Selling The Cure For Aids | Insane Story of Sex, Drugs, and Penny Stocks

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      "text": " Hi, I'm Jean Chatsky. You may know me as the host of the Her Money podcast or the financial editor of NBC's Today Show for 25 years."
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      "text": " Well, I'm saying also the the the stock scam thing, like I'm just saying in general, it just jumps from one extreme to the other. Right. I was like scam drugs. Right. Yeah. So which is funny because typically like I like to like if it's I tend to look for something stuff that's you know where the person stayed in one this is going to sound funny but in one industry. Right. But yours but because they'll just you had written that whole long thing and I was like"
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      "text": " I don't know, this sounds super interesting. And then you had all the article, you know, you're like, hey, you can look this up, you can look this up, you can look this up. All verifiable. Right. So anyway, so let's do this. Let's start at the beginning. Yeah, start at the beginning. Like you do with everybody. Yeah. So, I mean, I grew up as a normal kid. I had a great, I mean, a great childhood."
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      "text": " Family was all close. My dad has two brothers, which were passed. But anyway, they all stayed close to my grandparents. I was ultra close with my grandfather. Great, you know, and so then you get to like middle school. Now we had moved a few times. My dad was always like an entrepreneur. At one time he had a bar, restaurant, car dealership, gas station, body shop, and had a full time job."
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      "text": " Besides that and and the guy didn't graduate high school. So I give him a lot of credit for that. Yeah, you know always Provided always tried to lead me down the right road But you said you kept moving right? Well, he'd buy a business and we never moved that far Normally, we we did spend a year in Connecticut, but we always ended up back in Cooperstown, New York, which is where the baseball hall famous That's where I actually graduated high school. So we always ended up back in the Cooperstown area and"
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      "text": " That's where I went through most of my school. And imagine this at like, whatever, I don't know, 15, 16 years old. My dad, you know, was insistent I was going to go to college. For some reason, I did really well in math. We had a teacher I love, Mr. Collier, and I did algebra, geometry, trigonometry. And, excuse me, if I remember correctly, I had, I think algebra, like a 98,"
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      "text": " Knocking over gravestones. I'll never forget. I'm like eight nine years old. I'm in the back of a trooper car and He said I'm eight years old. How the hell am I gonna, you know, turn a gravestone over, you know, right? it was just retarded, but that was my first experience with law enforcement and anyway, so now fast forward to like about 1617 there was a family called the Daniello's and Mr. Daniello was a Supreme Court justice for the state of Jersey"
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      "text": " They had a house on Oxsego Lake, which is a lake in Cooperstown. A lot of people have summer homes there. They had a nice home. Well, he had two beautiful daughters and a son, David. David and I became friends. David decided that growing pot was a good idea. Sounds like a good idea. So he, he brought up garbage bags and the very first time I went to get any quantity, I don't know who did it. I'll never know. He, he understood he garbage bags full of wheat. Oh, okay."
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      "text": " He never did find it, you know, he kind of looked around and not like they do today, but you know, it was all right. So it's obviously somebody said, so I was going to say, what does your buddy say something? It couldn't have been David, you know, had to have been, but it was always, you know, at the back of my mind, you know, who the hell even knew, you know, uh, so I, you know, him and I made a few bucks selling weed over, over that summer. I don't remember if I was 16 or 17. That was probably the first time I, you know, went outside of the law."
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      "text": " And, uh, but then I went straight pretty much, as you could say. And, uh, I always been able to talk to people and people say, you know, like the old thing, you could sell ice to the Eskimos or whatever. And, uh, so I'm looking around for a job and I had never even heard of these things. I go up and interview, Oh, you're hired. I'm thinking I'm getting this great job. And the first day they're teaching us. And it wasn't until the end of that day, I even realized what the hell we were selling."
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      "text": " Kirby vacuum cleaners door to door. Oh, man. So I would run up to the door to get your free paper towels today. You give them the paper towels. If they take them, go back to the van. You get the two boxes. Try to get in the house and demonstrate that. And I was doing good. I was making money doing it. I met my first wife, Carol, doing that. She got pregnant. How old were you? 19. OK. And and oh, let me back up. I didn't want to mention this in high school. Like I said, my dad wanted me to go to college."
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      "text": " And I had every aspiration to go into the University of Miami. I keep thinking Joan Collins, but I don't think that's the right name, but our guidance counselor. Imagine this, you're 16 years old and the guidance counselor says to you, why would you want to go there? What are you going to learn? Underwater basket weaving? What an idiot. Exactly."
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      "text": " That totally changed, you know, my direction in life. And it made me not go to college because she's like, you're just going to waste your parents' money going there. And she's a guidance counselor. So I ended up going in the military. I forgot about that. So my dad had to sign. I was only 17. I graduated high school early. I went half a year, my senior year and graduated in January. Went into the Air Force in February and I was only in for, I think, a couple of months."
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      "text": " I go back home. Then I get into the vacuum cleaner thing and ended up meeting Carol, my first wife. I was only married like a year. She got pregnant and the worst day of my life, my oldest son was stillborn and he was huge. He was like 12-6 and we got to hold him and all."
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      "text": " That was a tough day. And it turned out the only reason that he didn't live was she had excessive shivers spilling over. And the doctors didn't pick it up. She was diabetic. If they had picked it up ahead of time, you know, he'd still be here. You know, so what year was this? That was like 1980. Okay. And so then she got pregnant again. Not sure how that happened. But"
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      "text": " We don't know anyways, and I ended up with another company called Millbrook and not the bread company name was Lee Isaacson and he's like anybody that can go out and knock on doors and sell vacuum cleaners I want to hire you and they did help them beauty ace candy and stationery to Ames department stores, which was like Kmart today or Walmart, whatever. I guess Kmart's not even around anymore."
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      "text": " And so I did that for a year and a half and I had a problem with, well, they, I did real well. They promoted me and they called it store design. What that meant when they opened a new store or did a remodel, I would go there for a month, whatever, and set our section up. So they're giving me a crew of young girls. And so, you know, at night I'd be things happen exactly. And I get it. The dumb thing that happened is, uh, are you still married?"
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      "text": " So here's the dumb thing I did. The vice president in charge of security for the Aims department stores, her assistant slash girlfriend, now the vice president is complete 100% lesbian. Lisa, her assistant is bisexual. So she's at the store with me."
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      "text": " And you know, the girls talk and so she decides that taking me home to her room is a good idea. Well, we're in bed and the vice president comes to surprise her girlfriend Lisa and comes bouncing through the door. That was the last day I worked for that company. She called my company and said, Hey, he's not allowed any of our stores anymore. You know, he's fucking my girlfriend. That's it. Got to go. So at that point I went into the car business and did well with that."
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      "text": " No, no, we were actually curled up. We are already Yeah, you know, but I mean what he's still early in the relationship, right? Well, this was just gonna be a you know, yeah, wham-bam. Thank you, man I was gonna head to my room, but I'm thinking well, maybe we could do this one more time before I go to bed and So we're just laying in the course. We're naked, you know, right and she just blew I mean I guess that oh god she called Lee Isakson and"
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      "text": " I think the guy's name was Morty Siegel from the Ames department chain, and they called Millbrook, my company, and they said, look, this guy, not allowed any more stores. Now, I don't know what she told, she's the vice president, so I don't know what she had to tell, but he let it go because he's fucking my girlfriend. Come on."
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      "text": " so she could have just said like listen there's a there was an issue i don't want to get into it i don't want to you know you can easily frame that in a way that it makes it sound like you've done something inappropriate we don't want them around here anymore well there was an issue come to think of it now you say that they i had gotten myself without even realizing a reputation from store you know as we did one store there was always at least a couple girls that you know i would hit and so"
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      "text": " It got back, you know, through the chain or, you know, whatever. So they already had... People talk. Yeah. It's not good. So that was it. Boom, you're done. And so then they were going to let me do grocery stores victory because they really didn't want to lose me, but it just... I don't know. And it was great. Because there's no women that work in grocery stores. Well, there is, but it would have been almost like a demotion, you know, and I had just gotten a promotion. Now imagine this. I'm driving in the Adirondacks."
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      "text": " in the wintertime in a freaking ford pinto they used it they said listen you have the roughest terrain and stuff and you know so i mean again i'm 19 i've got a company amx uh plus a gas card company car you know i mean yeah but it's a ford pinto they're trying to kill you that's right so it's just waiting for you to get hit from behind it's over again right again and one of my genius moves i went downhill skiing with cross-country skis which of course the bindings don't and"
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      "text": " A mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead, and he claimed LSD made him do it. His name, David Minor IV, and we talked to him. Listen to Invisible Choir every other week as we uncover the most haunting true crimes you've never heard of, available wherever you get your podcasts."
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      "text": " It was, what size car do you want? Okay. I got a fucking Lincoln Continental. It was like $59 a day back then. Right. Plus 45 cents a mile, you know, and when Lee got that bill, he was not happy. I mean, he blew a, who the fuck do you think you are getting a Lincoln? I don't even drive a Lincoln, you know, I'm the five papa. And so, but they were quick to get me a Mercury Zephyr then. I mean, it was like, as soon as they found out I had that Lincoln, get that car back, you know,"
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      "text": " And we're going to have somebody meet you with his effort. I said, okay. So, uh, and, and I will, one other side note with that job, Bruce Williams was my district manager and we met in Plattsburgh. I'll never forget this either. And Plattsburgh is only about an hour south of Montreal. And we decided we were going to go to Montreal. So we get up there and neither one of us has a clue about French. Everything's in French. And all we could read on this sign was continuous strip tease. Choose your partner."
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      "text": " That's us. That's the place we need to be. Well, and there's nothing but females, you know, around the corner. I mean, up the block. And I mean, some hotties, you know, going, no men. Now I'm like, you know, we're here. This is it. We're done. It's Canada. So we wait online for an hour and we get to the door and here's this, you know, burly"
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      "text": " I walked in just far enough, and here's a male stripper swinging his shit around in this girl's face, and I was like, and now the bouncer, he's not mad, now he's laughing. Not the kind of place you wanted to be. He was doing you a favor. Oh, he definitely was. So then he instructs us where the female strip club is."
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      "text": " around the corner. So we go around the corner and we proceed to get drunk. Now I said, listen, we just got done watching women strip and now we want women. The women just got done watching men strip. Let's go back and grab them as they come out of the club."
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      "text": " Well, it turns out I wasn't the first person that had this idea. There was actually a college student from Boston that drove up there on a regular basis and was charging, had a Volkswagen van that was charging women, you know, male prostitute out of a Volkswagen van. Funny as hell, I couldn't believe it. But when we got back there, I was so drunk, I couldn't find a park space, so I parked on a sidewalk. Montreal police had no sense of humor at all. Of course, again, you know, it's like 1980, maybe 81."
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      "text": " Back then, get off the sidewalk and drive careful and get your ass back to the United States. Sticklers. Yeah, yeah. So that was in there. And so, you know, we were too drunk to drive back to Plattsburgh. So we ended up with two hotel rooms in Plattsburgh and two hotel rooms in Montreal. So when that bill hit, and I think that we put some of the bar tab on our American Express card. So we kind of blew up about that one, too. That was a"
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      "text": " That job didn't last. Well, that's the same job here. That's the one I got caught with Lisa. You're a problem. It was about 18 months I was there. You're a problem. A problem employee. Well, no. My biggest issue is I like vagina. And billing the company for it in some way. Exactly. What's wrong with that? No, I hear you. As an employee, I'm with you."
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      "text": " I hear you as an employer. Not so good. You're an issue. So yeah, but they now they gave us a, I can't remember if it was 30 or $40 per diem. So this was my argument back to Lee. I said, listen, I, I, this is your fault. Lee. No, I said, I hate, why'd you give me this credit card chicken this night and you know, a $6 cheeseburger this night."
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      "text": " And this night, you know, I had a salad. So, you know, I had like 80 bucks. So the fact that I spent $300 at the bar, you know, I more than offset it by the $89 that I saved you. He didn't totally agree with you. Like it's a powerful argument. And so he, you know, and then, but after that, I mean, I was still there quite a while, you know, quite a few months. I did that. I think I was only there like six months, but they liked me because the,"
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      "text": " The territory I had was the whole Adirondacks. I'd leave Monday morning and get home Friday afternoon. And then the next week I was down south in central New York, close enough where I could come home every night. So every other week I was on the road. Hence the, you know, you're 19 years old, you know, you got a suit and tie job, company car, the MX, you know, again. And like I said, I've always been like a vagina addict, I guess, you know, I just always"
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      "text": " So, but I did and I'd go in and I'd talk to the store manager. Hey, let's put an end cap of this. And so I increased the sales like 60% for my territory at six months. And they're like, Hey, you know, this guy knows what he's doing, blah, blah, blah. You know, when I was a hustler, that's, I've been a hustler my whole life. So anyways, I, you know, sleep with Lisa, lose that job."
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      "text": " And then I take a job at the Ford store. And the first day I was there, I sold the first car. I sold the used Mustang. Second day, I sold two cars. And the general manager came out and threw me the keys to this Mustang. He's like, there's your demo. You know, I mean, you got to earn that. You know, you're coming in at whatever, 20 years old, no automotive experience."
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      "text": " picked up this girl Ellen now he's married and I married at the time but I'm you know my marriage is definitely coming to an end and I don't know why so this girl comes in and buys a car and Ellen and we called her the whale I mean because she was like she had a lot of money 220 she was a large girl and he's like she's got a hot girlfriend I need somebody I've got to take her out because it's the only way she's buying a car but I also have to get"
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      "text": " Tripped my pants fell down and it fell in her mouth Yeah, and I actually did try to explain that to my second wife freak accident had her best friend of all people but we'll get to that in a little minute, but Little kind of a habit forming going on here. Yeah but anyways So that was you know, Carol was devastated. I can't believe it. She I said listen"
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      "text": " and the other days you work one to six so and then you know you flip-flop so every other week you got a three-day week or two and a half days that's great Dave plus we'll give you this this so I moved down there I'm there and that's in Utica New York which is little Chicago back then we actually had you know there was mafia connections tons of Italians not that every Italian is mafia people but you know there was"
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      "text": " At the time was a murder capital. I think it still is I mean it is just a fucking toilet But while I'm doing that and Richie I will tell you this Richie Westfall was a guy's name I was he ended up being the largest wholesaler in the whole manheim corporation Nationwide nobody moved more cars than Richie did I? Ended up with his own tractor trailers of course the business went to hell, and I'm not even sure where he is now But I mean it was good one lasted when I first started doing it you could make"
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      "text": " I had taken a picture with him, you know, with the golf shirt and whatever. He's got his arm around him. And I get the picture developed. This is back, you know, in the day. Get the picture developed, brought it back, and he personalized it. I'll never forget this. He personalized it, you know, Jim, blah, blah, blah, blah. God bless. Best wishes, Coach Gibbs. And that was on Saturday. On Sunday, I'm walking through the garage in Daytona, and I hear Jim. Jim. And like the third time, I think,"
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      "text": " Well, I decided that, I think, I don't remember exactly how it came about, but I was looking at the paper and there was this advertisement. It wasn't really a job. It was, you know, you're kind of buying a business to be a sales trainer for the whole state of New York, predominantly with the automotive business. Big money. And I thought, you know, this"
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      "text": " So I call the guy up, make an appointment. I drive down to Cherry Hill, New Jersey. We make a deal. I paid him like three thousand or thirty five hundred for this franchise, which, you know, later really was bullshit. I mean, he's selling me fluff, but he gives me what I ended up with for three grand was a bunch of cassette tapes because he was trying to sell these tapes subliminal messages. And I didn't really believe in any of it. I sold the tapes one time and then I"
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      "text": " Just got away from him. But what I did get from him was like a New York phone book. Huge. Every car dealer in the state of New York. So I started calling him. Here was the deal. I'll come to your town. I'll put an ad in the newspaper. You pay for that. You pay for my motel. Per diem, give me a car to drive. I'll hire salespeople. Monday, Tuesday, I'll have an interview. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I train them. Now, here's the trick. Here's how I get paid. You pay me $500"
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      "text": " for your job. So these people are paying me $500 a head to come in. The first week that I did it, I ended up with I think 12 people, like seven of them paid in full, a couple of them were on payments, you know, I only got 200 and you know, so I would take payments and stuff, had a little contract, they take it right out of their paycheck and mail it to me. And so at 500 a head, you know, six grand, right, first week right out of the gate. Next week,"
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      "text": " I only did like eight people, but this is progressing. Still, that's ten grand in two weeks. Right. And all legit, you know, and of course you got to look the part, you know, the suit and tie and I mean, and I used to take people, I remember one guy in particular, the Dell Corporation in Syracuse, New York hired me and they had me at, I don't remember, six or eight stores, which we'll get"
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      "text": " I have, of course, have a girl story for that too, but they hired me and what was I going to say with Dell? But anyway, I was averaging probably five, between five and six thousand a week, every week. And like I said, oh, I know what I was going to tell you, Dave. So at their Dodge dealership, which was their flagship store,"
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      "text": " I want to give you a shot, but you really got to listen. Okay. So I taught this kid everything from how to dress, how to meet and greet customers, how to, you know, right down the line, how to close a deal and all that. So anyways, he, uh, he ended up being the number two salesman for the Chevrolet, for General Motors, for the whole United States, number two in the country out in Southern California."
