are certified and signed by the proper people and they are well then that happens then I have to say that this is this is the result of the election then that's what I have to do you know that's that's it so I know I don't think at least I can speak for my group but I can speak for a lot of people no one had the intention of going there to stop Mike Pence from certifying the election right first of all I didn't even know they were they were doing that or had done that right then and there I didn't know what time they were doing that right um"
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"text": " And I know that there's, it's impossible to stop that. You're not, what are, what are the, the, the, or is the DOJ, I know they're not under, I'm just, it's a rhetorical question. Do they think that we're that stupid, that we are going to occupy the Capitol, take over the government for the next four years until we bring Trump back? That's a ridiculous notion. That's the, that's what they pushed. And like you said earlier, if we plan to do this, it was poorly executed, but if we re, if we really did,"
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"text": " One of my good friends was he said he's on video walking around with a beer and a cigarette, right? Really, you're taking over the Capitol with a beer and a cigarette. I mean, it looks cool. But come on. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there are guys that are that are live streaming. There are guys that are doing everything. The one guy comes with the horns and sits down and everything like stop it. That's not how you're taking over the Capitol. Yeah, like that was the iconic look. It's an iconic look. Yeah, listen, it's a great photo, but it's not."
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"text": " Listen, for one thing, if you were going to have that meeting, and this guy said, Yeah, this is what I'm wearing tomorrow. It would be like, No, you're not. We're sending you home. Yeah, we're gonna look come back. This is not a look we want to go with. It's just shirt off. His face painted or whatever. Um, but I just said, Did you see the movie? Oh, God, come on Civil War."
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"text": " So but the it's about being a handmaid and the whole thing and listen super interesting, but the whole thing my wife has watched. Oh, I've seen clips of it. Yeah, but it's how they take over it talks about how they take over and that sort of thing. Let's decide great movie. Anyway, you might hate it. I've seen a lot of I mean leftist women online complaining about it like oh my god, Trump is gonna turn everything into the handmaid's table. So ridiculous. I love it like cuz that's what he did last time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um,"
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"text": " I was looking around like looking at the statues and the paintings and you know, it was history. I'm like, this is really cool. Do you have any conversations with your buddies? Like, yeah, they're, they're gonna re certify it or this not there. Nothing about that. No zero about that before, during after zero conversations about any kind of interruption in the the election."
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"text": " If you're legitimately interested I'll tell you I was like, but if you're trying to do this like try to get me to interview with you Just be nice to me as it's not gonna work. I don't know we're interested So I BS with them for like 15 minutes then like I'll miss you a question about January 6. I was like, nope I said we're done. Let's take me to jail. It's like, alright, they took they took me to the federal jail in Orlando. I spent maybe like a"
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"text": " What's he saying? They were both on our side. Like this is total BS. Like this is totally being exaggerated. If this was a leftist protest, it would have been just like a trespassing charge that you pay a certain fine. That's it. Boom, you're done. But they're overdoing this because it was related to Trump and because it was right wingers, you know, right? There's a political bias, especially in DC. DC is all leftist. They were on our side and saying, you know,"
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"text": " So we went to sentencing January 8th and they asked for 24 months. The judge gave me 14 months and I had to turn myself in in March. I was cool with that. I was cool with that. I said, I'll do that. That's, that's a slap on the wrist. Basically. It's, you know, what everybody else is. Yeah, I can eat that 14 months. Um, but Trump came through. So wait a minute. You were, that was in March. You were sentenced. I was sentenced in January. I had to turn myself in this March. Oh, this one. Yeah. I was sentenced a couple of weeks ago."
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"text": " I thought you were saying you did say last July or whatever July they dropped the big charges right September I pled guilty because they changed the plea deal after that because oh they don't have the big charge anymore September changed the plea deal. I accepted it January 8th was my sentencing a couple weeks ago and March 8th, I had to turn myself in 14 months in Coleman. I was gonna go to Coleman. Yeah, you were gonna what Coleman low or the low"
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"text": " Yeah, I think I said Coleman low, which I was prepared to do. I had a bunch of friends in there. And I was like, that's gonna be easy, man. 14 months is easy. You went to high school, right? Yeah, same thing. Oh, well, that sounds like it's not like it's it's like a it's like a tough high school. Yeah, you know, that's that bad. Yeah, it's not it's not bad. You know, there's fistfights and guys talk about each other. And it's just all bullshit. So I go into the pen. Yeah, you would have gone there and been like, you know, guys have been like,"
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"text": " Yeah, I had friends there that we I was talking to them like, yeah, well, I guess we're gonna and some of my other friends were getting sentenced or sent there too. So I'm like, this is gonna be really fun. Yeah. So what happened when I mean, did you? So you didn't think that Trump was gonna? I did not. I did not. On November, I did not. I was stressed about it. Like, man, I'm gonna have to go to prison. This sucks. At the time, I didn't know what I was gonna get. I knew it would be up to two years, right? This is gonna suck. I don't want to go to prison."
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"text": " Um, but Trump won. I could not believe it. I got hammered. I think I drank until like six a.m. And I just passed out and like so happy. So, I mean, did you and he had said he was gonna, he was gonna pardon all the January Sixers. He, he did. I don't think he ever said those words specifically, but he always alluded to, you know, I'm, I'm inclined to pardon them. Let me look at the cases. He never explicitly said it. So I was kind of like, man, maybe he's just like trying to, you know,"
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"text": " Not piss off, you know the the moderates but also not not piss off the people who support him, right? So I was always like man, maybe he's gonna do it a couple months in or I'll be like, you know before he leaves You know prep the presidency but man day one dude. Yeah, I can't believe it Yeah, how'd you find out like I was watching it live dude I was watching it live and I sat there all day watching it. I was you know, drinking a beer watching it all day and"
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"text": " And once it came out, I think it was like seven or eight o'clock that he signed the pardon for 1500 people. I was like, oh dude, pass the bottle, man. I was so excited, man. Did you get a letter or anything? Not yet. I had to apply for the actual documents a couple days ago. They sent me an email for it. So I have to apply for it. But as of now, the pardon is real. Like it exists. He signed it."