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      "text": " So here's a kid who was struggling, you know, and I took a change his life, you know, and I actually got credit for that in one of the automotive publications. Uh, when I was with the Dell group at that point, now I'm married to Louann and things were great, except now I'm on the road every week. And so she wants to start accusing me of fucking around. I, you know, you know, your past and I haven't. Well, you know, if I come home three or four weekends,"
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      "text": " And you accuse me of doing it and we're going to argue about it. Fuck it. I might as well be doing it. So I started. I understand. That makes sense, right? Yeah. I'm already taking shit for it. Right. I'm already arguing about it. So I might as well do it. So my first conquest was the receptions at the dealerships. And so young Sammy, Sammy Dell, he goes, you're going to the Jeep store next week."
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      "text": " And Chrissy, he goes, you won't get her opinions. I don't care. You're good and you're slick, but you will not get that one. And I forget what we bet, like 500 bucks, I think. Jesus. Men are horrible. On Sunday. Right. On Wednesday night, I called him from the hotel and I go, hey, Sammy, I want you to talk to somebody. Now, mind you, this girl got engaged, got engaged a week before I met her."
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      "text": " Everybody wanted a job for the cable company. Right. They were. This was at the time. It was Time Warner back then. And what was this in the 90s? Had to have been around. Yeah. Had to have been around 90, 91. Well, cable was massively huge. It was laying those laying pipe everywhere. They were. And the deal was they had to go to each and every house and install a box. Right. So somebody at their office said, listen, you know, to offset some of this expense, let's hire salespeople."
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      "text": " And send them in and say, look, when you get to the house, look around, you see a bunch of toys. Hey, it's kids. Try to upsell, you know, sell them Disney channel. I wait, what's the other one? Nickelodeon. Yeah. Nickelodeon. And so the first week I go to Rochester, New York, man, I started interviewing people at seven o'clock Monday morning, went until 11 o'clock at night. Same thing Tuesday. I ended up hiring 30 people."
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      "text": " And 20, is that right? Yeah, I think that's right. I don't know. Anyway, you said 30. You said 30 people times that's $15,000. 15,000. Right. So and you would. All right. So 15,000. So, yeah, I was thinking a little bit. I mean, it did have weeks where I made more than that. But so and out of 15, you would end up with, say, 10 that you walked out with. But you got to remember that's 10 net because I had zero expense. Right. They paid everything. They paid the hotel, the meals, the car, everything. And so I started doing that."
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      "text": " These are huge benefits and the only way you're going to find out more is by clicking on the link, booking your free consultation today. All right, guys, see you soon at the end of the video. Peace. I'm out of here. Back to you, Matt. All right. Yes. Stevie Alfano is definitely got to be a relative of you somehow. Built like you, you know, he's strikingly handsome. Well, of course. Yes. And yeah, that goes without saying. And Stevie is also height challenged."
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      "text": " So, you know, they, and I told him, you know, he wanted to kill me. I used to, I got him different ways, but my favorite was, uh, when I trained him, actually, I says, uh, do you have a lawsuit perhaps against the city of Rochester? Why would you ask? And I said, well, they built the sidewalks awful close to your ass. Oh, thank you, Jimmy. But so anyways, Stevie, I ended up hiring, uh,"
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      "text": " He picked up things quick, so I hired him to go and train salespeople for me, Stevie, Stevie Elfano. And this kid actually, I don't know if he still is, was in the Guinness Book of World Records. He went down the steps of the Kodak building in Rochester on his hands. So a clown like, and then we go to Miami and we're going to get into that in a minute with the Uniprime, with the big scam here. And we went there to visit."
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      "text": " And the office and see if we want to merge my company and all but anyways We're in Fort Lauderdale And we went to the playpen and it wasn't that busy. It wasn't like spring break, you know, nothing special going on So there you know, you got this huge club that holds thousands that there's maybe a hundred people in so I pick up two girls and We're back at the hotel the playpen is a pen. That was a bar club. Okay. Yeah, it was a club in"
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      "text": " Fort Lauderdale. It's comparable to Cocoa Walk, but it wasn't. You ever been to Cocoa Walk in Miami, South Beach? No. Spent a lot of time there too. But so I pick up two girls. We go back to the hotel and we're right on the ocean in Fort Lauderdale. And this kid goes in a shower and I'm in bed with both girls. He comes out of the shower with his pecker waving it around like, Hey, look what I am. You fucking moron. I'm getting ready to let you have one, you know,"
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      "text": " Don't be out here trying, you know, but Stevie was a trip. And the other thing that really pissed him off, I hired his sister to do some phone work for me. Phone work. Well, some phone work. Phone work. Yes. And Jimmy, don't you touch my fucking face. Don't you touch my fucking kill you, Jim. OK, so I thought he was and he wasn't and he turned up and that didn't go well."
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      "text": " Now his sister, Janice lived down here, bodybuilder, her boyfriend, Tony, was probably, I think he was like a buck ninety when he started on steroids, got up over 300 pounds, couldn't tie his own sneakers, and they arrested him in Orlando, the feds came from Orlando, or I think Tampa maybe, but Arizona too, at three different cities."
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      "text": " And Janice was as hot as a day as long. She was in the shower. They fucking ripped her out of the shower, threw her around the ground, had her handcuffs sitting on the couch naked. They arrested him for selling steroids? Yeah. Well, when they came to his apartment, he had garbage bags full of steroids. And, you know, Tony was not the sharpest tool in the box. You know, and I've heard you say, you know, when you had all this money coming in, you didn't want a Ferrari, you didn't, you know. Right. He's got not one, but two lotuses. He goes out."
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      "text": " It was some stupid amount of money, like 10 grand on a belt. I forget what, you know. He's inviting trouble. Right. Yeah. You mean you've got so, you know, he went and he couldn't rent an apartment because his credit wasn't good, but they rented it to him when he goes and pays for a year in advance. Right. Here. Now you can't say I'm not going to pay my rent. It's all right here in cash. Uh, so red flags started going up and you know, he got, he got popped. So anyways,"
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      "text": " I'm back in either Rochester or Buffalo area at Rochester at Gabriele Ford, hiring salespeople, and I run into a guy named Gary Tapp. Now, Gary, I think, was a distant relative of Rodney Dangerfield. You ever remember Rodney? I definitely loved, everybody loved Rodney Dangerfield. Gary looked like him, acted like him, and he wore these fucking polyester shirts and this polyester stretch pants."
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      "text": " pull it out and pull, I mean, you know, just way outdated clothing and stuff. Anyways, uh, and when I started telling him, I get no respect, you know, no respect, you know, he's great. Gary was a great guy. So Gary's deal was him and Jim Borlaug, they were, uh, consultants. So what they would do, your dealership's not making money. We'll come in and turn it around and we can prove we can do it because you know, we've got history. And once you start making money,"
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      "text": " We want a percentage of it. That's how they got paid a part of it. Oops. Of course they got upfront money to bar turnaround, kind of like that TV show bar turnaround or whatever. They come in, right? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right"
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      "text": " at that time and you know if I do this that's you know it's going to be the end because you know I'm never going to be home at least you know when I'm working for myself I could work three weeks and then if I want to take a week or two off I did and of course she'd get mad because I take two weeks off and I come to Florida her and the kids were still in New York and I'd be down here you know we had a place down in Boca and you know playing around"
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      "text": " a couple of my buddies, you know, we come down and same thing, cocaine and we had a 30, what the hell was it? 36 foot Donzi, a 19 foot rink or ski boat, a couple of three jet skis. And we go up to the bar that you could pull right up with the Donzi, get the girls, bring them back down to the house and, you know, swimming in the pool."
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      "text": " And the rule was in the pool, topless, if you want to use the hot tub, you know, we don't want any of the cloth or stuff coming out, you know, off your bed. So you just got just, you know, go ahead and get naked when you get in there. And so it was great for a while. So the intercoastal, you know, goes north and south. And then there's these little jettings. We were right on the end and put the pool in."
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      "text": " But you had, I think it was either eight or ten houses, you know, like four or five this side, four or five this side, all old people. So the guys loved it because they're out there with their binoculars on Sundays looking at the girls, their wives, not so much. Right. So we had our own private police force. They'd come by on Sunday afternoons. I had a CID. Come on, guy. Really? You know, we had to do this every week. It just turned into a hassle. Then, you know, the fucking HOAs are the worst thing on the planet."
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      "text": " I remember getting bills because the grass was a quarter of an inch too high, you know who the fuck goes around with a tape measure measuring grass and You know so so that ended but anyway I Met Gary and he's trying to get me to go with him So I came to Miami with Stevie and I said, let's just go listen to what he has to say Okay, so we come down"
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      "text": " And he had the kid, he fought, I mean, they ended up putting the kid in jail for a week or something over a fucking broken window. I mean, it was just retarded, or at least that's as much of the story as I know. I mean, it seems like there had to be more to it to end up in, you know, in county jail for a few days or 30, 30 days she was there. So anyways, that was the last day that I lived at that house. We got into it big time. I left. And of course the very first thing I did, she had,"
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      "text": " This hot friend, I mean just Rhonda McMahon, hot as a day is long from Texas and back then it was the big hair thing, you know, the blonde and I mean the hard body and all that. So I called Rhonda and I said, I've had enough of her shit. Let's go have dinner. Now she had just gotten rid of her boyfriend. Pedro, I think his name was or something like that, you know, they had moved up from Texas. I think he was Mexican or at least part Mexican."
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      "text": " where six or eight people that my ex-wife worked with are there. She worked for the county. She was a earned income specialist. So she was the one that got to tell the people that were getting welfare. Sorry, Matt, you made $12 a week too much. So you don't get food stamps anymore. Right. You know, and they actually, somebody actually went after with a box knife. And that's why they ended up, that was why they ended up putting sheriff's deputies in that department."
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      "text": " But so a lot of her co-workers were at this bar and now here's Jim and Rhonda in the bar drinking together, you know, and we're making out and you know, blah, blah, blah. So somebody had to call her with their best friends. She doesn't know where I went. You know, she knows all she knows is I took some clothes and I left. Well, now people are calling. Hey, you're not going to believe what you so needless to say."
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      "text": " She shows up and what a fucking fiasco that was. Um, I didn't get laid either. You know, that was the worst part. She's put the cock block on me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that pissed me off. So I, at that point packed up, I had a motor home and I still had my race car trailer. I had sold the race car, but I had the trailer. I put my BMW on the trailer."
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      "text": " and off I came to Florida. My parents live down here and I'm going to go down and do this thing with Gary. And so I get to Miami after I've virtually stopped doing what I've been doing, which was very, you know, very successful at, and you know, their office was so impressive. I walk in and you ever heard a brick laugh in Miami?"
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      "text": " Brickle Avenue, just Brickle in general, the whole area is amazing. Like a super clean Manhattan with just better weather. Did you notice the Bank of America building by chance? Not specifically, but I mean every building out there is amazing. It's gorgeous. Glaston elevator I used to ride. Ferrari's, Lamborghini, I've never seen so many European sports cars in one place."
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      "text": " Well, that's where our office was on Brick Lab. We were on, I think, I forget, 32nd floor, maybe. The office they give me is a big corner office overlooking Biscayne Bay. Doesn't get much better. Suddenly they don't have that much business. You know, they've got money coming in from what they've done, but nothing is creating revenue for Jim. But we're going to get all this fixed and we're opening a new office. We're going to shut this one down and we've got these other people. Well, and as it turns out, we're moving to Vegas."
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      "text": " And we have Hank and Andy Williams, not the singers, you know, who happen to be from the little town in Texas. I think it is in Odessa where the little girl Jessica was down in the welfare days. Right. Is it Midland or Odessa? I don't know. Whatever. Anyways, Hank and Andy are from there. And Hank had a crack problem and he's going to be the president of our new corporation. Sounds like a good choice."
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      "text": " The last time that they had seen him before, he had, you know, pissed through everything. They gave him $100, put him on a train to North Carolina. Excuse me. He goes into this dealership in the mountains up there and introduces them to subprime lending. They're selling 125 cars a month, just subprime. Right. You know, wait, here's Amir, can you fog it up? You're approved. Yeah."
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      "text": " and so he makes a good name for himself so that's how he gets voted to be the president of this corporation that was you know they told me all the good things he brought they left out the part about the crap they you know all that shit i didn't hear nothing about that until after i'm living in las vegas and so we go out and and uh there was seven of us gary uh tab and hank and andy jimmy borlaug jim borlaug was with"
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      "text": " Gary, when I first, you know, the two of them were together with a consulting company in Miami. I'll never forget Jim Borlaug, this really gruff older guy with a very extensive vocabulary. And I was pitching a place in Cocoa or Melbourne to do some consulting work for them. And he's like, fuck this paper. And he writes in this letter and like in the first two sentences,"
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      "text": " I did the, they got out there and got the office and everything set up. And I had some other gigs of mine that I still, you know, things that I had set up, you know, previously. And I picked up Stevie and Tampa in my car and we went up to Rochester. And I did something in Rochester and I think he, I think he trained a group in that area."
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      "text": " And then I had a refresher. I used to do some motivational speaking, too, and come back in like a refresher for the salespeople. Time Warner used me more than the car dealers did for that. But I went to Buffalo, I think it was just like a two day refresher thing or something. And the company actually paid. The people didn't have to pay. Oh, I did leave this part out. So not only so I charged them 500 bucks, but the deal was if you made it 90 days, the company would give you 500 back."
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      "text": " So that made it a little easier to get somebody that's unemployed looking for a job to give him 500 bucks, right? You know, and I mean, you know, I would try to be as firm as I possibly could be. I try to get everybody to pay me upfront, but I didn't care about the payments. You know what I mean? Because if they last even a month or two, and even if they're just getting their draw check, I'm going to get at least half my money. So if I get 250, 300, OK, you know, no big deal. So anyways,"
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      "text": " We, we, we, we leave Daytona or I leave Daytona, come to Tampa, get him. Then we drive to Rochester Buffalo and we, we had a great time on this road trip. Uh, I don't remember what the hell we, we did something in Columbus and we went to my buddies in Kansas city, Missouri. Uh, we spent three days in Denver. There used to be a bar in Tampa called the American cowboy. Back up a little bit to Tony and Janice."
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      "text": " I didn't even know what the fuck this stuff was. And I really wasn't into drugs, but they had the GHB. They coke, I like to coke, but they had the GHB, which I didn't really know what it was until later. Tony's like, you gotta try this stuff. And so he's got a Gatorade bottle. He goes, how much do you weigh? You know, it was like real fucking technical to know exactly. So he gives me this stuff. And Stevie and I would go to the American cowboy dressed like I am, you know, with a pair of fucking Nikes on and shorts. And, you know, you got the cowboys with their big belt buckles and the boots and all that."
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      "text": " and piss them off by dragging their women out. So anyways, the, the night they gave me the GHB, I'll never forget. I'm standing there and I communicate real well. I'm, I'm, I've got this girl talked in to give me a blow job in the parking lot. And I just fucking basically, I said, you know what? Never, nevermind. Uh, you know, it's just kind of looking at me. It wasn't just be on your way, whatever."
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      "text": " And I basically passed out standing up on a wall. I mean, that shit's bad stuff. That was the one and only time I ever touched it. They call it the date rape drug. I mean, and that's another thing I never understood. Why would you want to rape somebody? You know, there's so many women out there that'll give their ass away. Why are you going to rape them? You know? So Las Vegas, you're in Las Vegas at the car place. So yeah, so we finally get out there. Okay. And everything looks good. But I wasn't impressed with our office. But anyways, we"
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      "text": " We, uh, Gary says, don't worry, Jimmy, we got it. So by the time I actually move out there, we're on Polaris Avenue and a new building. That's beautiful. I got a beautiful Glaston office, a nice indoor atrium. Life is great. And, uh, I end up with, uh, I think about a month, six weeks at the extended stay and then got a brand new condo. Uh, it was 3,400, 3,400, 4,000 something. It was a good size."
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      "text": " Work and fireplace and so right after I get it Hank the crack addict him and I he's like two streets over and He says let's go to the furniture store Okay, so we go to the furniture store and got nothing but the best I mean these couches we got the same exact You know, I want that. Okay, just get to so everything we did. We just doubled and fill these apartments paintings plants everything"
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      "text": " I forget what we spent in the store, but it didn't matter because the company's paying for it. The company paid for the condo, the company's paying for the furniture. And I have to digress just a little bit back. So we finally formed Uniprime Capital Acceptance Corporation. And so you got Hank Williams is the, I call it Boguehouse, but you know, special finance subprime finance guy."
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      "text": " You know, you got Gary and Jim that are consultants for the whole dealership and which I knew, you know, I could run a car store myself, no problem. But, and my thing was, you know, the personnel, hiring salespeople and whatever. So, and then Andy is, so Andy's the CFO, Hank's the president, Gary's the vice president of operations, I think. And Borlaug, I can't remember what the fuck his title was. I was vice president of acquisitions."
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      "text": " and because we had decided listen we're making money for all these other people why don't we start buying our own and that actually came a little bit down the road anyways we get this corporation formed and we're going to take it public so we all start off with a million shares okay a million for you a million million million million"
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      "text": " I go out on the road and I went to Everett Chevrolet first, which was in Hickory and I walked in and I said, listen, this is what we can do for you. Now they heard about what Hank did for another company."
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      "text": " up there and so he's like two brothers and they were the second largest big truck store for Chevrolet in the whole country. Marvin and David, the dad passed away and you know two brothers can't run a place because you know Marvin would come and tell the service manager do things one way and 10 minutes later right you know the other brother said no. So anyways they get me there and they don't need just a subprime department they need help. They really needed a GM. So"
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      "text": " Here's the deal. If I remember, it was $36,000 to sign him up to set up a subprime department for him. I'm going to come in, I'm going to hire a manager, I'm going to get the people in place, I'm going to teach them how to do it. For that, you're going to pay me $36,000. Oh, by the way, you need the software, too. That's another $36,000. So I walk out the door with $72,000 in my pocket, go right down the street to Burns Chevrolet, which is in Gaffney, South Carolina, do the same thing."
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      "text": " Now I fly back to Vegas and Sam didn't go for the for the software so but I still you know I'm gone whatever four days I come back with a hundred grand right and so we're and we're getting a percentage of everything they do and whatnot and somehow through all this you know we had a meeting Gary says what we need to do is quit"
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      "text": " Helping these dealers and so for example that Chevy store when they realized I knew what I was doing They weren't just worried about the subprime department. They said can you help us out? You know, so I was basically running the store for him, you know And and so they're paying us for that and you know, we're getting a percentage of everything. So anyways Okay, and of course imagine this I I get two guys in two other stores that were Hank's buddies and"
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      "text": " I get a call from Sam Burns at Burns Chevrolet and he says, Jim, we got a problem. Where are you? I said, I'm in Hickory. You need to bring your ass down here now. What's up? Just now. I get down there. One of Sam's or Hank's buddies from Texas also was a crackhead. And I've got him in there running, you know, this finance department. He's supposed to be a professional. They give him a company car."
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      "text": " This fucking kid takes the company car. I find him in a crack house. Where's the vehicle? Well, I rented it to the dealer. You did what? How am I supposed to explain this to the owner of the dealership? I'm sorry, the guy that I sent to you. So I get the vehicle back and Hanks tells me, you can't fire him."
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      "text": " What the fuck you mean I can't fire him? You know, I couldn't believe it. The company paid to fly his dumb ass back to Texas. I didn't want to do anything for him. I was like, I'll leave him in a crack house, you know, but and he didn't do it to me. Once he did it to me twice, two different guys. So I guess that. Smoking crack and and and doing subprime went together somehow in their eyes. But anyways, so finally we get to the point where we're going to start buying stores."
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      "text": " and and actually I gotta digress again before we got to that okay I've got the stock and everything life is good companies paying all my bills blah blah blah blah I'm driving down the road in Las Vegas and all of a sudden I feel like I gotta throw up and I throw up and I throw up blood this isn't good and it happened like twice so I was a little bit nervous I go to the ER"
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      "text": " And they said, I think it's just some irritation in your throat. However, if it happens again, come back. It's OK. I got three blocks away and more blood than, you know, so back I go. So they put me in the hospital in Las Vegas. And this is on Friday afternoon. Friday evening, they come up and they've got this tape like almost like a police line, you know, they had done a TB test,"
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      "text": " But the dumbasses read it backwards, they said I had tuberculosis, but I didn't. The doctor comes in, he's like, those fucking idiots, that's, you know, they read it backwards. So they take the tape down, you don't have tuberculosis. That's the good news. The bad news is, come on with me. I go with him. Now, mind you, at this point, I'm probably 37, 8, someplace in there. He takes me to his office. Takes this x-ray and puts it up in the light. So you see these spots on your lungs?"
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      "start_time": 4776.766,
      "text": " I'm a cancer doctor. I'm about 95, maybe 98% sure that's lung cancer. And I want to prepare you, you know, best guess at this point in time. He said, you probably got maybe a year ago. Holy shit. Okay. Do what?"
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      "text": " So really, you know, changes your whole outlook on everything. Right. I gave and I didn't even mention Eric, but Eric was my co dealer out there. We got to be real good friends. I gave him the condo, the furniture, my clothes. I packed one bag with some clothes in it. And I mean, I had a closet full of, you know, suit. I mean, just you couldn't imagine the ship. And I'm thinking,"
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      "text": " I don't need it. I'm going to go back to Florida, where my parents are, kids around the East Coast, and spend whatever quality time I have left with them. So now I've given everything away in Daytona, and I would go to the beach every day and walk and think, what am I going to do? Am I going to try to go through chemo? All this shit's going through my mind."
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      "text": " Three and a half weeks from when he diagnosed. The phone rings. It's the doctor's office. My bad. Great news. I was wrong. It's granuloma from pneumonia you had before. Well, of course, I'm extremely happy because I'm going to live. Right. However, all my shit I've given away. Right. I don't have anything but some clothes that I've got, you know, money. That's it. That's all I've got."
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      "index": 178,
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      "text": " I can't call Eric and say, hey, buddy, listen, give me my shit back. Give me my shit back. So great news, Eric. Well, in the interim, as it turns out, the community wasn't real happy with him because, you know, as a drug dealer, and we'll get into that down the road, but as a drug dealer, the dumbest thing you can possibly do is conduct any business of any kind out of your house. Exactly. You don't shit where you eat, you know?"
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      "end_time": 4947.824,
      "index": 179,
      "start_time": 4920.316,
      "text": " Don't bring these degenerates around your home. I don't want you to know where I live. Right. Eric didn't care, you know, three o'clock in the morning. And this is a nice guarded gated community. The police for our development are, you know, you could see my front door from their gate. Right. And I said, what do you fuck? Well, I had some of them come to the Belkan. OK. And the back. Well, OK. So they had to look around the corner and they could see, you know, they're not stupid."
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      "text": " The two and a half years that I spent in Las Vegas, I said the only thing back to the women, the only thing that Charlie Sheen has on me is AIDS and he can have that. Because when I was living in Vegas, buddy, all I wanted was strippers and hookers"
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      "text": " When I was done with you, when they were going out the door, make sure, you know, look around, make sure that you have everything you came with, because you're not coming back. Right. This was a one shot deal. And and I'll tell you another quick story about the two. So this other guy that I had met at a club one night, we just got to be buddies. And, you know, he knew a couple of other coke dealers and this and that. And this motherfucker, we he comes to my house."
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      "text": " We go to the club and I'm not paying attention to him, but he opened the fucking lock on my sliding door on the balcony. The prick, we go to the club. He leaves, goes back to my house, steals my Coke and my Rolex. Nice guy. Never seen him. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of shit out there. But so anyways, here comes the scam part finally."
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      "text": " So I finally go back to work. At this point, we've already bought stores. Okay. I mean, my stock is still, you know, and Gary says, listen, we really need you because we just bought a Mazda Mitsubishi store in Myrtle Beach and it's all good old boys. We need, you know, some fresh young blood and this and that. We need you to go up, hire some people and get your ass back to work. And we're going to give you 15,000 more shares. All right."
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      "text": " be on my way. As luck would have it, I had, I don't know, it was probably a six, eight-year-old Camaro that I wasn't in town. I don't remember how it happened, but it was in my dad's name. It wasn't in my name, and that plays into the story in just a little bit. So I had the Camaro. I get it up there. We were living in a beautiful place on a golf course, and you ever heard of Larry Bird?"
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      "text": " it was his favorite golf course he used to be in my backyard all the time you know playing golf so it was a great place and then i moved from there to a beach house i was five off the ocean in myrtle i love myrtle beach and you know i started going back out to the office in vegas some too but most of the time i'm spending at this store because we had just bought it"
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      "text": " And then we had a store in Pennsylvania and we were doing something in Eugene, Oregon. I was talking to a guy in St. Croix that we're going to buy a dealership when we got a house, boats and all kinds of shit. And it was like every brand of car under one roof. You know, it was like a huge automobile, but we were going to get the whole thing. So things are going good. Now our stock, you know, wasn't doing great, but it was doing okay."
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      "text": " And I don't remember the numbers, and I don't want to misquote and say, you know, it was this much when it was actually that much. As I remember it, we, they calibrated it, we were less than six months from going on that stack. Okay. So the original guys, okay. We're all, you know, on paper, we're, you know, we're going to be okay. We're never going to have to worry about money, you know, and"
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      "text": " Well, I come in to work one day and you know I had Lenny Stein, I'll tell you about him. Lenny was, actually he's a great guy, but he has a son Steve Stein. Steve and Brett Saxon wrote a couple of books. The second one was The Art of the Smooths."
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      "text": " And they have a guy you've probably heard of that co-authored it. His name starts with Donald, middle initial J, last name Trump. Lenny, when I'm in Vegas, calls me up, Jimmy, you got a tux? Nah, well, get on a good suit. I'm taking you someplace. I'll be there at 430, be dressed, ready to go. It's okay. Takes me to the Hawaiian Tropic International Model Competition. Downtown Julie Brown, Joe Pesci were the emcees."
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      "text": " I was seated behind downtown Julie Brown. As I remember, it was a 60 minute TV show, 48 TV, 12 commercial of the 48. Uh, Julie Brown was 33 and where I was seated, my face was in, you know, every time she was talking, you were seeing me too. So anyways, now we go to the after party and we're up there, you know, having a couple of drinks. I went into, I went in the men's room cause I wanted some Coke and met Pesci."
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      "text": " Hey Don, how you doing? Lenny, you remember me? You did the book. Lenny always wanted to be Italian, so he tried to talk like that."
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      "index": 192,
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      "text": " Trump gets up, shakes his hand, let me introduce you to my friend Jimmy Boomer. So we sat down, spent a few minutes with Trump, which I got to be honest with you, I'm sure that that night he was accused of some kind of misdoings. And the girl that was making the act, that was accusing him, I'd never seen her."
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      "text": " I saw him. We sat at his table for a while. We were a couple tables away. If he was doing something fucked up, I would have seen it. And he didn't. So when he ran for president, I thought, oh, how cool is that? In a million years, never dreamt he would get it. But then to be able to say that, hey, you know what? I got to interact with him on a personal level. Excuse me. That was in like 98."
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      "text": " I thought that was just the greatest thing in the world, you know, that I had met him and interacted and all that. And I got to say, you know, I think, you know, my opinion doesn't mean shit to most people, but he's a great guy. It really was. He didn't drink, you know, no alcohol. I guess he's never drank alcohol. I think a brother or somebody, somebody in the family had an alcohol problem. And I"
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      "text": " Had a problem with it, you know, he he's gotten older and I think the filter from his brain to his mouth It's just completely fucking dissolved, you know, right if it wasn't for that, you know I just I can't believe he's not so president but I'm not gonna get into a whole political thing. So through those guys You know, I did learn a little more about scamming Brett and Steve they they"
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      "text": " their thing was that the first book was how to meet hang out with the stars and they could tell you like let's say you ran into Tom Cruise it's who's you know one of my favorite actors he's dyslexic so if you spotted him at the airport and you walked up and you know and started a conversation about dyslexia chances are is going to talk to you right so that's what this whole book was about Steve and Brett ended up with their own TV show didn't last long with Fox called getting in and like the first one they show both of in their garage you know with the jeans and t-shirt in the morning"
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      "text": " And the bet was they couldn't get in and I'm not sure if it's the Academy Awards or what it is But anyways, remember the TV show Frasier? Yeah, it was the year Kelsey Grammer won actor of the year So the bet was not only do they have to get in but get their picture taken with with him Son of a bitch at the end of the night here. They are either side of Kelsey Grammer. Well, here's the picture The next bet was that they couldn't get into the Super Bowl One was the and I don't remember the opposing team But one was the water boy for the Cowboys and the other was for the opposing team water boy"
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      "end_time": 5472.858,
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      "text": " So these guys are just, and Steve now is an author, Brett's a movie producer, and actually Eric that you had. With the gold. Exactly. I'm trying to put him and Brett together right now. So anyways, back to Juniperine. Stock's doing well. Stock's doing well. It's growing. It's not, you know, and all of a sudden Lenny tells me, he goes, Jenny, you see what happened? What happened?"
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      "text": " Shit went up like six dollars overnight. I'm not well versed in the stock market. I really don't understand everything that's going on, but I know. For penny stock, that's insane. Right. And well, in my, you know, I'm not going to save your brain because I do consider myself relatively intelligent, but in my brain, I'm worth all of a sudden, overnight, six million, fifteen thousand."
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      "end_time": 5531.084,
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      "start_time": 5503.831,
      "text": " More dollars. Yeah, okay. That's how I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about the dollars and I Don't know it couldn't have been only a couple of days after that and I think and I could be wrong I think it went to like $17 which for a penny stock is retarded right and Of course at that point the SEC came in and and so here's what happened. What year was this that was? 99"
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      "text": " Evidently, now, I wasn't there for this, but I believe the guy's name was Al Flores, Alfred Flores. He got a hold of Gary Tab, which Gary, if you remember, was the Rodney Dangerfield guy. He got a hold of Gary, and Gary was a really sharp guy. I don't know how he pulled the wool over his eyes, and they didn't do any research or anything, but he convinces Gary that he had been in Portugal"
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      "text": " And he came up with a cure for AIDS. And not only did he have a cure, it was all natural. But guess what? Government was suppressing it. How did you know that? The fucking pharmaceutical industry, they don't want that. They don't want that. It's all natural, you can't get addicted to it, and it's going to cure AIDS. They're making tons of money. Pharmaceutical companies making tons of money on their own."
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      "text": " Right, their own research, their own product, their own medication. They don't have a cure. They don't want a cure. Right. They don't want a cure. We've got a cure. They make more money off of treating it than curing it. You're right. Sorry, that's the conspiracy theory argument. So now, I'm hearing this and I'm like, what? We're fucking cardios. What do we know about? Well, it's not that we, this guy, oh, he did all this research and blah, blah, blah."
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      "text": " And I kind of looked around and I thought, you know what? I need to get rid of some of this fucking stock because something bad's about to happen. Before I could make any move and get rid of one share even, I get a phone call. And Mr. Sturgis, my name is Jim Warner and I'm a United States Postal Inspector. In my infinite wisdom, I didn't know what a postal inspector was. I said, listen,"
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      "text": " I'm a busy guy. I'm getting this place going. Our postage meter works fine. I don't have no issues with a post office. Thanks. Keep doing a great job. Have a good day. Hang the phone up. A couple seconds later, you know, I'm getting paged on the intercom system for a phone call. I'm like, who the fuck is it? Oh, you know, so, you know, my calls are all screened. So it was just, so I started being a little rough again with him. I was like, listen, he's like, no, no, you listen."
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      "text": " I think you need to understand exactly what I am. And he says, uh, I need to see you. I'm down the street and he's like 10, 15 minutes away from the, not even from the, from the car dealership. And he's like, uh, I'm at this restaurant. Now you've got two choices. You've got whatever he gave me 15, 20 minutes. If you're going to come here and talk to me or I'm going to have four FBI agents come get you and it's not going to be pretty. Right."
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      "text": " Got my fucking attention. Right. You get arrested in the dealership or you can come, you'd be here in 20 minutes. Well, and listening to you, I realized, and of course, as we get further down to my other fuck up, you know, if normally if you make a mistake or have bad judgment or however you want to put it, you break the law, the cops come put handcuffs on you and you go to jail. Not with the feds. The feds come and tell you, Hey, you fucked up. We're going to come after you."