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"text": " But I'm still like, it's processing right now. So I'm not out of the woods, technically. I'd still like to have a copy. You might want to get that framed. Yeah, I'm gonna blow it up. Yeah, I'm gonna blow it up huge and frame it on my wall. Did you, so I have a question. Once you got, you sign out, I'm sorry, you bond out and you lost your job, right? That one, I didn't lose the job. I didn't lose it. I talked to my boss and he's like,"
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"text": " them like, you know, like, no, you're I'm not I'm not firing you. So I didn't lose my job. But once I pled guilty, and I became a felon, I had to quit because I couldn't be hired, I couldn't have a license to the state. So I resigned because I, you know, right, I was gonna get fired anyway. But this is only a few months, September. Okay. Um, and, okay, so"
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"text": " What did you do from there? My buddy, through friends, had side work. I've been doing okay. Are you thinking about going back to that employer? You resigned, it's not his fault. He kept you on that whole time. Yeah, they want me back, but I'm not sure what I'm gonna do yet. I don't know what career decision I want to pursue."
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"text": " But we'll see because I'm just happy to be done with this. I was gonna say like I was in when Obama did the he signed a bunch of they weren't they weren't pardons. They were clemencies, right? Yeah, where he gave a bunch of you know, these guys would get letters in the mail, you know, some of their lawyers would get notified. They don't they knew beforehand, but they would get a letter in the mail and stuff like that. And they're like they do walking around the like, I got this in the mail, you know, yeah."
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"text": " Yeah, I was gonna say they kind of fucked that up. The first bunch that they did, they just let them out. And these guys are coming right back to prison like this guy's been locked up 15 years, you just let them out. You can't do that. So then the second wave they came back, they said, No, no,"
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"text": " you have to go from the pen where you've been for 15 years, you actually just let you out into society. I can't just let a rabid dog into a playground, you know, say, so then they had them go, they would actually bring them from here, they go to the medium for six months, then they go to the low for six months. And some of them, they said, you got to pass our DAP first, which is a drug program. And then they let them out. And those guys had a much easier time. Someone would transition. Yeah, you can't just let some guy who's been, you"
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"text": " So when you after that, here's what I'm wondering, after you got out and you're still at work,"
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"text": " Did you like why didn't you and this may seem ridiculous. Maybe you did this. I don't know. I don't think so though. Why didn't you start like a YouTube channel or tick-tock or something like that? Some of these guys have done that right the reason. Well, the reason why I didn't do that is because I was working there still and I didn't even though my job that particular office wasn't going to fire me. It was I don't let me say this correctly."
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"text": " We're still under a certain company and that company I don't I never wanted them to find out because I didn't want I don't want to be fired. So that's why I tried to lay low I deleted social media and all that because I didn't want my name to get out there because as soon as I got arrested the next day I had people emailing my job like oh my god you you have I don't even know how they found my email my work email they're like how you hire January Sixers a violent terrorist and I got a bunch of emails and my boss is getting emails and like"
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"text": " So that's why I want to lay low. I want to take heat off my job and I did successfully for years, right? So that's the reason why maybe I will now who knows? Yeah, I was gonna say we got I would say just to kind of follow up on that like what would you say because I'm sure this video will probably have some like people that come come to the comment section are like this guy's a"
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"text": " I don't care. I don't I really don't care what you think if you're if you're mad at me Go fuck yourself. Sorry. Yeah, I you know, the problem is is that the comment section is"
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"text": " There are already people that have made their minds up and it doesn't matter if you explain the situation to them. They've decided that you're a scumbag. I mean, look, I did 13 years in prison, you know what I'm saying? Committed a ton of fucking bank fraud. And I get, you know, and even though out of all my, my victims, the bulk of them are banks. There's, I think I have like four."
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"text": " Uh, individual victims, people that lost money, like a doctor who had to pay like 12 grand to a lawyer to because I, I changed his title. So he had to go through the courts to change that, you know, and by all means, you know, absolutely, you know, it was a scumbag thing. I mean to do absolutely. Um, he didn't do anything wrong. So he certainly didn't bring it on himself. His biggest mistake was that he just happened to cross my path. Yeah. You know, um, does that make me a scumbag? Yeah, it makes me a scumbag, you know, but"
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"text": " I get people in the comments who will apparently watch the video and say that I stole from old people that like they in their mind."
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"text": " they've got an entire narrative that never happened. Yeah. And I realized it took me a little bit to realize like, there's some people that you, it doesn't matter if you show them the facts and really explain the situation to them, they've made their mind up and they've made that decision and there's nothing you can say. Absolutely. So, you know, I feel bad for those people and you know, that's all you can, you know, that's, that's your take on it. And there's nothing I can say to change your mind."
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"text": " I'm at you're 100% right. I'm at the point though that I don't really care. Like if you don't like me, you're mad at me. I can care less if you are. I'm just a regular guy. I have a wife. I have a son. I was a cop for you know, nine years and I've been a good a good upstanding citizen, you know, and that"
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"text": " to me was a patriotic day, and I'm not going to let people shame me into like, you know, being reclusive and hiding and stuff. I'm not going to hide. I have nothing to hide. So hey, you guys appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button. By the way, I'm going to leave Nate's email address in the description box if you want to reach out to him."
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