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      "text": " But we're going to let you think about it before we actually act. Well, most people will bury themselves in that period of time. Like they'll send you a target letter and listen to your phone calls, listen to your panicked phone calls from to all of your buddies saying, I can't believe it. I never should have done this. I never should have done that. Well, and I didn't, you know, I mentioned the pussy and all the partying and this and that. When I would get back to Vegas, I never thought about this, but they would go, I mean, I can't say that I'm not stupid. I did think about it, but"
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      "text": " You know Here's a check for 10 grand, but it's not all for you, right you cash the check Put three in your pocket. I bring seven back and we'll split it amongst you know, and I and I remember I asked Gary and Well, Andy left because he knew shit was gonna go bad. He was a CFO He wanted nothing, you know, but and he left before this whole thing with Flores He's you know what you guys you know, you're writing these fucking checks out to you know, I mean"
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      "text": " What's that $15,000 bonus for? And of course, guess what? It doesn't say Matt Cox. It doesn't say Colby. It says Jim Sturgis. That check's made out to me. So the guy says to me, he says, listen, you see this? Where's all this money? What do you mean? Where's the money? Well,"
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      "text": " Probably gone. What do you mean gone? You just, you know, a lot of fucking money here. And, uh, so I think the number they came up with originally was about 400 grand that they felt that I owed the federal government. And I said, no, that can't be right. You know, somebody had made a mistake here and it certainly can't be me. Right. Well, you've cashed $400,000 worth of checks that were written to you."
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      "text": " Based off of this that came directly out of this company. That's a fraud at this point. Well at this point now it is. Now it's a problem. Before now it's not a problem because and I didn't even tell you all you know and I knew things were a little sketchy when Gary calls his brother. I can't remember his name and he comes to Vegas and they tried to I want to say shield me but I think the better word probably be hide it from me because they knew I wasn't a dummy and you know I would question things."
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      "text": " But we ended up renting another office down the road. And guess what went on there? Harvey. Harvey came up from LA and Harvey's specialty was to run a boiler room. We had, you know, I don't even know, 30, 40, 50 guys, depending on what day at time you went in there on the phone. Hey, Mr. Cox."
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      "text": " This is so-and-so, and I've got a stock offer for you. Selling our stock. The whole wolf of Wall Street. And so, you know, we're selling stock, but there's so much going out, you know, I mean, I don't know how they truly even valued it. Meanwhile, that's how we're buying dealerships. OK, we come and say, well, yeah, well, what do you want for it? Oh, you want three million? Listen, I'm going to give you four. Matter of fact, let me make it four and a half. Right."
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      "text": " You know, I really like you, so we'll give you four and a half. But I'm not going to give you any cash. I'm just going to give you stock. And then the boiler room sells the stock? And the boiler room sells the stock. So, and or the dealers like, I felt bad for the guy up in Myrtle Beach. What the hell was his name? I think, I think Addie, I think Mike Addie was his name."
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      "text": " I think it was Addy Dodge. How is that? That's not illegal. It's illegal when it becomes a pump and dump scheme and you got that. And they came in and said, we have the cure for AIDS. Well, well, yeah. So that it was bad enough. They're doing the boiler room thing. And I know because they're probably saying it's worth more than it is. Right. I didn't know exactly what they were saying or what they were doing, but I knew that it really wasn't legal to do what they were doing. But they're getting away with it. They're writing me these big checks. All my bills are paid, you know,"
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      "text": " I don't have to worry about money. I mean, I don't have to pay any bills, nothing. Right. You know, and I'm getting all these bonuses, plus I'm getting a weekly paycheck. Um, which at that time, right before everything came to an end, it was stupid money, like 5,000 or something a week was my salary. So couldn't spend the money, couldn't spend it. Right. And, and, uh, so anyways, this postal inspector calls and he's the one"
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      "text": " that explains to me about the fraud. He said, what do you know about, you know, this, I never even heard the name until you just told me. And he goes, what do you know about the whole AIDS thing? And I said, I don't know nothing. I said, I know what Lenny told me, you know, something about we got a cure and you guys are suppressing it and you know, our stock went up and you know, and he's like, really? That's what you know. And I said, pretty much. And he goes, okay, well, now let's go back to this. What do you know about all this money? I said, well,"
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      "text": " I cashed some checks. I didn't think it was that much. And he goes, well, I'm pretty sure it is that much. You know, it's all in black and white. So how did you want to take care of this? And I said, well, what do you mean? How do I want to take care of it? You've got to pay this money back. And he said, just so you know, we've already seized everything, everything, you know, houses are gone, cars are gone. From you? Yeah, everything gone."
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      "text": " bank account froze. I had $300 in cash and I had back to the Camaro that I drove to Myrtle Beach. That's what I had left. They gave me, I think, I think I got an hour, maybe two hours to get out of the fucking house in Myrtle Beach. Take what you can get in that amount of time and whatever you don't take, forget about it because you're not getting anything else. You're done. So they, at the end of the day, he says to me,"
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      "text": " Let's talk about this. And I said, listen, Jim, there's really nothing to talk about. I really don't know much about that. He goes, well, much. He goes, wait a minute before it was anything. I said, OK, I don't know much of anything, you know, because I'm not going to put myself in a corner where I lied to him. Right."
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      "text": " And I said, the other thing I'm not going to do is I'm not going to rat out my buddies. You know, it's just not... Who got you into this position to begin with. Right. I'm pissed off at him, but I'm still not going to, you know, and he goes, well, what do you know that you could rat him out for? Well, again, I really don't know much. And so we went back and forth playing this little dance. And finally, he says to me, he goes, you know, it seems like you've been honest."
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      "text": " We're not going to charge you with anything out of this. And I'm thinking, well, what the fuck are you going to charge me with? You know, I didn't do anything. Right. You know, and he goes, well, you really did. You got securities fraud here. And he said, I said, but I didn't have anything to do with that decision. He goes, that's the reason that, you know, we're not. But we do want to talk about this money. So back and forth we went and I still insisted that I didn't owe no four hundred thousand dollars. Right. So at the end of the day,"
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      "text": " When everything's said and done with I get what I can in the Camaro 300 bucks. And again, I had just, I just fucking broken bread, but not broke bread, but you know, had, you know, uh, sat with our president, future president at the table, you know, uh, had money, you know, now I'm fucking broke. Right. 300 bucks. I got this car and you ease my $400,000 more dollars for me. None of this is good."
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      "text": " So I get back to Daytona and at the end of the day, Flores, he got a bunch of time in prison. They confiscated all our stuff and I don't know how they dispersed it back but obviously the people that had real money and they didn't look at me as real money because I had stock. I didn't have, you know what I mean, I didn't buy it."
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      "text": " I got shit. There was nothing to get. I mean, when they liquidated, you couldn't even begin to cover, you know what I mean, what people were paying for the stock, even when they were buying it as a penny stock. Honestly, to this day, I don't know exactly what they did do to Gary or Hank. I don't know. I never tried to contact him after that. I just want to get my life together and figure out what do I do. And so they let me slide."
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      "text": " You know and and I you know, I checked into it further and I just couldn't believe that somebody would be So ballsy and I guess I left this part out. So well, he was allegedly Doing this research in in Portugal or Spain It turns out that mr Flores was actually in prison in Denver for conspiracy to commit murder for financial gain You mean he didn't really he didn't he didn't really have the the cure for AIDS I don't even think I think I probably knew more about a cure for AIDS than he did"
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      "end_time": 6320.162,
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      "text": " I was just a complete scumbag. That's shocking. That is shocking. Yeah, you know, so I haven't always... Do you think that these idiots, your buddies, really believed that he had it, or do you think they knew? In my heart of hearts, I want to, I really want to believe that Gary really believed him, and Gary was not a dumb person, but you know, like I said, I can picture him with his polyester pants, pulling him up, you know, you know, this might work. This is something Chris Marrero would believe."
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      "text": " They found this rare plant in Brazil that you take and if you mash it up and put some sugar in it, mash it up and you crunch it into a pill, it will cure AIDS. It'll cure AIDS. Absolutely, Chris. That's the way it works. And they're suppressing it. The governor's not going to let you have it. Because like you said, how much money has big pharmaceutical companies given into"
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      "index": 230,
      "start_time": 6344.326,
      "text": " This senator, you know, the president... Well, in Moreiro's case, you would actually say that the gray aliens, the aliens were behind it. But I hear what you're saying. I've never seen any... I'll have to send you one of Chris's videos and you'll have a better understanding of what you're... The only time I've ever heard about aliens before, there was usually some kind of narcotics involved. Does this individual believe it would... These are extraterrestrial aliens that are really running the government."
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      "text": " But I I I'll send you the video. You'll get a kick out of it. Thank you. So you he believes everything. Sorry. It sounds like Joe Biden could be an alien. I mean, sounds like the Rodney Dangerfield guy. Right. He's he's he's scary. He's on that. He's on that believing pretty much for you to believe that that you got to be kind of gold. And like I said, in my heart of hearts, we were friends a long time. And I mean, you know, a little history with him, too, when"
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      "text": " When we got going in Vegas, and of course these fucking dummies, you know, just because people are buying stock and putting money, it doesn't mean you can blow it. Right. Because that money is not meant... Oh, so they're like, they're, what are they, they're co-mingling funds or they're just misappropriate? Matt, we had, he must have went someplace and did research ahead of time. We had the biggest boat yacht. Right. On Lake Mead. This fucking thing had, I forget, five or six bedrooms."
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      "text": " You know, three bathrooms, three floors. The top was a jacuzzi for like 50 people that they had taken off just to make it into a party. It was two foot longer than the biggest boat previous to when they bought it. And he was in the process of ordering a fucking helicopter. You know, so yeah. And that's why I assumed, you know, when they came in, you know, they came in there. I mean, I wasn't there, but they came in with, I saw pictures, hand trucks and they took"
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      "text": " You just turn the volume down."
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      "end_time": 6514.497,
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      "start_time": 6488.66,
      "text": " That should be it right here. Hold on you dirty bastard. Not call volume. Which volume do I want? Ring a notification? Yeah. That should do it. So sorry about that. So, you know, you gotta believe, I mean if they found all that money that was written to me, how much money did these knuckleheads take? Now, I don't know. They may have just paid themselves, you know, a handsome salary."
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      "end_time": 6544.906,
      "index": 236,
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      "text": " Yeah, but they were also getting cash from you. So they knew something. They knew, Hey, we need to put something aside in case this whole thing goes wrong. So they knew something was wrong. Right. And, and if the true number was 400, I probably got maybe 60 of it. Right. If I'm lucky, you know, because like I said, you know, uh, I can remember getting checks for 10, 15,000 and only keeping like two. Right. I don't really need the money, you know, and I'm thinking,"
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      "text": " Probably wrong, but you know We're you know, the Boswell had recently opened so they're down there betting on the horses on Saturday and you know doing a lot of shady shit prior to that Gary actually had owned a couple race horses and so he was and There's a real quick cute story about that. We were going to Escondido to get his furniture from Vegas And we stopped at Santa Anita because he had this hot tip"
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      "end_time": 6600.657,
      "index": 238,
      "start_time": 6576.032,
      "text": " Put 50 in, I'm putting 50 in, you go in and bet. It doesn't matter. It was either the sixth horse in the seventh race or the seventh horse in the sixth race. Whichever way I was supposed to do it, I did it backwards. And guess what? You lost all the money. No. It was a fucking long shot that went off at some stupid end of motherfucker one. The one that the hot tip didn't pay off. My fuck up actually paid. We actually made my"
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      "end_time": 6627.142,
      "index": 239,
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      "text": " He's pulling out, bitching at me. It must have been the seven horse in the six race because we're, you know, he's cussing the hell out of me. And I'm like, well, let's at least see, you know, maybe he's like this fucking, you know, is a nag, blah, blah, blah. And we're pulling out of the parking lot and he still got the thing on the radio. And all of a sudden this fucking horse that I bet on a sheer error comes in. No, we made like 1500 bucks, you know, off a hundred or no more than that. We made more than I don't remember what it was, but at Santa Anita, I'll never forget that."
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      "end_time": 6655.538,
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      "text": " Jimmy Borlaug and I we used to go to the real for the seafood buffet I guess they blew that place up now somebody told me which I find hard to believe they had the beautiful nightclub on the roof and back in 97 98 it was like 32 bucks for their buffet there you know everybody thinks you go to Vegas and everything's free or an extra free well if you're gambling enough yeah it is free"
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      "text": " And if you want to go off the strip and eat shit that, you know, I wouldn't feed my dog, you can get a $6 prime rib dinner, but you get, you know, something the size of a half dollar and you know, it's not quality meat, you know, you still pay for decent stuff. So anyways, I really don't know what happened to Gary or Hank or Jim. I have no idea. I never, so I come to Daytona. I'm dead nuts broke."
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      "text": " You know I go to my parents house and I'm thinking what the fuck am I gonna do if I take a job Just like what you were saying they want I Thought they told me 10% but I'm thinking it's more than that now I'm thinking now Maybe they told me 25 anything that I made they're gonna take a big chunk out of it until I get it paid So I'm still crying poverty. I listen I you know, I can't pay you people don't have anything"
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      "text": " and eventually I was able to make a deal and pay you know with an Atari way less and just make it go away after time because they figured out that I wasn't the one you know I had nothing to do with the AIDS bullshit right and that turned out to be one of the biggest scams at the infancy of the internet you know that was one of the that was like the premier scam when the internet first you know I mean if you remember 99 2000 that's when the internet was just"
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      "text": " How much money ultimately did that was that valued at? Like are they saying it was a four hundred million dollar scam was it a two million dollar scam? I can't tell you that exact number I'm not gonna sit here and lie if I don't know I'll just tell you I don't know. I don't remember all right I don't think I ever knew. Usually that's what they do is they'll say it's a hundred and fifty million dollar scam or you know"
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      "text": " Yeah, no, it was way more than that. But yeah, I don't know. Because you know, you had millions and millions of shares of stock. At one point, you know, I want to say the normal number, I think it was like 260 a share or something, you know, which I'm still good with. Okay, I got a million 15,000 shares."
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      "text": " I'm pretty much fucked. I come down with my tail between my legs and"
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      "text": " Stay at my parents and try to figure out what I'm going to do and believe it or not I took a job driving a taxi cash business you know government can't take nothing because they don't know I'm even working right and did real well at it you know in my personality I've always you know done the sales thing and that's what you're doing and Daytona is such a touristy area you know like spring break"
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      "text": " I had a 15-passenger van. I'd put 30 kids in that fucking thing. You take a dollar a block. So if they're in the 1,000 block, it's a dollar. The 2,000, they pay 2. 3,000, they pay 3. I've actually made stupid money. I honestly think, and I didn't keep perfect track, but I think I made around $100,000 after the first four years of doing it. I did it for like a year and a half, two years almost before I was able to make a deal with the government and get back in the world."
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      "text": " We open up a car dealership in Florida and Daytona and that was going okay. And then the fucking landlord comes and says, listen, I'm in the wedding business and he's coming down from his main office down to almost where I am and says, I want to use this for the wedding business. Your lease is up in, you know, three months. You got to go. Not going to renew it. So I ended up with a bunch of cars."
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      "text": " And I met another guy, Joe Grimaldi in Daytona, put cars up with him. Well, actually, I rented a spot just to store him. And he's like, what are you going to do with him? I said, well, we're going to sell him. But, you know, I, you know, it's like, oh, I got a car lot put up. So we ended up going partners. Wait until you hear this. We ended up going partners, but everything's in his name, which is OK."
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      "text": " I go back to the Bogue business, folks with bad credit business. And we had a company in Orlando called Lazer. And so let's say that you sold a car for 10 grand. They usually weren't 10 with that company. Let's say you sold one for 5,000. And the people put tax tag and title money down. So at the end of the day, they're financing a whole 5 grand."
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      "text": " I take the contract to Orlando, to Altamont Springs, and they give me $2,500. They give me half upfront, and then as the people pay, they pay me. And that's okay, you know, and the longer they pay, the higher my percentage is that I get every month. And that way you still have working capital. And so I ended up doing well with them. And then I got a company called Auto Use out of Massachusetts, and we had"
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      "text": " As I remember, we had almost a half a million dollars on the books with auto use. I think I had more with laser than I did auto use, but a lot of money coming, right around a million dollars more."
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      "text": " I guess it was on a Friday, I was writing myself a check or however the fuck we did it. Anyways, a check for a thousand bucks. And what I used to do is take a thousand a week. And then the beginning of the month, we get our checks in from, you know, and so whatever it was, we, you know, let's say the check is 50,000 just to make it easy. You had say 10,000 expenses, that leaves 40. 20 goes to Joe, 20 goes to Jim. Joe's part is,"
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      "text": " You know, it's in his name. I'm using his money and we're using my brains. And so that's how we're, we're coming up with a split. So I have all this backend money built up. We put in a check, uh, for 50 grand and my check's no fucking good at the bank. What the fuck? So I go to the bank and you know, the branch where, where he did everything. And I said, what's going on? Joe came in earlier and he,"
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      "text": " Took all the money out of that account and it's now in, you know, growing out of the enterprises account because he was a plumber too, you know, so, so that all went fucking south and we ended up part ways and one of my other friends, lifelong friend ended up in there. I think he ended up getting some of it. I don't know. I know there were checks coming in at 14, 15 grand a month, half of should have been mine from just one company and forget about the other company. He claims the other company didn't send him any money. Uh,"
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      "text": " Company claims they did I never got anything so I end up in New York I Went back up, you know where my parents moved back up upstate New York and you always end up back home they say When I went up It was a little girl named Savannah Savannah had a couple problems Imagine this here. We are with another female One was she liked to smoke crack and other than that she also liked to do heroin"
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      "text": " And she used to cry, I gotta stop, I'm gonna end up dead. And God rest her soul, she did. At 25 or 26 years old is fucking sad. I think that she got murdered. She was staying at one of her ex-boyfriend's houses who was a dealer. His new girlfriend is not happy. He's got one of his exes living in the house. So his current girlfriend starts giving her dope."
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      "text": " Well you don't have to be you know it's not a real far stretch I mean people told me that you know she was putting rat poison in the fucking heroin she was giving her and I guess after a couple days she started getting sick and after a couple days she was butt naked on a couch shitting herself and they finally called her mother and you know raised her to the hospital her mom got to spend the last hour of her life holding her hand before she died and then they let her stay with her for like another hour beyond that so"
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      "text": " Obviously prior to all that She had you know crying and crying cries. I gotta stop. I gotta stop. I gotta stop I said listen, are you really serious? Do you really want to stop and you're dating her at this point? No, no, she's just a friend. Okay friend and You know, I mean I was still doing a little bit of coke, but I'm ready to be done with it I'm you know, I don't so I said listen the only way you're gonna change things as you have to you know You have to change people places and things that's you know"
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      "text": " And I said, as long as you're living in Daytona right now, you're never going to stop. So I'm going back to New York. You don't know anybody up there. You've never been there. It's a small town. And actually, instead of Cooperstown, we're in Oneonta, which is a really small city. And I said, I'll take you up there. And now I did start Daytona when I take her up there. But before we went, I really wasn't. So we take her up there. How long do you think it took her to find a heroin dealer?"
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      "text": " I was dating a chick that smoked pot and we went to Atlanta and she didn't have anybody, a dealer, to sell her pot and she made an appointment at a hair salon, showed up at the hair salon, got her hair done and walked out with a bag of weed and"
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      "end_time": 7298.695,
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      "text": " That girl hooked her up with her dealer. So we were talking about within a day. Less than 24 hours. Same thing. Savannah had the heroin dealer. So I'm not happy. And I sent her back to Florida shortly thereafter. And she called back crying. So I bring her back up. And I promised this time it's going to be different. It wasn't. I mean, I knew better. But so now in the interim,"
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      "text": " Along comes this, she met this girl, Leah Desimini, beautiful Italian girl, dark hair with the prettiest blue eyes. I mean, a hard body. This girl, I mean, your dick would get hard just looking at her. She was like model type material. Right. And so they become friends. And Leah, I felt like she was kind of like flirtatious. And I'm thinking,"
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      "index": 265,
      "start_time": 7328.217,
      "text": " Fuck, I'm, you know, 30 years older than Savannah. I'm probably about 28 years older than Leah. You know, I mean, the fact that I'm hitting the young one is good, but I'm not, you know, this, this girl's out of my league. You know, I mean, she, you know, I'm old enough to be her father. She's dropped it. You know, she could have anybody she wants. Why the fuck was she? Well, it turns out that, you know, she found out that I get pain pills."
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      "text": " You know, but I mean legit not you know, not off the street. I mean I get to prescription and I got fucking ran over on my Harley that was like four years ago. I'll tell you that story too. But anyway So it was about dope with her too and it got to the point Savannah would move out that afternoon. Leah would move in then Leah would move out and"
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      "end_time": 7409.189,
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      "text": " And Savannah would move back in same day. I mean one would move out in the morning by afternoon And without me making a phone call anything was like I don't know it was almost like a sick game. They played or whatever but Savannah is up up there and She wants to go to New York City to visit her friend from Daytona. I said, okay this is how this started so I go to New York City So we go visit her friend Lynn and Lynn is an MMA fighter just just one tough chick"
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      "text": " But she likes heroin too. So here's my number one experience with Savannah and Lynn in New York. Lynn goes and gets her two bags of heroin and told her, don't do both. Just, you know, do half of one or, you know, if you really, you can do one, but it's really just fucking girl dumps two bags of heroin in her thing and does her thing. And next thing I know she's fucking blue, Matt. Right."
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      "end_time": 7465.367,
      "index": 269,
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      "text": " Essentially dead picking her up putting her in a shower and you know her friends freaking out I'm freaking out finally call 9-1-1 They take her to the hospital, you know, I don't know if they're in our candor or whatever, but she finally came out She's herself, you know, yeah, you're fucking cunt to the nurse and yeah, she had a month, you know mountain by one concealer so anyways Lynn over time Well, so while we're there Savannah says well instead of paying"
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      "end_time": 7496.152,
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      "text": " You know, 20, 25 a bag for that shit up there that's not as good. Why don't you buy a couple hundred dollars worth for me while we're in New York and look at the money you're saving. Okay. So, we get back up to Oneonta and she starts telling people about, you know, how good this shit is. And I guess she shares a little with this one, that one, now they want some. So, it doesn't take long. And here's a little heroin business."
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      "end_time": 7525.64,
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      "text": " And and I'm going well, let's see eight dollars a bag I pay I can get twelve but I gotta buy I think a hundred bags to get to eight dollar a bag deal which I I'm trying to remember all the terminology I think I think a bundle was eight bags of heroin and a bin was a hundred and I forget what a thousand was so I bought like a couple hundred bags, you know and"
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      "end_time": 7554.309,
      "index": 272,
      "start_time": 7525.981,
      "text": " So that would be what a hundred at eight. So it'd be eight hundred sixteen hundred bucks. Yeah. So I bought, I bought 200 bags and take them back to only onto, and let's say that I did this on a Sunday afternoon by like three o'clock Monday, there's none left. It's gone. And I got people calling wanting more. Right. And I'm thinking, this is getting too big, way too quick. So I,"
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      "text": " Trust this kid Danny Hunt, which was another mistake. And I said, here's the deal. You're living at your grandparents house. You're a fucking shit bum. You know, you have no money and you're a drug addict. Here's what I'll do for you. I'm going to send you out to make these deliveries. Don't bring anybody to this fucking house, but I'm going to let you stay at my house."
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      "end_time": 7606.749,
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      "text": " Make sure you have money in your pocket cigarettes food, you know, so you got a place to stay you got money in your pocket You got a car to drive, you know, you got everything right and you're happy because whenever you want a bag of dope here you go Here's the catch You ever get busted You don't fucking know my name. You don't know who I am, you know You found this shit on the side. I don't care what you tell them, but the last words out of your mouth better be my name No problem. It's okay"
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      "text": " So things are going good and and I've grown this shit from you know a couple hundred bags or 150 whatever a day to like a thousand you know I mean it was some stupid amount and I'm trying to remember the exact amount but I had actually weighed the shit out because if I got I knew if I got any more than that and got caught with it the charge was substantially worse you know it became you know it was a big step up"
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      "text": " So rather than take a chance on that charge, I would only get, I think it was 2,000 bags at a time. And I found this fake safe. It was an armor bottle. It was the coolest thing ever. The top had arm oil in it. You could spray it, screw it together. The label blocked the seam. Nobody could see it. I had glued some red pepper on the inside of the thing because I was told that that"
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      "text": " kept the dogs from sniffing it okay and evidently it worked because when you know it's of course you know that something bad is bound to happen but anyways uh this goes on for a while and all of a sudden i wonder where the fuck danny is he should have been back you know an hour ago call his phone no answer and it went to voicemail that's not good"
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      "text": " I think he left my house at 1.30 quarter to 2 in the morning. Like 6.30 he comes walking up. Where's my trailblazer? Cops got it. What'd they get you for? Well, I just had one little bag with a little resin left. I said, what about the dope? Oh, that was already gone. And he goes, well, wait a minute. No, he said there's still some in the trailblazer. He had to think for a minute."
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      "text": " He had a shaving cream can that was a fake safe too, full gate shaving cream can. That's what he had in him. So I said, what'd you tell the cops? I didn't tell them nothing. I didn't tell them nothing. And I said, so they let you go? You got no ticket. They arrested you. They took my vehicle. Why did they take my vehicle then? If they didn't arrest you, why? Well, I don't know."
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      "text": " I'm not sure, but they did. They told it. You would think the cops would have at least given him a reason. I mean, something to say instead of saying, oh, come up with something. He's a drug addict. Like you can't. Well, and then thankfully for me, this is in Delhi, New York. It's a real small town. And the cop that's investigating me, as it turns out, is basically a rookie. He doesn't have a fucking clue what he's doing. Everything he does turns out to be totally illegal."
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      "text": " But anyway, obviously, you know, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that he's talked. Right. So we go get my trailblazer and he's still telling me he's still doping it. We go get it and he comes flying out of the parking lot. I follow him up the street. He pulls over. Oh, they must have taken it out. Shaming can still there. You know, the fake safe still there. At that point, you know, now I was"
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      "text": " Pretty sure, now I'm positive, you know, he talked. There's no doubt. So now I have to separate myself from him without pissing him completely off because, you know, he's already talked, so it's only going to get worse. Kill him, dump him in the woods? No. No, but you're surprised you say that because... It went through your mind? No, no, you have no idea how close that actually came to happening. So as it turns out,"
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      "text": " I ended up or Lynn ends up dating this Mexican guy who was a really nice guy. And he's the one I'm getting the dough from as it turns out his brother is in the upper echelon of the Mexican mafia. Wait a second. A Mexican selling heroin is connected to the cartel. Stop it. Not true. So the brother says to me, I'll never forget."
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      "text": " He's standing and this is the good brother. Well, I mean, they're both good guys, but this is the brother that's well connected. He's standing next to the car and one of my, uh, I never drove any place. I had people driving me. So, uh, one of my addicts friends, whatever you want to call them, customers, uh, this kid used to operate a fucking excavator and he was going through 20 bags of heroin a day. I don't know how this fucking kid function, how he didn't kill somebody."
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      "text": " But anyway, he drove me down because he was finally starting to run low on money. I loved him because, you know, he's bringing me nothing but money, money, money. So anyways, he drives me down and I used to give him, I don't know, two or three bags to drive me to fucking New York City and back. I mean, it's a three hour ride each way. Plus, you know, you got a bunch of dope because if I go down, you're going with me. You know, you can count on that. And so anyways, one trip that we're down there before"
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      "text": " Danny had gotten in trouble."
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      "text": " I've never done anything even fucking remotely close to that, you know, and I'm like, no, he's all right, you know, and I mean, it was that serious. No, I'm stuttering. I don't know what the fuck. I mean, he's got no issues with me, but he knows this kid's a fucking rat. He knew it somehow. He knew. And so it turns out that he was right, you know, and I would never want to kill somebody, but I'd often thought, God, I wish I had just came around the corner a couple of minutes later because I think I think he would. I think he would have just done it."
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      "text": " You know, and of course I said, my infinite wisdom and smart ass in me, I said, well, why won't you at least get him out of the car? Why put fucking blood and broken glass in the car? Cause he's sitting in the back seat of the car. He wants to just go right through the back windows in the back of the head and be done with it. And, uh, you know, this guy's driving a brand new Hummer, you know, his house, they lived. Well, uh, the older brother, the one that was in the mafia."
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      "text": " his house I was never actually at, but the younger brother lived two blocks from John Gotti's house. I mean, the Knights and Queens, you know, and, and, you know, they weren't ultra-flaunt it, but, you know, one's driving a Hummer, the other one's driving, I think, a Beamer, you know, and, but they had other cars too. And so anyways,"
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      "text": " I'm going back and forth to New York and I've always got so I hire I replaced Danny with Roger and the deal I made with Danny was I said listen oh I left out a couple things about the fucking scumbag number one besides turning me in I didn't know this right away it took me a minute to figure it out he found my safe in the house cleaned that fucking thing out dope money everything stole televisions Xbox"
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      "end_time": 8093.422,
      "index": 291,
      "start_time": 8068.029,
      "text": " I forget everything he stole out of my house what he did a little bastard went down in the basement and you know They had the outside doors to get into the basement right and unlocked it You know, I'm not down there. I'm not gonna fucking check that a little bastard like your other buddy that unlocked the screen door Right that's a lot sliding glass door sliding glass door. Yeah. Yep. So so this little prick and and worse than that, you know, my dad is you know,"
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      "start_time": 8093.66,
      "text": " My dad's my dad. He's my best friend. I love him more than anything on the planet. And he goes, my dad always, my mom always carried or had a little like a vinyl lunch bag cooler type thing. She used to pack my dad a lunch every day. And except for Fridays, Fridays he would eat out. But during the week he preferred. So anyways, he took a thousand dollar deposit on a car and he stuck it in a little"
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      "end_time": 8146.408,
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      "text": " Pocket like on the front of this cooler fucking Danny even stole from my dad took a thousand dollars from him I mean I want to kill him for that a thousand dollar what cash. Oh, okay thousand cash. They had deposit on a car My dad was so mad and a little bastard went right through the office into the detail shop grabbed two of my big-screen TVs and went running out the door with them threw him in a car and took off You know, this was after I parted ways with him and even when we parted I was trying to be nice I said listen"
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      "index": 294,
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      "text": " I know you're a fucking rat. I know, you know, I said, let's, and I told him, I said, you know, you don't even realize, but you had a gun to the back of your fucking head. You didn't even know it. I saved your life, you little prick. And I said, I'm still going to give you dope every day, but you need not testify against me and you need to keep my name out of your mouth."
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      "text": " Oh, I promise, I promise. None of that was going to happen. You're delusional. Exactly. At that point, I'm thinking, well, what can I do? Right. So I hire his buddy, Roger, to take his place. And we're coming back from New York City. And I told Roger, I said, don't you ever tell him where we are. Don't you ever sell him dope. Nothing. Turns out Roger's on his phone texting him. Oh, well,"
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      "text": " We were here, we were there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's when we got popped. The police. I'm asleep. I'm in the back seat of the car, laying on the back seat. And I'll never forget this old man got the back door open and he's got a gun and the fucker shaking like this. We're Sturgis. We're Sturgis. Whoa. You know, I had my, I had a blanket. I mean, I'm like trying to get my hands out and I'm like, don't fucking shoot me, you dumb ass. I said, you know, what's going on? Now the cool thing is,"
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      "end_time": 8255.947,
      "index": 297,
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      "text": " If there is a cool thing. Who is the old man? Like a DEA agent or a cop? No. These are local Delhi cops. Okay. These idiots go from Delhi to a town called Shedankin. Now Shedankin is in Ulster County. Delhi is in Delaware County. They go to Shedankin. That's where they pull me over. The local judge wouldn't sign the warrant because he's a family friend and didn't believe that I would get involved with something. No way Jimmy's into that. No, no. I'm not signing a warrant. So they get a new judge."
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      "text": " in another town this kid just became a judge he was actually my elementary school principals kid and imagine this way back in fifth grade only time in school I fucked up I used to spend all day at the principal's office I come to school go to his office my desk was in his office for all the fifth grade I had a teacher missus house I couldn't stand every Friday he would go where my mom worked and have lunch and give a report on me anyway so his kids the one that signed the warrant but"
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      "text": " It was so generic, they could have came here and searched this house. So everything they found, they couldn't use. And all they found was the shit that I gave the two morons. They had, I think, 46 bags total. That was all they found. There was 2,000 bags in that fucking armor-all bottle in the back of the car. My father wanted to kill me when he found out. Police had the car for three days. My dad picked it up. Dope was still there."
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      "text": " Okay. I mean, I didn't tell him right for dad, by the way, make sure that there's still no, you know, yeah, you just picked the car up for me. And so, so mistake number one was the bad ones. They had, you know, again, a New York City phone book, you know, a heart stack full of shit, but they didn't have one clear picture showing me giving dope to somebody or me getting, you know, collecting money. They had nothing. All they had was pictures of, you know, different people coming and going or me meeting people."
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      "text": " or other people, mostly other people, meeting people, but they did, you know, they were focused on me. So anyways, they, they arrest us and they put us in a Delaware County jail. Well, if you arrest somebody in Ulster County, then you take them to Ulster County jail. You don't take them to Delaware. So they gave me a public defender and he comes in and he says, I'm assigned to your case, but it doesn't matter. I said, what the fuck you mean? It doesn't matter. You know, I'm in jail. I got a hundred thousand dollar bond. What do you mean? It matters to me."
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      "text": " And he goes, no, you don't understand. They got you in the wrong kind. They're going to have to let you go. So this is on, I don't know, I'm going to say like a Monday, whatever. No, excuse me, it was on Friday. On Monday morning, they round the three of us up and they had us in basically solitary confinement. I'm in a cell by myself, away from everybody. And they had three cells. One of us was in each cell."
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      "text": " I don't remember coming out of the cell. I fucking slept the whole time I was there. I basically don't remember. I remember giving the fucking guard at the front a hard time. He was a real fat douchebag. And I remember when I left there, I told him, I said, you better hope I never catch you on the road, you fat piece of shit, or on the street, you fat piece of shit. Are you threatening me? I said, no, it's a promise, whatever. I mean, I was a real dick to him, but he deserved it because he was an ass. So now,"
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      "text": " Re-arrest us and take us to Ulster County. When we get there, the judge is like, why is his bill so high? And these guys are the two guys that were with me. There's his 20, mine's a hundred. Well, they're cooperating. Right. Roger's trying to tell me he didn't cooperate. Meanwhile, you know, there's a fucking half wall. I can hear you, dumbass. Right. You know, and you know, he sang like a canary, but they wanted me, you know, they,"
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      "end_time": 8481.254,
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      "text": " and this is how stupid they were and i i did but i told the cop i said you know again this is just local cops i said i'm not cooperating in any way you can go fuck yourself i'm not giving you any names or anything he said we don't care we got and this was his words el chapo of the northeast and i'm like what you know i mean i was selling some dope but i wasn't you know nowhere's near and these fucking dummies never"
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      "text": " trying to go higher than me. And you know, thank God they didn't get the DEA involved because you know, they would have been, and I mean, I would have never gave them up, but I could, I could sit here right now and tell you exactly how dope gets from where it starts all the way to the New York city, you know, in a drug or the drug addict's hand. I mean, it's, it's not that complicated. A lot of it comes down to money."
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      "index": 307,
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      "text": " But, you know, thank God they never asked. The DEA never got involved in anything. So they take me to the county jail in Ulster County and a couple of weird things happened. I spent the first three days in medical there because I couldn't have my opioid. I mean, I'm on a heavy duty painkiller. Now I can't have it. Now I'm going through fucking withdrawals."
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      "text": " So they put me in the medical unit and for like three days and the guards were raising hell with us because New Year's Eve came and I'm leading the singing. We're singing. I'll be home for Christmas. I just don't know what year because the cops promised me and he said, this, I promise you, you're getting a minimum 10, but you're probably going to end up with more like 20, 25. I'm 57 years old. Okay. Right. At that time. Right. At that time. I'm thinking, you know, you might as well say that's a life sentence to me."
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      "end_time": 8596.817,
      "index": 309,
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      "text": " And you know, if you get 15, 20 years, you know, they're not going to take care of you in prison. So, so anyways, uh, I don't know why I was singing happy, but then they moved me up on a regular. I was like, I was telling you earlier, we were talking, uh, what they called the super max 2000. And, uh, I think the second day there, I suddenly got sick. I went back in my cell like lunchtime."
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      "index": 310,
      "start_time": 8597.108,
      "text": " And I don't, I kind of remember, but another guy came running in and he was running out and he's like, man, you got to do something. He's sick, sick. So he took me to the hospital. I guess I had some kind of cardiac thing. Um, I spent a week in the hospital and, uh, the guards were all cool. They, they cuff me. Like when the new guard was coming, as soon as a new guy come in, he takes the cuffs back off. So I was never cuffed except for one guard one night. And I had the nurses bringing me ice cream all night long."
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      "end_time": 8650.776,
      "index": 311,
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      "text": " Can I get another ice cream you know except again with the one guard you know you got your own TV it was great for a week I was there and a lot of things that I've heard on a lot of your things it's kind of weird because you know even though I was only there for a short amount of time it was like you know the black guys have their TV the white guys have their TV and"
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      "text": " There was a little bit of intermingling, but not much, you know, not what you would think in a county jail. And I remember, you know, the one black kid had a smart mouth and his, his people, you know, they blocked off one of the cells so that, you know, the CEO couldn't see and take them in and beat the living. I mean, this kid comes out with fucking blood running down. I mean, nobody says anything, you know, I mean, the CEO couldn't have missed it. But, you know, I guess that's, that's what they did. But I left out,"
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      "text": " a couple of things. I'm going to go back to the car wholesaling days, because that's important to this part. Back in the day, you could in Florida, you could write a draft. And what I mean by that is, let's say you went to a new car store. And like my god rest his soul, Danny used to buy everything out of a Cadillac store. And you bought $50,000 worth of cars, but they didn't have titles for them. You'd write, oh, great. You don't have to perfect."
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      "start_time": 8709.582,
      "text": " Here's a draft for 50,000. And what that meant was you didn't have to pay for these cars until the titles came in. Now when the title came in, they might say, oh, we only got two of them. So, you know, you got to make 34,000 or 13,000 or whatever. Good. So now you go back up, give them a check or we got it. We're going to put your draft in, but you had two or three days. So everybody's floating money. Right."
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      "end_time": 8761.101,
      "index": 315,
      "start_time": 8735.23,
      "text": " Now up north, with the amount of money I'm spending shipping cars down here, especially with Rich, I can remember Tuesday nights we had to have 200,000 to cover the fucking checks we wrote. Had to. Had to sell that much in cars. I think they call it kiting. And at some point along the way, a check for like 25 grand never went through. I ended up getting charged for that in Pennsylvania."
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      "end_time": 8790.213,
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      "text": " went on probation. That was, you know, way back in the day. And I thought I had paid everything off. And they kept saying, you got a hold. It was 30 fucking years ago. I never dreamt that it was son of a bitch. I'm happy because they take me to court by two co-defendants. They had to let them go because they only have 10 days to get you in front of a judge. They didn't take them because they couldn't take me because I was in the hospital. Right."
    },
    {
      "end_time": 8818.78,
      "index": 317,
      "start_time": 8791.015,
      "text": " So they kick them loose and they're like gonna do the same with him. They take me up and okay, you know, but you have a hold Hold so, you know all the guys in the block are laughing and I come back in the hold is for his fucking check from 30 years ago and Son of a bitch and Matt. This is the most incredible thing. So now They put me They alright everybody says they're not gonna come get you"
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      "end_time": 8846.254,
      "index": 318,
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      "text": " There's no fucking way in God's creation they're going to come right. People don't realize that that that if you have a you could have a warrant out of Florida and you could be in New York and if Florida says this is stupid like this is such a minor thing we're not going to spend the money to fly this guy out or to go pick him up and drive back. We're going to spend several thousand dollars to get him back on something that's going to be quashed and most likely because it's so old right. But guess what. Right."
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      "end_time": 8876.869,
      "index": 319,
      "start_time": 8847.005,
      "text": " They actually come and get you. Here's some bad luck. I mean, I've had a lot of good luck through this, but the bad luck is same fucking judge is still on the bench 30 years later. And he's like, oh, he's in jail in a neighboring state. We'll go get him. Right. And so they can hold you 10 days. If they don't come within 10 days, then they cut you loose. So I'm on day nine in the morning. Star, just pack it up like, you know, five o'clock in the morning. And they pick me up. We stopped going across Pennsylvania at McDonald's, get a Big Mac, French fries,"
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      "end_time": 8907.773,
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      "text": " Trying to eat that with fucking handcuffs on and a belt and all that, that was not fun. But I get about three quarters of the way through it. All of a sudden I start having chest pain. I'm thinking it's indigestion. Well, fuck no, it wasn't. I had some kind of cardiac event in the back of a cop car, which ended up working to my advantage. They took me to the hospital and then they transferred me from one hospital to the, to the Butler hospital, which is the town I was actually headed to, but that was where the bigger, how we were almost there to the bigger hospital. And I'm only there a short time."
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      "index": 321,
      "start_time": 8908.285,
      "text": " and the cop that brought me he comes in he goes that's your lucky day and he goes well kinda and i said what do you mean by kind he said well the bad part is you're here the good part is you're free and he takes the handcuffs off and i said what's up he's like and you know i figured it out in two seconds they don't want to be responsible for the medical bill right you know they're high fuck no he's not going to cost us money so call probation whenever you get out"
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      "text": " You know and and so I did and they made some stupid arrangement fifty dollars a month or something I give them to pay it off which will take a hundred years, but But yeah, so so so Danny Yeah, he broke in stole all that shit stole from my father and I said that you know, I shouldn't say it but I if I ever get a chance I I think that"
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      "end_time": 8978.746,
      "index": 323,
      "start_time": 8956.561,
      "text": " You know, a baseball bat could fall out of my hand and hit one of his knees or something. How long ago was this? Six years ago. Six years ago? Six, seven years. Six, seven. Yeah, I'm 63. So yeah, about six years ago. I haven't forgotten. I haven't forgotten, you know. You're holding resentment. Oh, you know. It's not good. You gotta let that go."
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      "text": " I want to sue them because everything they do and I'm thinking well Yeah, that'd be great, but you know what I Did it I can't say I didn't do it right the fact that they this isn't wrong for us, right? Well, it wasn't wrong for it was just the only illegal one right and so at the end of the day You know, I don't feel comfortable really going after them, you know and"
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      "text": " So believe it or not, that's what I ended up with out of that. So and I remember sitting at the cop station that night and the cops telling me they guaranteed me. I guarantee you, you know, first they started talking 25 years and then the older cop, he's like, well, if you get real, real lucky, you might get 10 or 15. Right. You know, so I ended up with none."
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      "text": " And what happened to the 2000 bags of heroin that your dad had in the back of the it got picked up when I got out and and you'd flush it down the toilet because you thought that I'm done with this. It's the right thing to do. Well, yeah, that's yeah, that's a good story. Yeah, we'll go with that. I was going to say I buried it in the backyard. Yeah, but I was going to I was scared the animals could get into it. I love animals. So it found a new home."
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      "text": " I'll just leave it that way if I knew my father could have killed me when he found out that you I could I said if the fucking dummies didn't find it in three days with the car and dogs you think they're gonna wait till my dad picks it up and then go well let's arrest this a you know at the time 79 year old man right there you know I can't believe you did that to me I said dad I love you I'm sorry but you know I I mean a lot of money I mean if somebody has to go would go down for this dad"
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      "text": " You're already 80. I mean, God, you know, and, and, you know, so poor Savannah ended up dead, you know, and, and, uh, Leah, I don't know what happened with her. She, uh, she was a real fruit cup. I, and I left this part out too, and the interim of going back and forth between the two of them, Leah marries this guy, tried to tell me that, you know, they were just, and I come to her house and I'm like,"
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      "text": " Oh, what's this? Briding room cups and what's you know, what's this? And what's that? You know, and meanwhile, she's giving me head and I'm finding, you know, she's like, oh, oh, my dad got married. And you kept the stuff. Well, yeah, he told me to hold on to it. I mean, stupid fucking, you know, so I knew and finally she admitted to her. So her husband, I felt bad for his poor guy."
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      "text": " You know, uh, not bad enough to get a blowjob from his wife. Well, you gotta have a, here's the, well, here's the worst part of everything I did with her. Imagine this. And I told the guy, I said, you know, I, I don't want you to ever end up with this bitch again. So I want to make sure you understand how dirty she did do you. And he's like, there's more. Well, yeah. Remember when you got married?"
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      "text": " Well, of course I remember. You know the honeymoon suite you had at the Hampton Hotel? Well, yeah. How'd you know we had a hotel suite at the Hampton?"
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      "text": " well you know i was there for a couple hours with her before you guys got married the night so this bitch is going to marry this guy and she's fucking with me you know two hours before they got married who was the guy no just some schmo from yeah his name is vinnie from from long island and that's where she was from she was from long island of vinnie from long island yeah can you imagine yeah it's crazy"
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      "text": " It's so unique probably people you probably just you might as well give me his full name you probably People know exactly Vinnie from Long Island. I know him. I yeah, right we had a guy In jail with me not when I was on the other side But he's in jail with me and they call them Nikki bats Now this is a white guy Nikki's probably 30 years old his story is that when he was a child"
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      "text": " His father molested him and his brother. The brother won't deny or confirm it. He won't go either way. Nicky claims that his father tried to molest his son. And here's where the bats part comes in. He took a fucking baseball bat and beat his father to death with a baseball bat. So he's in, needless to say, for murder. And when you meet Nicky, come in the block, hey, what are you in for?"
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      "text": " and they didn't have to ask me believe it or not these fucking schmucks had this when they it is kind of crazy because of the small town cops they they blew this way out of proportion like i said they acted like they some someplace they actually said they captured el chapo of the northeast right and but they yeah these fucking dummies uh had it in the new york post and some other papers so the guys when i hit subways actually knew who the fuck i was and"
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      "text": " And the guy's like, this makes no sense. There's just other drugs. And he said, this makes no sense. There was 46 fucking bags. How, you know, and I said, well, they, they missed some. And he said, well, they still might find it, you know, where's the cars? Well, they told it, you know, and, uh, they never did it. But, but anyway, uh, so, so Nikki ran the, I guess you would call it white guys TV."
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      "text": " And the motherfucker, all he wanted to watch was the old movies. And I can't remember, is it called AMC movies? You know, I think, you know, so the black guys either watched sports, which I liked for the most part, or they had to watch like fucking Oprah. All the brothers would be gathered around the TV. They'd be like huddled. And it was kind of weird and not weird. I guess that was how their their chain of command or whatever the"
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      "text": " They had two older guys and they controlled the TV. That was it. Whatever those guys wanted to watch, that's what all the black people were watching. Now, if you were white and wanted to watch the black TV, you could do it, but you couldn't do it at the TV. You know, you had to be a certain distance away. When we ate, everybody had, and I didn't know this, you know, everybody had an assigned place to eat. I get there, you know, it was this fucking slot, but you know,"
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      "text": " And I go, Oh, you can't sit there. Yeah. You gotta sit in your spot. So, you know, and, and the other thing that I learned very quickly, my, my neighbor, I wish I could remember his name and this doesn't make any sense to me, Matt, but here's a kid clean cut. And as a man, I'll even say, you know, good looking 30 something white kid."
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      "text": " You could tell he was, I think, Irish. You know, I forget his name, but he would legitimately believe he was Irish. Real clean cut, no tats, nothing. He'd already been to prison twice. And he was, what do you call it, smash and grab. And he would, he would hit like the convenience stores. He'd be in and out in less than two minutes. Used to dress like a ninja. He would all black and put black on his face, but he had the black clothes. When he got busted,"
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      "text": " The reason he was in with me, these fucking dummies, when they shut the trunk, part of their shirts or pants, you know, the black ninja shit was hanging out the trunk and it was flapping covering the tank. That's why they got pulled over. And of course they opened the trunk and here's a cigarette, you know, 40 cartons of cigarettes and they just had a robbery. Mysteriously, imagine this, there was 40 cartons of cigarettes sold and that's exactly how many they had. So, but here's this kid and I use, I'm allergic to milk."
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      "text": " not like a human being but you know what i mean the hamburgers were okay the the chicken wings were okay you know you felt more you could have a fucking soda instead of drinking the whatever it is kool-aid or whatever the shit is yeah that was just some nasty shit and and i say nasty shit but i remember after only being there a couple days finding an extra mug so i could get two cups so i had something to drink for you know later on or whatever um but"
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      "text": " And I don't know to this day. I don't know how they did it I mean I had a couple of stories told from people that the one guy said When you went to visitation So you're sitting there. I'm sitting here. Okay, and there was a table about this high You're allowed to shake hands and and like a hug at the end of the visit so my my one neighbor He said that his dad would bring him a weed and a lighter"
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      "text": " And when he hugged him, he would stick it down between his jumpsuit and his t-shirt. So he'd have his t-shirt, you know, and they didn't strip. So they have you drop your jumpsuit, you know, so this shit was, his t-shirt was tucked into his underwear. So that's right. So he put it in his t-shirt, excuse me, put it in his t-shirt. So that's how, that's how he claimed he got it in. But every fucking night you would go near the shower, which was right. Ironically behind where the CO sat."
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      "text": " You could smell weed and I'm like, how the fuck are they getting it in here? I mean, I really was curious how they were doing it. I mean, I wasn't going to might've been a, just a CEO bringing it in. You'd be shocked. I mean, you'd be shocked with the CEOs will bring in because really, yeah. The one CEO that we had was really cool. He's like, you know, uh, he thought that I was in there for the pills and I'm like, you know, he's because he knew I was sick, you know, dope sick and stuff. And I said, no, I said, I'm in here."
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      "text": " Oh my God, you get off the heroin. I said, I'm not on heroin. I'm on, you know, I'm on fucking Dilaudid's that's prescribed from a doctor. And I said, but I'm still the same shit. You know, it's, it's just like going through heroin withdrawals when you don't have them. Um, and to take you off cold turkey is nasty. I can tell you that was, that's why I ended up sleeping that time for the, whatever it was, two, three days at, at, at, uh, uh, Delaware County jail, you know? So,"
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      "text": " My karma did continue after that. The Mexican Mafia, they were thrilled to death. Somehow, I don't know, how did they get a police record? Because they knew"
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      "text": " that quote. I mean, not only did they know what I say, they knew exactly what I told the cops, you know, like, fuck you, I'm not giving nobody up. They knew that. Well, you can get the Freedom of Information Act or they can just have a lawyer request a copy of like, hey, you know, like what you say, well, the cops are going to write down what you say that they're going to write, write up a, um,"
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      "text": " An affidavit or something? No, it's just a police report. Like, you know, he stated this, he stated that, he stated this. Like, they'll have like a five page or 10 or 20 page where they've written it out unless they've... No shit. Yeah. I mean, that's typically what happens unless they've got a recording, in which case they could get a transcript. Well, because the older brother, you know, he got a hold of me shortly after I got out. Yeah, you need anything. It was just overly nice. And I was like, I'm good. You know, I'm good. And he's like,"
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      "text": " Well, you know, you're, I forget, stand up or say, and I, I was honest. I said, you know what? I like walking around breathing and he kind of snickered. And I said, you know, I know how that shit works. You know, I'm not a fool. Um, and I, I honestly think that they would, you know, I think that if you, those are the kind of people, if you didn't run your mouth, you wouldn't be walking around anymore. You know, that's, that's why when I got in there, I'm not going to say, oh yeah, well, yeah, I know how they did this and they did, you know, you know, you know, right."
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      "text": " I'm not giving up any of those secrets. You know, like I said, it all comes down to money. And so then imagine this. After all that, I get out. I'm in Butler, Pennsylvania. It's cold as fuck. All I had was a thin jacket. I had $125, $140 on account. They give you a credit card back with your money."
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      "text": " Not gate money. This was my money. I remember you saying, I didn't get no gate money. They didn't give it to me. It was my money, but it's on a card. And it worked just like a prepaid credit card thing. So I went and I found a little thrift store across the street and I got a South Pole. I get that and I got to wait for a fucking bus to get out of town. I take the bus from Butler to Pittsburgh, which is, I don't know, 45 minutes maybe away, if that."
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      "text": " I get to the bus station in Pittsburgh and I go outside because I want a cigarette. I hadn't had a cigarette, you know, and I was only locked up like three weeks, you know, total. And the only reason I didn't get out was because I knew I had to hold, you know, why pay a bond when I know that I'm just going to go here anyways. And you had the respiratory thing that you just got another hospital for. So obviously cigarette seems like a good idea. Well, of course it is. Yeah, of course. So I get to the bus station in Pittsburgh and I meet this girl, imagine that, and she's like,"
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      "text": " I forget what it was that she's seen, but somehow she knew that I had just gotten out of jail. And she said, I got something for you. And I'm thinking, oh boy, a blowjob. But that wasn't it. She had some weed and I've never been, you know, huge consumer of pot. But I went outside and the shit that these people have today is just incredible. I hit this thing like three times."
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      "text": " I get on a bus from Pittsburgh. I don't remember the ride to New York City. None of it. I was just fucking shot out. And I finally get back up. My parents are so mad and I didn't leave out a couple of things. My mom, Christmas day, crying, you're going to kill somebody son. You got to stop. And I said, I'm going to quit soon. I really had it in my head. I was going to quit on the first. And I'm not sure how I was going to enforce it, but I had somebody that wanted to buy the business."
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      "text": " but they didn't have cash. So they're gonna have to make payments. Right. So I set you up with all my people. I give you my connections to buy. I give you the customers to sell to, and I just want a couple of grand a week. Right. Now what would make you pay me or why I thought you would pay me? I don't know, but I really did have it in my head. I was going to quit on the first of the fucking year."
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      "text": " and i got popped on the 29th of december like two days and i you know i had somebody in place ready to take it over and everything now roger the guy that was the idiot that texted you know god rest his soul too i guess he's passed away too but he the thing that's the worst thing is to be a liar this fucker keeps trying to tell me he didn't run his mouth well like i said there's a half wall i can hear your dumb ass i can hear what you're telling me"
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      "text": " So after I get out, they'd already been out a week or two. And so I get back up to Oneonta. And son of a bitch, if I don't see him walking down the street and it was raining or whatever. Hey, hop in the truck, I'll give you a ride. So he gets in the truck, bang, I hit him and broke his fucking glasses, cut his eye and shit, opened the door, threw him out right on the fucking side of the street. That's what you get for being a rat motherfucker."
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      "text": " Yeah, could have gone wrong to you. They could have come and picked you up for that for that for assault charge. Yeah, no, not just that. But there's a federal charge. If you if you strike a few, if you actually physically harm someone that cooperated against you, you can get a federal charge and go to fucking prison. It's like a five year mandatory minimum or minimum."
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      "text": " just in dire hope that there's a statute of limitations on it because it's been pretty much everything's about a three-year statute of limitations yeah and we're at six seven years and he would have already gone straight to him if he was gonna do anything he would have gone straight to I had no idea that I mean I knew that I could catch a charge for it but I remember telling him when I you know three to five might be three but I mean I'm saying might be a three-year mandatory minimum"
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      "text": " And that's the federal feds get in charge or getting get involved. Yeah, I figured the worst case that you know state was going to come and say hey, you know, well, I mean the feds were going to be involved when your thing they would have come in from the as soon as the right off the rip as soon as the state thing fell apart usually usually something state falls apart and the state will go be like listen, we fucked up here was the problem boom boom boom and they'll go to the feds and say here's what we got the federal comment just indict you on that knowing that a federal judge isn't going to throw any of that out."
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      "text": " A federal judge will be like, oh, no, all of that's included. Oh, no, no. But yeah, that's state law. You're right. But we're the federal government. We're picking up this case. We're going to charge you, and we're going to go ahead and we'll try you. If you want to go to trial, we'll try you. But really, in federal court, all we need is these two guys to get on the stand and say they were buying the drugs from you, the drugs that they clearly found, and we'll see if a jury will fall for it. And the truth is, if you're just sitting at that table in a federal court,"
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      "text": " They already think you're guilty, let alone these two guys getting on the stand. And then they actually found heroin? Oh, so usually you can get a couple of guys that get on the stand and say, we were selling drugs. They didn't catch us with the drugs, but we were selling drugs. We've been indicted. But the guy we were buying from is this guy. They indict you and you can be sitting there going, I wasn't caught with drugs."
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      "text": " They weren't caught with drugs. Nobody was caught with drugs. And you're going to indict me on a drug charge. What they found was, I think it was Roger's jacket or something they found and these two dummies, it was shit that I had given them. You know what I mean? And I'm thinking, why, why did I give it to them? Why didn't I just give them a bag or two each, you know, so they could do it and you know, and then give them the rest when we got home. But it is what it is. You got lucky."
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      "text": " I got very lucky. I mean, not just once. Yeah, multiple times. What are you doing now? What are you doing now? Well, I have my buddy that owns a tow company. I help him. I'm still like a little kid. You know, I like playing with the trucks and stuff. I sell some cars for him and whatnot and going through a lot of hell. I've got some health issues. I need to get back up to New York to a specialist. My mother was diagnosed with cancer right before Christmas. Jesus."
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      "text": " And here's the bad luck thing. I go to New York. I had a GMC pickup truck. I tried. I used the auto train. The dog and I rode the train from Sanford to Lourford, where Lorton, Virginia, which is Washington, D.C., drove the rest of the way up like six hours. It was great. It was great. And it was cheap as hell. I mean, it usually isn't, but it was when we went anyways."
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      "text": " And we get up there and a buddy of mine has a couple cars he needs brought back to Florida. And I said, well, I bought a Cadillac. I'll take that back. And there's a pickup truck I'm going to buy. I'll buy the truck, bring back a two-car trailer, and I'll bring your cars back. OK, so we make a deal. I get back to Florida. I buy a truck on Friday from Fred. Buy the truck Friday."
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      "text": " get it registered on Saturday and everything. And we left, I'm going to guess Saturday night, Sunday morning. Monday afternoon at Fredericksburg, Virginia, we're going down a hill, a heel, a hill, right rear tire blows, trailer goes into a skid, ends up breaking the fucking trailer hitch. The trailer ends up underneath the truck, fucks the frame up, snaps the drive shaft, the back wheels of the truck around the front of the trailer. I mean, it was a mess."
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      "text": " Didn't hit anything else. Just, you know, my truck is now totaled. I've owned it two days. It's gone. Trailer's still okay. A couple little marks on it, but really no big deal. Fred's trailer that I borrowed. So now, instead of renting me a U-Haul pickup that I could have just used my slider thing, you know, what they call a Pinnel Hicks, but I had it. And now U-Haul actually rents. It used to be they had a fixed ball that was welded. Right. That's all you could haul is shit that, you know, they had their own size ball almost."
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      "text": " Tractor trailer, I think raised it a little bit and then there was bumps in it Well, anyways, the trailer ended up doing the same shit boom boom boom Ended up jackknifed truck back of the truck up on guardrails the trailer underneath the guardrails I had a brand new jack that was on the nose of the trailer that I ended up picking up two days later Down by the fucking water. I couldn't believe I found it"
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      "text": " And some body parts brand new parts I had bought that had ejected from the truck and trailer Now I've totaled a second truck out in nine days Now I get a brand new Ford diesel pickup in upstate New York, but I didn't buy it I rented it from Enterprise It's 600 miles on I go get the trailer for the third time and the tow company had fucked up one of the tires on it"
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      "text": " And I forget what else, but anyways, it was a real clusterfuck. They wouldn't let me take it because, oh, you got to take the truck and the trail at the same time. I said, I'm not taking the truck. It's totaled. You know, it's going to fucking Copart. They'll come get it. Well, it's a real douchebags. So I ended up having to spend a couple of nights down there. And of course, you know, in Newark, New Jersey, right across the river from New York City, rooms are dirt cheap there. You know, it was only like 200 a night to stay at a fucking Howard Johnson's."
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      "text": " Yeah, I wasn't happy. And so I finally ended up getting these cars and brought them back down here. I get back to Daytona and I'm supposed to take the truck back to New York. I turn a corner in Daytona. Every light on the dash comes on. The truck's got 3,600 miles on it. It fucking died. Done. A month later, I was still getting texts from the Ford store. They couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Their computer wouldn't match up to the truck computer."
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      "text": " Fortunately, the good thing is my mother is now cancer free. That's the good thing. The bad thing is I've got my sides like puffed up. I got a liver thing. I've got to get up to the doctors. And I mentioned a little bit about this, but in 19, August 23rd of 19, I'm riding back from our tow company to my house. I'm on my Harley. I'm sitting at a red light."
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      "text": " at Bellevue in Nova Road in Daytona. I'm in the middle lane in Nova Road. And this asshole Lyft driver rear ends me. Daytona Beach cop was sitting in the driveway of the 7-Eleven getting ready to pull out, watching the whole thing happen. He thought I was dead. He called in as a probable fatality. Figured the guy was doing at least 40. And he hit me, you know, fucking rear end you want a Harley, no helmet. It blew seven or eight discs in my neck."
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      "text": " Broke my left foot. I was in a boot on crutches for six months. And my right hip and fucked up my short term memory. I mean, my long term memory is fine. I can remember shit from when I was a kid, but sometimes you tell me something and 12 minutes from now, I can't remember it. I guess it bruised my brain. So now Florida law works this way. If you get hit by a Lyft driver,"
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      "text": " If they have a passenger in a car, you can get this much. If you're a passenger, you can get this much. In my case, the guy needed to be on the app. Well, when he gets out of the car, the first thing he tells the Daytona Beach cop, oh my God, I'm so sorry, I was looking at my phone to see if somebody needed a ride. And then Lyft came back and said, well, we don't think he was on the app, so we don't think we should have to pay."
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      "text": " So my attorneys said that July 17th we were supposed to go to court in just a couple weeks. Now they gave them another continuance and on the grounds that they wanted to depose the cop and the EMSP personnel and they also want me to go to their doctor. I said, wait a minute, they've had four fucking years to do this. Why are we waiting?"
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      "text": " And my lawyer went and argued, but the judge saw it lifts way, right? There's fucking lift corporates. I've told everybody boycott those bastards. Don't get a, you know, don't get a lift ride. That's crazy. I mean, uh, that's really put me in a bad spot. I lost that whole deal going up, you know, uh, with my mother and stuff was, was thousands. Literally it was, I forget. I think I quit counting at 12 grand that I was out on never, you know, never going to see that again. And, uh,"
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      "text": " It's been rough. And then I lost my home to the two hurricanes last year. Gone. I mean, there's... And I don't know if you realize it or not, but being that you've been in the mortgage business, I would think you would. And I don't know how long it was when you dealt with insurance here. But if you go buy homeowners insurance in Florida, it's so expensive now. If you have"
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      "text": " What do we figure? More than like 18 years to pay on your house, it's like paying a double mortgage. So if you go over 18 years, the insurance company is still ahead. If you go under 18 years, yeah, under 18 years and have a claim, then you might be okay. But in other words, it's like having a second mortgage. The insurance is so expensive. That's why a lot of people don't have it, especially living in Daytona. You know what I mean? You're close to the water."
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      "text": " and ridiculous. There was a lady from, I think, Naples. Her house, I think, was valued at, like, say 250. You know, it wasn't any million dollar home or something. And her insurance was $4,200 a month. I said, how the fuck does she afford that? That's ridiculous. You know, three, four years that she could pay for a house. Right."
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      "text": " And the lady's like, I don't know, but that's what she's paying. I mean, it makes no sense to me. And it's the same thing like back with my situation with Lyft. The guy only had a car because of Lyft. So I figured they're responsible anyways, because he had a Hertz rental car. Well, Hertz went out of business. So they already put 10,000 in."
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      "text": " State Farm put money in and I'm not sure how they're, you know, if that hurts his insurance company or his insurer, I don't, I'm not positive how that happened. Probably his insurer, well anyway. Yeah, so State Farm did put some money in, you know, so the lawyers collected some but all that he's collected is already gone, you know, for hospital bills and stuff and we went to mediation last August and that didn't pan out."
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      "text": " And I did leave the end of the whole thing when I got out in New York. Imagine this. I go in the car business with somebody else in New York. And I get another mogul under called Credit Acceptance Corporation and their deal used to be used to have to pay like ten or twenty thousand and you had to go to their school in Chicago and this and that. Well, they cut all that out, but you still have to have I forget the terminology they use, but you had to have pool."
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      "text": " You had to have the initial pool of 200 deals. And once you hit that 200 mark, you get a check for that. Then you start getting quarterly checks. It's okay. You get to 175 cars and it becomes tougher to get them to approve them. You know, they start getting a little, but we got to 178 cars or no excuse. I think about 187, 13 short and his wife, God rest her soul. She's passed to her and I had a,"
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      "text": " Disagreement I'll put it that way and we had a parting of ways and I came back to Florida under the assumption That I get paid my dad and him are still friends, too We still talk But he swears uphill and downhill and they got to the 200 CAC said oh you had too many deals that didn't pay so you don't get a check and"
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      "text": " Bullshit. When the guy was here to sell me on your deal, the smallest check anybody got was $16,000, $18,000. So again, I had another thing where I thought... Dumped a bunch of time and energy into something that just didn't pay off. Right. And I'm looking at it as retirement money. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's been rough. I mean, now I went from the proverbial"
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      "text": " Feast of Hammond, you know backwards and I'm not getting any fucking younger, you know, so yeah, it's it's tough that's And and I'm hoping that that lift, you know ends up having to pay out and that takes care of me because you know and now I'm renting not owning and and You know, I assumed that this was going to be done my lawyer swore uphill and downhill July That's it"
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      "text": " That's it. But I was going to put that matter of fact, one of my friends was like, oh, you need to put one of those, what do they call it? Go fund me things or something. I said, I can't beg people for fucking money. You know, people are going to go, you got money. We know you. What you do is all you know. But I said, you know, you start thinking about it. And I've been lucky that I didn't go to prison. But how much money that should have been mine isn't mine."
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      "text": " The drug money, I'm not going to say, you know, that's, most of that ended up going back out, you know, when girls fucking around, you know, stupid shit that I did. And, uh, you know, you, you get used to, and I didn't understand this until recently. You take, uh, let's say an NBA basketball player that makes, you know, not a, not a high end, but let's just say a lower end guy that's making four million a year."
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      "text": " And he plays for 10 years. He retires in two years. Half of those guys are broke. I don't understand, you know, because they came out of the hood and they didn't have shit. And then they end up, you know, they"
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      "text": " They make all that money, but they spend it faster than they make it. You think it's going to always come. When you make easy money, you spend it very quickly thinking, oh, I can always make more, but you had a couple of good runs. Doesn't mean it's going to last your whole lifetime. Doesn't mean your money is always going to come easy to you, which is kind of like"
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      "text": " Me and this whole thing is that, you know, I have these conversations with my wife. I'm like, yeah, listen, we do this and do this and do this. And, you know, it's like I'm willing to sacrifice. I'm willing to I'm willing to go."
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      "text": " You know, like when my lease is up here at some point, like I figure we'll sign on the lease, but at some point I said, the next thing we do when I get a probation is we got to find a find someplace and we got to, we got to buy someplace. And I'm like, and I don't give a shit if it's a fucking single wide trailer that's 1930 single wide trailer on a piece of land that I can slowly build on or slow. It has to be, it has to be a situation that I can get paid off by the time I'm 65 or 70, because the truth is I don't have any retirement. Like,"
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      "text": " I don't know what social, I'll probably get the minimum social security because I've always worked for myself, always paid taxes."
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      "text": " but paying or you did you were smart enough to do that well yeah i paid my like so if you oh but i've also almost always worked for myself right so it's not like i paid in a ton of money into social security or anything so it's not like i'm getting a big check like like you're going to get the maximum social security which is still nothing because social security is based on you becoming 65 or 67 years old and owning your own home right i don't own my own home so it's the american dream"
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      "text": " If you plugged into the American dream, but if you've been a derelict and a scumbag your whole life, like I have, and been in and out of prison, well, not in and out, in prison and back out, and not done the right thing with your money, then guess what? When you get to be 67 years old and go to retire, you're fucked. And nobody has any sympathy for you because they're like, you were a douchebag your whole life. Tough break. You had all the fun and this and that."
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      "text": " I kind of look at it that way, but by the same token, I've done a lot of good things for people too along the way. Listen, I look at it that way. I understand that's the society construct, but when you're the scumbag,"
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      "text": " Then you're like, hey, hey, hey, I get it and I hear you, but I have to figure out how to fix this for me. Like I got to figure out what to do correctly to fix this. Cause I understand. Yeah. Tough shit, but tough shit doesn't mean anything when you're the guy that has to try and figure out like how long can you work right now? I think I can work forever. No, no. When you're in your sixties and seventies and already things are slowing down. Things are hurting. Like, bro, I wake up, I take fucking three. I'd be pro friend."
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      "text": " Like, if I don't take them, I know it during the day. No shit. You know, I know when my back hurts and this hurts and your knee and your body aches and, you know, little things like you already start to know. My eyes, I have problems with my eyes. I have a, you know, I have a stigmatism and, you know, my eyes are, you know, not what's going on and, you know, I might forget full well. Like there's all kinds of shit that's going on. The memory is the worst. Like I said, well,"
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      "text": " At least I have an excuse. You know, I got a fucking bruise. You know, and I mean, I used to be as sharp as a tack. You tell me something I'm not going to forget. Right. Like the proverbial elephant. And now, like I said, I can remember shit from when I was a kid. Right. But something that maybe happened two days ago, I can't remember. I do that all the time. I'm having a conversation now. I'll ask my wife something twice and she'll go, I just told you this. And she'll look at me like you're not even paying attention. And I'm thinking,"
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      "text": " No, I was paying attention. I just don't remember what happened three minutes ago. I can't. Yeah. It's like, uh, what I want to say, you, you, people want to think that you're like zoned out or you're not listening. You're being a jerk or something. It's like, no, I'm really, I just, you know, I'm genuinely interested in the conversation. I just can't remember that your buddy's name, you know, you fucking said 70 names. I can't remember any of them."
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      "text": " So anyway, do you remember Rodney though? I remember Rodney Dangerfield, that guy. But you don't remember Gary Taff, but you remember Rodney Dangerfield. But I don't need to know Gary. And you know, I mean, I hope he's still around, but you got to remember at that time. So that's when we say 99. I think Gary was in his 60s at that time. So, you know,"
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      "text": " If you know hopefully still live but I mean he's got to be 85 maybe 90 you know I mean my dad's 84 just turned 84. I was gonna say so you know my story right like you know when I took off so I took off on the road with that chick Becky so Becky worked for a law firm in Las Vegas Rodney Dangerfield was that her the lawyer she worked for there"
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      "text": " Rodney Dangerfield was his lawyer. So he would call up, this was before he died obviously, he would call up and she said, he sounds just like that. He's like, hey, this is Rodney Dangerfield. I'm calling for Jimmy. And they'd be like, and she'd be like, okay, hold on. She said he was exactly like he. And I get no respect. Yeah, he was hilarious. The thing like, you know,"
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      "text": " I just always picture Gary, you know, because I remember Rodney Dangerfield doing it with those those freaking whatever you call it. Elastic. Those elastic. Yeah, you know. Yeah, 1970s latex. Like leisure pants. I always think it's kind of a leisure. There you go. Leisure. Yeah. Leisure suit, polyester, polyester, polyester stretch pants and and the fucking colors, dude. I, you know, I can remember like peach colored pants with, you know, a"
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      "text": " He was great in Caddyshack and old school. Back to school. He goes back to college. Right, right, right. That's why I was going to say back to school. He was phenomenal and that's just funny as hell. I said, I'm looking through, what do you call it, Brett's"
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      "text": " credits you know for the shit that he's done the producer that I know right and of course like I said him and him and Steve did a lot of shit you know that wasn't even up to the TV show getting in but they uh I went out we were talking on the phone today I said oh I was looking at your uh what how did I put it I think I used a function board like stats or something right and he goes what do you mean stats and yeah because I think that's what he'd say and I said okay not stats I said"
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      "text": " You know, the bullshit that they say about people on Google and he's like, Oh, what's in there now? And I said, well, you know, the guy that's, you know, claims that I, and I could be wrong about the numbers, but I know I'm going to be close to that. You were given 7 million for the movie project and you spent maybe two and the guy, you know, was trying to sue you to get money back. And he's like, fuck that guy. You know, it doesn't matter what it costs. You know, I told them how much it was costing him. It doesn't matter what it costs me. Right."
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      "text": " And I never thought about it that way, you know, and I mean, he was really quick to say, fuck him, you know, because and if you think about it, if you tell somebody, Matt, I'm going to make this movie for you, but I need seven million dollars."
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      "text": " If it only cost me a million to make it, well, oh well. Well, it's the same thing we say about your interest rate. I tell you, your interest rate is 12%, but your interest rate is really 7.1. It's lower. So I charge you 8, but I get yield spread on the back. Right. Well, that's the same thing with the F&I with the cars. Right. But you were okay with 8. Well, that's bullshit. You said 7.1, but you were okay with 8."
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      "text": " like if you were if eight was too high or you were not okay with eight you would have said fuck you you got to do better than that i'm not paying eight i can't my buddy jimmy can do better i can go to this other place or i'll call my bank you could have done all those things go i'm charging you eight why because i get yield spread between the 7.1 and the eight in new york"
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      "text": " and in the early 80s. So you could"
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      "text": " I think the max back then, believe it or not, was like 26%, 27%. It was fucking stupid. Yeah, people are complaining about mortgages now that they have a, it's 5%. 5%, what are you talking about? It used to be fucking 18%. In the 80s, the savings alone crisis, it was fucking 14, 15, 12%, you know. But you had somebody with good credit back then, if I remember right, like 18% was what they got. And, you know, I'd have to fight like hell to get one point on that."
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      "text": " Meanwhile, the guy that was happy I got him bought, because I did some F&I stuff too, the guy that you got bought and you got him bought at say 24%, which is ridiculous, but you hit him at 27 so you make that spread, they don't bitch because they're happy. It's just like going back to the bold business with the cars at the car dealership."
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      "text": " I used to tell people when they'd come in to buy a car, they'd say, what all do I need? Well, you do need some documentation. You got to have a water bill. I mean, there was a couple of things that you had to have. You had to prove that, you know, basically you existed. And, you know, but I used to tell them, you know, can they call and they say, can you really tell me what I really, really need to qualify? And I said, yeah, run in your bathroom. You got a mirror, right? Yeah. In the bathroom, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, run in there and breathe on it. Let me know if it fogs up."
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      "text": " Well, of course it's going to fall. OK, then, you know, I can get you done. That's and it wasn't illegal. I wasn't I wasn't doing anything wrong. You know, I mean, you're you're. Sometimes stretching things, but you're not I mean, I wasn't waiting shit out. Well, same thing when I used to say, you know, if you had a pulse, you're I was I was going to get you approved, right? Not that not the thing. I just got to walk it now. I'm going to forge a document. I'm going to make sure you get approved. Right, right. No, I get it."
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      "text": " The one thing that I didn't understand and I actually have watched it like four times that I wanted to ask you so just so it's clear in my head you got Social Security numbers from from kids that were under a year old no, I went to Social Security and Convince them to issue me Social Security numbers to children that didn't exist. Oh the kid didn't even exist didn't exist So I would go in I'd say"
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      "text": " Hey, my daughter, here's the birth certificate for my daughter. She's 11 months old. And here's her shot record because they need to make sure she still is alive. And then they would go on the computer and they'd go, hold on. They pull her name up and they go, oh, wow, you're right. A social security number has never been issued to this 11 month old, to this person with this date of birth."
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      "text": " and they go okay and we can tell she's alive even though you didn't bring the child in but if she's under 12 months old you don't have to where did you get the birth certificate i made the birth certificate i ordered the security paper you know the if you make a copy of it it says void if copied right so you you order the security paper i got a template from my well from a real birth certificate"
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      "text": " So I had the blank template. So you just run it through. You use the security paper to print out the blank certificate. You get a shot, a seal. I would get an embossed seal from the South Carolina Vital Statistics Department, whatever. I don't go to South Carolina, obviously. I go to another state. They don't know what the county certificate looks like. Right."
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      "text": " And then there was there always had like a red number at the bottom, right? You know, a red like, you know, 07705, you know, and it's always bleeds through, right? You have to print that out, you know, on that over a couple of times, it bleeds through."
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      "text": " and then you've got the seal and of course it's you know it's signed you fold it up a few times you go in there you go oh i've got this i've got this and they look at it and they go shot records you the same thing just forge them i just i hand forged those because that's just a piece of paper that's printed that the doctor signs well that was the same thing when they were raising hell about the the covid vaccine i had and i didn't realize that i could have done anything with i don't you know but i guess people were actually paying for"
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      "text": " those cards saying that you got your shot right anybody could fucking make those cards yeah you print them out and sign them like there's no database there's no database right i had a whole stack of them and i don't remember how the hell i ended up with them but well i had a whole stack of those i would go in they'd run the kid they look at the kid's number or at kin's information they check to make sure that your driver's license that you were who you said you were like they put your information in your social security number was issued and then they would issue the"
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      "text": " new social security number under you as the father had this child provide the documents has an 11 month old girl and keep in mind once I would start to go into the DMV and get drivers licenses and other people's names now they're not even being pulled under Matthew Cox they're being pulled under you know Scott Smith or John Thompson or Bill whatever so these homeless guys that I'm now impersonating have three kids four kids two kids"
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      "text": " Now, didn't you ever, I mean, what would happen if one of those homeless people, you took their IDs if they died? Yeah, I mean, that was always my concern was I was always trying to figure out how, what I did was I started melding. First of all, I did multiple things. One, I figured out how to just go in to an attorney, you pay him 1500 bucks, he'll change your name. So I've stolen your ID, I change your name. Under the new name, I would get a social security number issued to a child that doesn't exist."
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      "text": " And then I would use that social security number to get an ID in that new name. So really, I'm a completely different person now. And you're using all legit docs because the guy, the lawyer gave me the document showing that the name has been changed based on this birth certificate. So I can go into another state saying, hey, here's my original birth certificate, but I had my name changed. Here is my social security number."
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      "text": " issued under that name because I went to obviously I went to social security they changed the name on my social security number but really it's this 11 month old boy's name child that doesn't exist and they'd use that and they'd give me an ID so now I've got an ID and a name that is perfect doesn't exist I completely manufactured this ID and then would that"
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      "text": " I could open up credit cards, I could get a mortgage, I could open bank accounts, you could do anything. So that all started really just from that white out that day? Yeah all that progressively just got worse and worse and worse and I got more and more creative and kept getting away with things and became emboldened by it and kept just you know you just start thinking you're untouchable."
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      "text": " That's a fact. Well, you know, the backwood, the cops thing when I got popped, you know, I was like, they had warned me literally one of the deputies had gone to one of my friends and said, you need to tell him he needs to stop. He's being watched. Not once, a couple of times, you know, and you know, my mother and you know, and like a fucking dummy, you know, I thought, well, you know, I hear you."
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      "text": " It ain't going to happen to me. So, you know what? I mean, the upshot is, yeah, I did go sit for whatever, you know, I think it was less than 30 days. I mean, I don't I don't think two and a half, three weeks, maybe three and a half weeks, whatever it was. I know it was less than 30 days because I remember watching. I was just before the first of the year. I got arrested on the 29th of December and I was out for the Super Bowl."
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      "text": " which I believe is in January. I'm almost positive. I know I watched, excuse me, I think only one weekend, maybe two weekends of football playoffs. So it wasn't, you know, it was not a pleasant experience. Don't get me wrong. It's not like something I recommend for anybody. It wasn't enjoyment, but you do get institutionalized quick though. I mean, even in that short amount of time, I had gotten used to it. It was like,"
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      "text": " Okay, I got to get up a certain time. I go to bed a certain time, you know, whatever. I mean, the lights are going to go off. I can't turn them back on. You know, I've got to wait for these morons to turn them on and you had your little emergency buzzer. Something happened during like you buzz it, you know, having the cardiac issues. I did worry, you know, what the fuck if something happens, you're going to be dead. They're not going to take care of you. So what do you think of my whole story? It's good. I appreciate you coming by."
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      "text": " Is there anything else you want to go over or we're good you feel pretty good I Think I feel pretty good. All right. Yeah. No, I think I feel pretty good. Yeah other than other than you know, tell Everybody not to use that fucking lift company. Don't use don't use Don't use that company until they pay my ass. Yeah, you know they're that's Really got me fucking mad. I mean, you know Because I counted on I'll be honest with you. I counted. Okay"
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      "text": " December or December, July 17th, we go to court. They've got, I think it's seven business days to get money from them to my lawyer. Then my lawyer's got, I think it's 30 days because he plays games too. You know, and then my lawyer, I used to write hollies with him 30 years ago and it's actually his partner because he said, listen, I'm, I'm a defense lawyer. You know, he says, I can do it, but, but Mark, he's, you know, he does whatever you fucking call it. Uh, ambulance chase or whatever. But anyways,"
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      "text": " I said, okay, you know, so like I said, I'm using a friend and all that. But Mark told me, he said, I guarantee you July 17th is it. And I said, well, I hope that it's better than your other guarantees because I need neck surgery. They've gone back and forth about that. The doctor says, well, I'm not sure there's enough money at the lawyers already to be sure I get paid."
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      "text": " They're sending a bill for 125, 133, something like that. No, I take that back. It's just over 100. But guess what the real bill is? Like 32,000. So which is okay in a way because 66% of that 60,000 is mine. Right. You know, but"
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      "text": " If you gave him the fucking real amount, I could have this shit. And then again, now I don't know if I want it. I said I'd never let him cut my neck, but it gets mad. It gets so bad. Like driving over here, especially holding the steering wheel, my fingers will do this. My toes will curl up and shit. That's from the from the discs in my neck. And the I had to remind my lawyer of any, you know, I said, listen,"
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      "text": " You like that bitch when we went to mediation kept saying pre-existing I said this shit's not pre-existing right I said I had problems between my shoulder blades and problems my lower back, but my neck was fine I said there's a goddamn MRI to prove it. Really? How come we don't have it? I said you do have it. I Don't remember, you know, so I go and get him another one when I bring it to the office the girls Oh, we already have this I said what what the fuck I said, that's what I covered with him before So anyways, I said, I hope you do better with with this than you did that, you know, um"
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      "text": " It worries you because it's like, you know, it's my life. Yeah, you know, and I mean I fully expected Everybody has told me Except for my lawyer, but you know, most people are figuring that I'll end up with around 700,000, you know my share when it all the smoke and dust settles Which isn't really that much money anymore, you know, it really isn't I've got a I've been looking at some property I found"
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      "text": " What the hell, it was five acres. Imagine this for 15,000. No water, no electric, you know, just raw land. Yeah. And it's out in the country a little bit, but okay, I'm good with that. So we get there and I have a friend of mine, she wants some land too. And she's like, why don't we buy it together? We'll split. I said, okay. You know, and I said, she goes, you can't even have three acres. I'll just take two. I said, okay, that's fine. So we go and put the deposit and everything. And when we get out there, I put a deposit site on scene."
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      "text": " And we get out there and she says, it's a property straight ahead. I said, OK, so it's the trees in this field. Well, I think so. Well, then the neighbor comes out. She's like, no, no, that's not for sale. It's next door to me. So I go, holy fuck, this even better. There's water, there's electric. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. I said, get that fucking shit hammered through. She calls a realtor she's dealing with. Oh, that's not the property. I told you it's at the end. And she says, wait a minute. The neighbor says it can't be because she owns this and the people with the with the farm over here with the horses, cows, whatever the fuck they got."
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      "text": " They own, you know, this and this and she goes, well, no, there's a, there's a right away across there, but it's going to cost by the time we had gotten done some of this, uh, what do they call it? Uh, wetlands, uh, designated wetland. Anyway, bottom line, it would have cost us over a hundred grand just to put a road in to get to the property. Right. It's not worth it. You know, I mean, I can buy,"
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